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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

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jarv said:
I think ESPN and Fox will both go with the latter. They have massive financial interests in college football. And if the NCAA didn't exist, it would make their job easier. Especially if the SEC and Big Ten left the NCAA behind. ESPN and Fox would weasel their way into whatever entity would be created in it's wake.
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I'd think twice before having the media moguls be the arbiters of college football. The NCAA or something like it is essential because the colleges don't/won't/couldn't/can't rule themselves. Few things illustrate this better than the history of college sports prior to 1906 - the Ivy Leaguers and Michigan knew they'd created a monstor they couldn't control. Well, not so much Michigan. It took the Western Conference to break their determination to be players and referees.
 
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So, let me see if I understand the timeline.

tcun refuse to cooperate with the investigation. Various tcun coaches and administrators refuse to make themselves available, lie, stonewall and tell players not to cooperate. The university President supports them 100% in all of this (#BET).

They are presented with the NOA, which they go to the mattresses to prevent being released under the multiple FOI requests that were filed for its release.

They are offered a settlement, with a prescribed minimum set of penalties. They decline and take it to a COI, which rarely happens because almost all schools take the settlement.

The COI happened last Friday and Saturday. tcun were presented with all of the findings of the ncaa investigation and their team--up to and including the interim university President (the #BET guy packed up a U-Haul in the middle of the night)--were given a chance to say, "well...umm...actually you're wrong and this is what occurred." No details of the meetings have come out, which given the fact that tcun's NIL program is in a death spiral would almost certainly have happened had they shown a ray of light for tcun (same with the original NOA).

Now, we go to another silent period. COI works up what the penalties will be, the starting point of which would presumably be what they were offered after the NOA. NCAA won't leak. tcun won't leak unless it's sunshine.

Sometime in August, the NCAA will announce their findings and tcun's penalties.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
were given a chance to say, "well...umm...actually you're wrong and this is what occurred."
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That would make sense if you looked at the hearing as part of an ongoing trial. The trial’s been over for quite some time now. They’re guilty. This hearing was to make sure there weren’t any lingering questions or confusion over the details of their malfeasance before they pass sentence. The COI let’s those parties named in the NOA answer clarifying questions posed to them in person on their own behalf. Aren’t the NCAA just the swellest?

Everything else you posted seems bang on to me.
 
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And then they get a chance to appeal the penalties? While that would be 100% if the jock-sniffer were still there, now I put it at about 98% unless some big money donors like Ross say enough is enough. There's no way that they can drag this out past this year's post-season, is there?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
And then they get a chance to appeal the penalties? While that would be 100% if the jock-sniffer were still there, now I put it at about 98% unless some big money donors like Ross say enough is enough. There's no way that they can drag this out past this year's post-season, is there?
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I think an appeal would still be finished during the season...but I also think Spaghettios are a perfectly fine lunch for an adult, so
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
And then they get a chance to appeal the penalties? While that would be 100% if the jock-sniffer were still there, now I put it at about 98% unless some big money donors like Ross say enough is enough. There's no way that they can drag this out past this year's post-season, is there?
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if a postseason ban is coming they'd be smart to just take it this year and get it over with. They aren't sniffing the playoff, not that they are in the future either but if Underwood sticks around and it's only a 1 year ban they'd at least theoretically have a better chance in 2026. The longer they drag this mess out too the longer it will keep effecting them when it comes to recruiting as well;.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
if a postseason ban is coming they'd be smart to just take it this year and get it over with. They aren't sniffing the playoff, not that they are in the future either but if Underwood sticks around and it's only a 1 year ban they'd at least theoretically have a better chance in 2026. The longer they drag this mess out too the longer it will keep effecting them when it comes to recruiting as well;.
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Good news. Institutional Arrogance doesn't allow them to take the initial hit in order to preserve the future. They want the present AND the future.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Good news. Institutional Arrogance doesn't allow them to take the initial hit in order to preserve the future. They want the present AND the future.
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They feel entitled to the future as surely as they feel they already own the past.

You aren't doing their adherence to their core beliefs it's proper justice.
 
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