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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

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DaddyBigBucks said:
ummm ok

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The above is a result of a quick-and-dirty DSA of Rattler's numbers on the season.

It shows his PE vs each opponent and his quick-and-dirty Differential PE against each opponent.

Context is important: Of the 4 games where Rattler did better than the average performance against his opponent, 2 of those games occurred with the fewest and the 2nd fewest passing attempts of the season. His performance against KY coincided with the Cocks' run-heaviest gameplan of the year by far. The second fewest passing attempts came against Vandy, and that just happened to be his second best passing game of those that are not under suspicion.

Then we have the other two games above the mean.

Against Tennessee, SR had by far his best game of the year in spite of having his HIGHEST pass attempts on the season. He threw one fewer pass against Clemson, but still managed to throw two interceptions. Regardless, he still had a rare day above the mean.

The Clemson game is suspicious. Against all other teams with a pulse, Rattler was ass. And then he wasn't. In other games where he threw the ball that much, he was unwiped ass. And then he wasn't.
The Tennessee game is glaring. Outliers that big are rare. Outliers that big when the context suggests that particular data point should be an outlier in the other direction are damn near dispositive.
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I wasn't specifically asking for you personally to provide this data.....but I wasn't NOT specifically asking for it, either. :biggrin:
 
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I like how these three posts summarize things and bring us up-to-date:


J.B. 13 MINUTES AGO
The one piece of info from the documentary that CS didn’t lie about was the garage scene, where he had each signal and would practice them throughout the week… I fully believe he did this and it was basically his life to learn a new language in a week leading up to that opponent (that’s not super difficult when the language isn’t the English dictionary of all words)…
Its the means in which he got the information to create his signal dictionary…
What he’s saying is correct… it’s not a super difficult play call, though it’s still a bit more complicated than he put in his tweet, but the key piece of what he said is rather “elementary”
Like the documentary however, what he’s not saying is how the f did he know the signal for “Y” and the signal for “delay”… in order to get that, takes illegal scouting to determine what the signal is for “Y” which you would have to see ran 100s of times to figure out the consistent signal being called… and then you’d have to see 100s of plays where “delay” was also called to determine that was the delay signal. You have to do this for each any every formation, protection, route, etc for the entire playbook to create his signal dictionary. You 100% can not do this in real time, there simply isn’t enough plays or data… you 100% can not do this via the broadcast or all22…
He only confirms… again… that he knew every signal for the entire playbook and it can only be obtained if you have the signal playbook (I don’t believe he had) or if you illegally scout games with the intent of matching every sign to each play to create your “dictionary”


Brohio 12th Warrior 21 MINUTES AGO
Reminder. Stalions was not at CMU to steal MSUs signals. He already had them. He was primarily there to assist CMU. I told you that over a year ago because off-camera, Connor is a narcissist that couldn’t resist revealing the layers of his “genius plan” like a bumbling Bond villain to a Netflix production crew he barely knew. You’re seeing the fallout now.

Also, 22Buck is a legend and frankly, a friend. I can’t think of anyone that doesn’t like him, certainly not within the 11w community. I would caution anyone into getting into a “source-off” with him. He/we may not always get the craziest Thamel/Dellinger level bombshells but speaking in terms of solely who is being spoken to, I would put 22Buck up against anyone on the OSU beat and probably even nationally when it comes to the sign stealing scandal specifically.
+ 18 HS


Premierdrum 19 MINUTES AGO
Keeping in mind UM's strategy of defiance that early in the investigation...
Suppose - hypothetically, of course - the involved parties at both schools colluded to square their stories and hide (or even destroy) evidence.
NCAA enforcement already had more info than UM realized at the time, and likely would have flagged anything that didn't line up.
Then a certain Chippewa - perhaps not a coach - decides protecting the Harbaugh crime syndicate isn't worth flushing their career over.
We're days away from the world learning UM's punishment and there are still bodies being uncovered.
Wild.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
ummm ok

View attachment 71209

The above is a result of a quick-and-dirty DSA of Rattler's numbers on the season.

It shows his PE vs each opponent and his quick-and-dirty Differential PE against each opponent.

Context is important: Of the 4 games where Rattler did better than the average performance against his opponent, 2 of those games occurred with the fewest and the 2nd fewest passing attempts of the season. His performance against KY coincided with the Cocks' run-heaviest gameplan of the year by far. The second fewest passing attempts came against Vandy, and that just happened to be his second best passing game of those that are not under suspicion.

Then we have the other two games above the mean.

Against Tennessee, SR had by far his best game of the year in spite of having his HIGHEST pass attempts on the season. He threw one fewer pass against Clemson, but still managed to throw two interceptions. Regardless, he still had a rare day above the mean.

