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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

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billmac91 said:
I truly wonder how much of the decision not to punish Michigan could be tied to legal implications when it comes to sports wagering.

I’d imagine there were some class action lawsuits on deck, had the NCAA vacated wins and plainly stated the cheating altered outcomes of games and therefore impacted money placed on the games.

By taking the stance they did, I think the NCAA navigated really choppy waters, and bailed one of their “cash cows” out….$20-$25M is nothing compared to the damages they could’ve accrued in lawsuits and legal fees.
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uhm... what about the class action waiting on deck for the opposite... Vegas, amongst others probably lost a shitload based on the cheating.

ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm all in for a go fund me to finance Akron's lawsuit against the ncaa.
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Maybe go 90/10 towards a GoFund Me for the victims of Weiss and his schoolboy hacking to file civil suits against the university directly...
 
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"The Big Ten Conference has informed its member schools that they can choose not to play against the University of Michigan in the coming weeks due to the ongoing sign-stealing scandal, according to multiple reports. This decision comes after the NCAA found overwhelming evidence of an impermissible scouting scheme within the Michigan football program, leading to significant penalties. While the conference has not mandated a boycott, it has acknowledged the concerns of its members and allowed them the option to decline games against Michigan. " This was in 2023 after the sign stealing scheme came to light. Maybe all the B1G teams should just do this until some sensible penalty is in place.
 
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billmac91 said:
I truly wonder how much of the decision not to punish Michigan could be tied to legal implications when it comes to sports wagering.

I’d imagine there were some class action lawsuits on deck, had the NCAA vacated wins and plainly stated the cheating altered outcomes of games and therefore impacted money placed on the games.

By taking the stance they did, I think the NCAA navigated really choppy waters, and bailed one of their “cash cows” out….$20-$25M is nothing compared to the damages they could’ve accrued in lawsuits and legal fees.
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This might be the most reasonable explanation I’ve seen.
 
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billmac91 said:
I truly wonder how much of the decision not to punish Michigan could be tied to legal implications when it comes to sports wagering.

I’d imagine there were some class action lawsuits on deck, had the NCAA vacated wins and plainly stated the cheating altered outcomes of games and therefore impacted money placed on the games.

By taking the stance they did, I think the NCAA navigated really choppy waters, and bailed one of their “cash cows” out….$20-$25M is nothing compared to the damages they could’ve accrued in lawsuits and legal fees.
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I think multiple things factored Into it. This being one. Another being the major forces in sports media, they didn't want to be forced to admit how much 3 complete seasons of a sport they covered were actually compromised. Though the findings are damning the punishment is weak enough to where they can just ignore it forever and never have to admit that.

The networks made this clear from the start when the only mentions came with the talking heads laughing it off and proclaiming this all as no big deal, then the lid was put on it and a bunch of only positive things about Michigan were ran often enough to make it obvious they were going out of their way to do it.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
This might be the most reasonable explanation I’ve seen.
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Class actions suits against UM, I presume? It's one school and only one of many cash cows. TV ratings are the real cash cow and if people get disgusted enough to stop watching games or watch far fewer games, although the vast majority won't I suppose, that seems like a much bigger hit. I will say that this explanation may have something to do with why the entire commentariat seems to be burying the actual findings and their very quotable language to just focus on the penalties and take a "well, glad that's all behind us" attitude.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
I may be crucified for saying this, but I suspect Bo is too.
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Lol

When his players told him the team dr was fingering their assholes Bo told his boys to "toughen up". This is the Michigan way. Do whatever it takes, no matter the cost to your wallet, integrity, or your soul, to beat us while claiming all moral superiority. Fuck Michigan.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
This might be the most reasonable explanation I’ve seen.
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I don't know. That is a pretty compounded set of circumstances which would require a lot of credentialed people with licenses and status to move along within a conspiracy. Unlikely. Not saying that it could not happen, but it would be super crazy and put many many people within the fire who could have potential civil and criminal penalties.

In my opinion, either the COI was plain unmoved by enforcements arguments, or the NCAA nudged for a punishment, but to not go all the way for various slightly corrupt reasons, but not illegal reasons.
 
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I suspect I won't be posting much anymore as this has always been a CFB-centric place and I just can't with the sport anymore. I've had one foot out the door for a couple of years now as my consumption of CFB content has dwindled to a couple tOSU games a year by last season. I honestly can't take the sport seriously anymore.

I've been here for two decades so I didn't want to be one of those guys that just went radio silent. I'll probably pop by once in a while. This place has always been a fun escape.

Be well, eFriends.
 
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NFBuck said:
I suspect I won't be posting much anymore as this has always been a CFB-centric place and I just can't with the sport anymore. I've had one foot out the door for a couple of years now as my consumption of CFB content has dwindled to a couple tOSU games a year by last season. I honestly can't take the sport seriously anymore.

I've been here for two decades so I didn't want to be one of those guys that just went radio silent. I'll probably pop by once in a while. This place has always been a fun escape.

Be well, eFriends.
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Hope to see you here August 30th my fellow Buckeye!
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
I think multiple things factored Into it. This being one. Another being the major forces in sports media, they didn't want to be forced to admit how much 3 complete seasons of a sport they covered were actually compromised. Though the findings are damning the punishment is weak enough to where they can just ignore it forever and never have to admit that.

The networks made this clear from the start when the only mentions came with the talking heads laughing it off and proclaiming this all as no big deal, then the lid was put on it and a bunch of only positive things about Michigan were ran often enough to make it obvious they were going out of their way to do it.
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It's the same thing as the Pats with Spy gate. The extent of their cheating will never be fully known to the public because it's about protecting the "integrity" of the brand.
 
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