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Anyone capable of discussing gas without politics? Anyone?

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FCollinsBuckeye;1169223; said:
I think Wyoming/N. Colorado has relatively cheap gas due to local production and local refining.
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if that were the case, Louisiana and especially Texas would constantly have the cheapest gas in the country (yes I know we're paying less on average than the midwest is).
 
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Bare with me

Friday night used to be a good night to take the Corvette for a spin down River Rd and back. Now I sit at home and think of ways to save gas and spend less. Try this logic on for size. My present vehicle is a bit of a gas hog and needs to be replaced.

1. First, assume the car is paid for and all you spend for it is gas.
2. The car/SUV/truck gets 14 mpg and a 20 gallon tank lasts a week
3. So that's 20 x $4.00 = $80/week or $320 per month.
4. Cost for leasing a new Nissan Sentra/Honda Civic/Toyota Corolla is $200/mo. ( I know the Toyota and Civic may be higher but close to the Nissan)
5. A Nissan Sentra gets 33 mpg. So 20 gallons x 33 = 660 miles range or about 3 x the range of the current gas guzzler.
6. So spending $320/month gets you 800 miles in the gas guzzler
7. Buying a new Nissan at 33 mpg requires ~$200/mo for the car and $100/mo for gas = $300 for car and gas per month.
8. That leaves $20 in your wallet.
9. Now you can keep that money, invest it in Exxon stock or whatever or give it to BP and have a little fun.
10. Take the virtual drive in the Corvette, rent a few movies, buy a few beers and pizzas - you could even go to a movie but driving there would cut into the windfall.

Note: if the gas guzzler isn't paid for yet, this plan becomes even more cost justified. Of course, a Nissan Sentra isn't a Mercury Mountaineer and some may want the luxury and comfort of a larger car. This is when we decide how much are we willing to pay for the comfort of a larger car or opt for the fuel efficient model and save hundreds per month.
 
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Best Buckeye;1169591; said:
So the real answer is to buy a scooter and find you an ugly woman who was rejected by the hog bikers to ride along as your cycle mama. :biggrin:
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I'd rather drive the gas guzzler than haul the ugly chick around on a scooter. I think bikes are cool, I love the speed, fuel economy and machinery. I hate two wheels, seems unsafe to be able to go 140 on two wheels especially with the rejected biker chick riding on the seat behind me. Unless she has a great rack ... :biggrin:

How about a motor cycle engine powered go cart? I mean a larger version with a body, frame and suspension. Let's go into production and start selling them here in T-Town. We can get the biker chicks to help with the sales.
 
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utgrad73;1169586; said:
Friday night used to be a good night to take the Corvette for a spin down River Rd and back. Now I sit at home and think of ways to save gas and spend less. Try this logic on for size. My present vehicle is a bit of a gas hog and needs to be replaced.

1. First, assume the car is paid for and all you spend for it is gas.
2. The car/SUV/truck gets 14 mpg and a 20 gallon tank lasts a week
3. So that's 20 x $4.00 = $80/week or $320 per month.
4. Cost for leasing a new Nissan Sentra/Honda Civic/Toyota Corolla is $200/mo. ( I know the Toyota and Civic may be higher but close to the Nissan)
5. A Nissan Sentra gets 33 mpg. So 20 gallons x 33 = 660 miles range or about 3 x the range of the current gas guzzler.
6. So spending $320/month gets you 800 miles in the gas guzzler
7. Buying a new Nissan at 33 mpg requires ~$200/mo for the car and $100/mo for gas = $300 for car and gas per month.
8. That leaves $20 in your wallet.
9. Now you can keep that money, invest it in Exxon stock or whatever or give it to BP and have a little fun.
10. Take the virtual drive in the Corvette, rent a few movies, buy a few beers and pizzas - you could even go to a movie but driving there would cut into the windfall.

Note: if the gas guzzler isn't paid for yet, this plan becomes even more cost justified. Of course, a Nissan Sentra isn't a Mercury Mountaineer and some may want the luxury and comfort of a larger car. This is when we decide how much are we willing to pay for the comfort of a larger car or opt for the fuel efficient model and save hundreds per month.
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I took the liberty of correcting some fuzzy math. 'Cause that's just the kind of guy I am. :p

1. First, assume the car is paid for and all you spend for it is gas.
2. The car/SUV/truck gets 14 mpg and a 20 gallon tank lasts a week - 280 miles/week driven
3. So that's 20 x $4.00 = $80/week or $320 per month.
4. Cost for leasing a new Nissan Sentra/Honda Civic/Toyota Corolla is $200/mo. ( I know the Toyota and Civic may be higher but close to the Nissan)
5. A Nissan Sentra gets 33 mpg. 280 miles/33 mpg = 8.48 gallons/week x 4 weeks x $4/gal = $135.68.
6. So spending $320/month gets you 1120 miles in the gas guzzler
7. Buying a new Nissan at 33 mpg requires ~$200/mo for the car and $136/mo for gas = $336 for car and gas per month.
8. That leaves ($16) in your wallet.
9. Now you can keep that money, invest it in Exxon stock or whatever or give it to BP and have a little fun.
10. Take the virtual drive in the Corvette, rent a few movies, buy a few beers and pizzas - you could even go to a movie but driving there would cut into the windfall.

Despite my minor corrections to the calculations, the overall point is good and solid one. :)
 
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Went through the Indiana Toll Road yesterday. Two Mobil stations at the oases had $4.39 for their lowest grade, and 3 BP stations had $4.09 for theirs. It's been that way for weeks, with Mobil 20 or 30 cents more per gallon on the same Interstate (80/90).
 
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I didn't do the math, but $320 per month in gas (getting 14 MPG) is cheaper than $336 per month ($200 lease payment + $135.68 gas), so your logic is skewed. :biggrin:

Plus, if you're spending $135.68 a month in gas, that works out to be 8.48 gallons per week, which is 279.84 miles per week (at 33 miles per gallon). 279.84 miles a week, over the course of a full year, comes out to 14,551.68 miles per year. Over the life of a three year lease, that's a total of 7,655 miles over your lease agreement (assuming you even get 12k miles/year). At 15 cents per mile, that means you would owe an additional $1148.25 when you turn in the vehicle. If yoiur lease is longer than three years, this gets even worse. I believe to get a lease payment that low, they only give you 10k miles/year, but I could be wrong. Either way, I'll just keep driving my Yukon...:biggrin: Besides, I get 16 MPG, not 14. And almost 20 on the highway.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1170660; said:
I didn't do the math, but $320 per month in gas (getting 14 MPG) is cheaper than $336 per month ($200 lease payment + $135.68 gas), so your logic is skewed. :biggrin:
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($16) ---Parenthesis = negative, jackass! :p

Plus, if you're spending $135.68 a month in gas, that works out to be 8.48 gallons per week, which is 279.84 miles per week (at 33 miles per gallon). 279.84 miles a week, over the course of a full year, comes out to 14,551.68 miles per year. Over the life of a three year lease, that's a total of 7,655 miles over your lease agreement (assuming you even get 12k miles/year). At 15 cents per mile, that means you would owe an additional $1148.25 when you turn in the vehicle. If yoiur lease is longer than three years, this gets even worse. I believe to get a lease payment that low, they only give you 10k miles/year, but I could be wrong. Either way, I'll just keep driving my Yukon...:biggrin: Besides, I get 16 MPG, not 14. And almost 20 on the highway.
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