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AFC Championship: Patriots at Colts(-2.5)

I'm not saying in this game...this game he has had some lucky breaks, His career has had some lucky breaks. but he has also done some good things on his own in his career. If you go by your logic then no qb can be good if they have anybody do anything around them
False. By everybody else's logic no QB is good because of what they have around them. "Brady is so good because he doesn't have what Montana had". That's such horse shit. Brady let's his D and STs win games, and then he gets all the credit. You can't give SB MVPs to defensive or special teams units, so they give it to the QB.

He's the NFL's version of Craig Krenzel. If he were treated that way I wouldn't hate him, even after the bullshit tuck rule. But to compare him to Joe Montana is a huge insult to Joe Montana.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;724667; said:
Because Manning has killed them before.

They went with a safe play because they have a solid FG kicker this year, instead of the "idiot kicker"...

If you aren't willing to put the ball in the hands of your highest paid and supposedly best player at that point in the game, then why do you have him?

If I were Peyton i would have wanted to have the chance to throw the ball there, just like MJ wanted the ball in his hands when the game was on the line....
 
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BuckeyeNation27;724671; said:
False. By everybody else's logic no QB is good because of what they have around them. "Brady is so good because he doesn't have what Montana had". That's such horse shit. Brady let's his D and STs win games, and then he gets all the credit. You can't give SB MVPs to defensive or special teams units, so they give it to the QB.

He's the NFL's version of Craig Krenzel. If he were treated that way I wouldn't hate him, even after the bullshit tuck rule. But to compare him to Joe Montana is a huge insult to Joe Montana.

Oh I agree with you that on that part. When they played the Panthers in the SB no way in help he should have gotten the mvp should have probally gone to vrabel.

No way do I think brady is the best qb ever, but he isn't david klingler either.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;724671; said:
False. By everybody else's logic no QB is good because of what they have around them. "Brady is so good because he doesn't have what Montana had". That's such horse shit. Brady let's his D and STs win games, and then he gets all the credit. You can't give SB MVPs to defensive or special teams units, so they give it to the QB.

He's the NFL's version of Craig Krenzel. If he were treated that way I wouldn't hate him, even after the bullshit tuck rule. But to compare him to Joe Montana is a huge insult to Joe Montana.
Seriously, did Brady steal your GF or something?:biggrin:

...please don't tell me you think Krenzel would have the same career if you plugged him into Brady's slot. I'm not trying to sway you into being some kinda Brady believer, but come on...
 
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buckeyebri;724679; said:
If you aren't willing to put the ball in the hands of your highest paid and supposedly best player at that point in the game, then why do you have him?

That's a good question....but it was the right call given the history....

If I were Peyton i would have wanted to have the chance to throw the ball there, just like MJ wanted the ball in his hands when the game was on the line....

I'm pretty sure Peyton Manning has nothing on Michael Jordan....
 
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buckeyebri;724679; said:
If you aren't willing to put the ball in the hands of your highest paid and supposedly best player at that point in the game, then why do you have him?

If I were Peyton i would have wanted to have the chance to throw the ball there, just like MJ wanted the ball in his hands when the game was on the line....

Game wasn't "on the line" yet they needed a fg to tie it up and then try to stop the pats and get the ball back.
 
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