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I would have to say Lloyd, Fulmer and Nueheisel. I like creative football so I like Leech and Spurrier. I also have a soft spot for South Carolina because my mother and sister both went there. My favorite Spurrier moment was when he was getting blown away in Monday night football and they had a lot of fun with his facial expressions.

Here is a link to the Spurrier lip dance....
http://www.maceagle.com/2002/Spurrier1.html


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cincibuck said:
I'm going off my own thread here, but why Coop?
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Probably does need its own thread but I'll take a stab at it here.

I don't know what happened with Coop at Michigan,..
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Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? The man was 2-10-1 and it took him 6 years to notch a win no matter what Gordon Gee tries to tell you. I'd love to hear anyone try and spin that to some level of acceptibility.

.....but I know that watched some very exciting OSU football while he was there.
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2 wins vs ND and the lone Rose Bowl appearance. Did you happen to catch any of his other bowl game masterpieces? How about the thrilling loss to Air Force or that Outback Bowl debacle to South Carolina? The 64 some odd point embarrassment at PSU in 94? Yeah, those were some exciting times indeed.

1. he brought a ton of talent to the school
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It's OSU, we'll always have talented players. Woody, Earl and JT have done the same thing without wasting the first 5 years of their tenure. They also had winning records vs scUM.

2. he brought us to the brink of three national championships
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And won exactly 0 of them. Again, this is OSU, a coaches legacy is based on bringing home the hardware not winning moral victories.

3. he kicked some major Notre Dame ass
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Yes he did, but its not hardley enough to balance out the scUM and Bowl game records.

4. there were a lot of John Cooper kids on the NC team
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Yep, makes you wonder why he couldn't win shit with them but JT could. Coaching ability maybe?

No, the best thing that came of the Cooper years was that they are quite mercifully over.
 
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Jaxbuck, That's a strong line of reasoning you put out and I don't necessarily disagree with your logic, but maybe you weren't in the stadium in 64 - 66 to see the planes trailing streamers calling for Woody's head... those weren't all good years and he had some pretty miserable bowl games also.

I don't think the "we're Ohio State and we're always gonna get talent" thought is valid. One of the big problems Earl had (and that Coop corrected) was that he could not get talent out of the Cincinnati area.

Cooper looks a lot different if we don't get jobbed in the 96 - 97 season. We had as much legitimacy as National Champs, especially after beating undefeated Arizona State.

I will say I'm happier with JT. The Citrus Bowl fiasco was shameful and drove home the point that Coop had either lost control, or no longer wished to exercised it.
 
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Pete Carroll -

Mostly because I despised him in the pros. But then in 2003, he was interviewed multiple times saying he was just grateful for the opportunity to undefeated and that they would like the National Championship, but it wouldn't matter. Then he started parading around like $2 floozy when some news jockey gives them the title and pretty much saying "we're national champs, so screw you!"
 
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Spurrier is just trying to pull press attention so that if he wins a couple of games unexpectedly this year he can improve his recruiting and make a good entry next year in the polls.

He and Phil are at the zero likeability scale as far as I'm concerned.
 
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I don't think the "we're Ohio State and we're always gonna get talent" thought is valid. One of the big problems Earl had (and that Coop corrected) was that he could not get talent out of the Cincinnati area.
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I agree that Earl wasn't quite the recruiter Coop was but that's my whole point. Byars, Spielman, Carter, Lachey, Pepper Johnson, John Frank... there was some major talent during the Bruce era and it wasn't because he was a great recruiter, OSU will always have great talent to some degree or another regardless of the coach.

Also, Coop gets a lot of credit for how he recruited OOS but I think that was out of neccesity due to how badly he alienated the Ohio HS coaches. I shudder to think how many kids out of the 2002 recruiting class we would have seen go to scUM if Coop were still here.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this any further but suffice it to say I have no use for Hot Tub Johnny or anything he did here.
 
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Any current or former HC at scUM.

Any current or former HC at Notre Lame.

Chuck "Man Boobs" Amato

Brian Billick

Mike Bellotti (wasn't he the dumb ass who interviewed at OSU and was somewhat clueless that OSU played scUM every year?)

And any coach who says "gosh darnit", "dang-namit", or "aw shucks"
 
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