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#3 Duke +5.5 at #2 tOSU (Tue Nov 29), tOSU 85, Duke 63

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bkochmc;2053319; said:
Yep. The 7 games in 13 days is more of an excuse than time zone differences but even that is a stretch since there were 5 days between their last game and OSU.
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Let's not forget that OSU could be playing the fatigue card too--they played Monday, Wednesday, and Friday last week.
 
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In previous seasons (Thad's entire tenure, really), I have been critical of the way OSU has dealt presses and zones. If an opponent presses you, you need to make them pay. They need to know that if they want to press, they are risking giving up an easy layup. Don't get me wrong, OSU has been blessed with some outstanding PGs that could single handedly neutralize the press. But that's all the buckeyes would do, neutralize the press. OSU rarely got easy buckets off of the press. The result? Teams were unafraid to press. Heck, it seemed like many teams pressed OSU just to try to mess with OSU's rhythm or tire our PGs a bit. Not too detrimental, but also not taking advantage of possible opportunities.

The buckeye's offense against the zone, however, was a little less ideal. To beat a zone you have 2 options. Shoot yourself out of it or move the ball quickly to try to get easy looks. Again, OSU has been blessed recently with one of the best 3 point shooters in CBB history. And OSU's zone breaking philosophy was to try use Diebs (and others) strengths to shoot their way out of the zone. But it also made the buckeyes zone offense very 1 dimensional. If OSU's 3 point shooting was off, the zone could really give them fits.

Against Duke...WOW. OSU continually made Duke pay for pressing and running zones. Craft broke the press, as normal. But instead of pulling up and starting the standard offense, OSU used the unsettled defense to their advantage, moved the ball, and got layups. Against the zone OSU rotated the ball extremely and put Sullinger in the spot to get easy dunks. The first time this happened, Ravenel was a little excited to get the ball down low and forced a shot a bit. Really didn't fault him here because he had a decent shot and that is a really hard pass to make. The same play was run a 2nd time, and Ravenel learned from his mistake. And he made a fantastic play to get the assist to Sully. It was a beautifully drawn up play executed to perfection.

Lost in the talk about how OSU shot lights out was how incredible the ball movement was. Teams that move the ball like that win games. And man, was it fun to watch. This team will be scary good by the end of the year.
 
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nice post, 713. i have more to type, but for now i'll just make one comment:

i understand pressing ohio state to decrease the effective shot clock. however, if you press craft with the intent to create turnovers or even to wear him down, then you're kind of an idiot.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;2053562; said:
i understand pressing ohio state to decrease the effective shot clock. however, if you press craft with the intent to create turnovers or even to wear him down, then you're kind of an idiot.
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I wonder why teams continue to do it. It has never worked.
 
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CentralMOBuck;2053016; said:
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Yertle;2053017; said:
That is an INCREDIBLE picture!!! Look at Matta's face! Up 20 points and has nothing else on his mind but just burying his opponent. What an intense bull dog. Absolutely LOVE IT!!!
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I remember that moment of the game. (I was at the game and had pretty much the same view as the photographer.) Coach Matta was trying to call a timeout and was yelling and screaming at Valentine to try to get him to acknowledge it. Valentine was off in his own world and never even heard Coach Matta. Coach Matta was livid. Another ref finally saw Coach Matta and gave him the TO.

Valentine is a real piece of work.
 
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JTravers;2053975; said:
I remember that moment of the game. (I was at the game and had pretty much the same view as the photographer.) Coach Matta was trying to call a timeout and was yelling and screaming at Valentine to try to get him to acknowledge it. Valentine was off in his own world and never even heard Coach Matta. Coach Matta was livid. Another ref finally saw Coach Matta and gave him the TO.

Valentine is a real piece of work.
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yeah, you can see some fans looking at valentine and making the timeout gesture.
 
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