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Alex Rodriguez tested positive for roids' in 2003

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BB73;1404497; said:
Yeah, he said "I took a banned substance", but then later acts like he didn't know what he took. If you don't know what you took, A-Rod, how do you know it was a banned substance? During the interview, Gammons should have probed more deeply about what substance A-Rod was admitting to taking.
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the second time watching, I realized Peter really let him off the hook.....why not ask if he ever injected himself?? When A-Rod said he didn't what he tested positive for, because everything was "loosey-goosey", Peter should have asked if he was using multiple steroids, and was he injecting all of them??

I'm sure it helps A-Rod big time that he did his first interview on the subject with Peter Gammons...I highly doubt any guys at ESPN rip A-Rod, since he came clean on their network..and by come clean, I mean admit to being naive and negligent.
 
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House rep Elijah Cummings (D-Md) now says that perhaps A-Rod should come testify before Congress,while he's in a "confessing" mode.

That's a bad idea. Congress should be working on other things right now besides another baseball PED circus.

A-Rod also talked about Selena Roberts (SI's senior writer), saying that she was illegally on his property and had been cited by the police. Roberts denied ever being on his property. But ESPN said they confirmed that she was cited by police for an incident at the guard shack outside his property. Supposedly she has a book coming out in May - I'll be sure NOT to read it.
 
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BB73;1404497; said:
Yeah, he said "I took a banned substance", but then later acts like he didn't know what he took. If you don't know what you took, A-Rod, how do you know it was a banned substance? During the interview, Gammons should have probed more deeply about what substance A-Rod was admitting to taking.
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Actually, A-Rod's story makes sense.

A) He knows whatever he took was banned, because he tested positive (I can only assume he was informed "You're positive" and not "You're positive for X")

B) In as much as the real illegality of steroids is in terms of possession (Some one feel free to check me on that, I have not scoped out the law specifically) it would be "wise" for a user to be "willfully blind" to whatever his trainer is giving him... 1 - he never possesses it... and 2 - plausible deniability....

Gammons himself says he felt A-Rod was being sincere and was truly emotional about all this... Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions about his "apology" of course, but in terms of damage control, it looks like A-Rod is playing the right cards.
 
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DaytonBuck;1404506; said:
Often times multimillionaires get divorced to date a gal 17 years their senior who also happens to be the biggest living icon for some this side Liza Minnelli
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Exactly. There is only one type of man who loves Madonna......
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1404531; said:
Actually, A-Rod's story makes sense.

A) He knows whatever he took was banned, because he tested positive (I can only assume he was informed "You're positive" and not "You're positive for X")

B) In as much as the real illegality of steroids is in terms of possession (Some one feel free to check me on that, I have not scoped out the law specifically) it would be "wise" for a user to be "willfully blind" to whatever his trainer is giving him... 1 - he never possesses it... and 2 - plausible deniability....

Gammons himself says he felt A-Rod was being sincere and was truly emotional about all this... Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions about his "apology" of course, but in terms of damage control, it looks like A-Rod is playing the right cards.
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BB73;1404508; said:
House rep Elijah Cummings (D-Md) now says that perhaps A-Rod should come testify before Congress,while he's in a "confessing" mode.

That's a bad idea. Congress should be working on other things right now besides another baseball PED circus.
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And with the feds after Bonds so much people wonder why A-Rod was so vague in his answers?

The best thing that can happen is the Feds/Congress give all baseball players immunity so these guys can speak freely about steroids. Because really that is what is stopping these guys from being 100% truthful. Does A-Rod know what steriods he took? Maybe or maybe not. But if I knew what I took I would rather use the 'Barry Bonds' defense of I trusted my trainers and took what they gave me.

But any player that talks about steriods draws a HUGE bullseye on them for the government to investigate him. And people wonder why he lied to 60 Minutes? Yeah, let me voluntarily tell the Feds to investigate me and put me through the hell Bonds is getting.


My opinion is simple... I don't really give a shit. I just find the hypocricy of the media. The big stars of baseball get named and they become horrible people. An NFL player gets the brush aside. No one even questions NBA players. Really... LeBron is just 'naturally' muscle toned and he never really worked out before??? Oh wait... NBA players need to be lean and flexible, they can't be taking steriods... :shake:

I just want this all over. I just want to talk about baseball. Can't I just be ignorant and just enjoy the sport I love so much? Why does the media have to shove this down our throat and not touch any other sport?
 
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It makes me wonder if Mickey Mantle ever took anything. At least we know that Babe Ruth was on hotdogs and beer but how about the Mick. I don't think Yogi was on anything but if he was one would never be able to tell from his physical appearance.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1404488; said:
Huh..... that's kinda exactly what A-Rod said. The decision to juice was "forced" on him.....

Anyway, I wasn't suggesting steroids were healthy.... I was suggesting you're not actually interested in the health of baseball players in the same way you're interested in competition (which was your other term).
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The decision of whether to use or fall behind was not forced on A-Rod. As he has stated many times, he didn't need 'roids to stay ahead of 99% of the players in the league. He stated he wanted to justify his obscene contract. He wasn't worried about competition. He was worried about himself.

The health and competition issues are inseperable. I would guess most players that chose not to use steroids either made that choice a) because they were afraid of the health consequences; b) because they believed it was unfair to other players; or c) both. Most likely both.
 
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OH10;1405042; said:
The health and competition issues are inseperable. I would guess most players that chose not to use steroids either made that choice a) because they were afraid of the health consequences; b) because they believed it was unfair to other players; or c) both. Most likely both.
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You bring up the health issue. But if I recall correctly... HGH actually is safe to use. Or at least none of the known consequences that most steriods have. So doesn't HGH kinda throw out your health issue?

Also I could have sworn the steriod that A-Rod was said to have used was one of the more expensive kind because it had minimal health side-affects.
 
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MaxBuck;1405044; said:
I still wonder about the ethics of using stolen, sealed court documents to support a witch hunt against an unpopular sports celebrity. The "journalists" involved should be prosecuted IMO.
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The journalists are just reporting, the person/people who leaked the information should be punished.
 
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Piney;1405076; said:
You bring up the health issue. But if I recall correctly... HGH actually is safe to use. Or at least none of the known consequences that most steriods have. So doesn't HGH kinda throw out your health issue?

Also I could have sworn the steriod that A-Rod was said to have used was one of the more expensive kind because it had minimal health side-affects.
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As I said before, I don't know anything about the health effects of either. But I certainly wouldn't use either drug because I "believe" they could have significant side effects. And I'm sure many other players reasonably feel this way as well.
 
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