The Clemson game is suspicious. Against all other teams with a pulse, Rattler was ass. And then he wasn't. In other games where he threw the ball that much, he was unwiped ass. And then he wasn't.
The Tennessee game is glaring. Outliers that big are rare. Outliers that big when the context suggests that particular data point should be an outlier in the other direction are damn near dispositive.
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I see a statistical outlier like that and I shoot the son of a bitch. That's my policy
-Frank Drebin
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
A Tennessee fan named "Sports Talk J" (no relation to Uncle T) has a theory that in 2022 scUM stole Tennessee's signs and gave them to South Carolina so that South Carolina could beat Tennessee thereby knocking the Vols out of the playoff picture and increasing scUM's chances of getting in. As ESPN said in its postgame recap:



Here's one of Sports Talk J's earlier podcasts on the matter:
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If I remember correctly, there were posts on Volnation talking about someone connected with SCUM buying tickets for Tenn fans and paying them to record the Vols sideline........a year before the cheating scandal came to light. The Tenn/SC game was during the 2022 season, the year SCUM lost to TCU. It wasn't until the next year that anyone heard of Stalion.
 
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colobuck79 said:
I want to believe that its Mike Hart, but I just can't.
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The way he quietly disappeared from their program after 2023 was always weird to me. He left without a peep. For a "program legend" and a guy who was actually the Interim freaking HC for a game earlier that season is strange. I'm wondering if he had a crisis of conscience, left the program, and spilled his guts to the NCAA. At least that's what I'm hoping.
 
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Powair7s said:
Does Mike Hart get one "L" dropped from his thread title if it was him?
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Make no mistake, Bikey was a shit talker. Not a good one either, it came across whiny and arrogant. Which, given the scUM billing, is pretty typical.

But there is something the passage of time and circumstances has revealed - Mike had a reverence for The Game. Beating tOSU was one of the highest, if not the highest mantle he wanted to achieve. He said so himself - win a natty and beat The Buckeyes.




If Hart turned his Alma mater and CMU in because his character trumps his desire to cheat, then bravo. He would be the man who actually held up the Schembechler spirit that Harbaugh blatantly shits on yet so feverishly quotes and claims to represent.

If Hart at any point said to himself "I so desperately want to beat tOSU, but not like this, not at the price of my integrity" ... then good on him. We should be so lucky to have not an enemy, but a great and worthy opponent. One who is worthy of our remembrance and proper place in the history of The Rivalry, despite LLLL.



Or.... maybe he's just bitter he was treated 2nd class on the coaching staff and he narc'd on all of them because he wasn't as high up on the pecking order he wanted. Then that means hell hath no fury like a Bikey scorned.

Either way, he should receive thanks should scUM burn.
 
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I was reflecting back on the content of texts which Moore deleted in 2023, when Stallions impermissible advance scouting was revealed…
While Moore claims there was nothing which would expose him in the operation, there are several which ought to raise culpability after the newest revelations from the NCAA investigation.
"In a November 2022 text, Stalions suggests to Moore that Michigan should change its signals ahead of the Ohio State game. Moore responded that he'll 'think about it.' And Stalions responds that, 'Nebraska is screwed,' a reference to the fact he could easily decipher the Huskers' signals ahead of the Wolverines' game against them that very week. Michigan won that game, 34-3. But Moore told university officials that Nebraska used wristbands, so there were no signals to steal."
"Perhaps the most interesting text came in April 2023. Stalions sent a note to Moore that Central Michigan assistant coach Jake Kostner planned to visit the facility to meet with Moore. Central Michigan opened the 2023 season with Michigan State, which UM regularly played. Ironically enough, Stalions is believed to have attended that game — CMU vs. Michigan State — while in disguise. In fact, CMU fired Kostner last fall as the NCAA investigated the matter of Stalions' alleged appearance on the sideline of the game."
In August, Moore was brief in discussing the alleged deleted text messages in a press conference, stating ""I'll just say this: I look forward to them being released."
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NFBuck said:
The way he quietly disappeared from their program after 2023 was always weird to me. He left without a peep. For a "program legend" and a guy who was actually the Interim freaking HC for a game earlier that season is strange. I'm wondering if he had a crisis of conscience, left the program, and spilled his guts to the NCAA. At least that's what I'm hoping.
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Eh, I'd rather think of him pedaling on the sidelines, loud-mouthed, loser of The Game(s) he is, than someone possessed of at least one ounce 0f redemtitive quality. But then, I'm not Jesus.
 
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cincibuck said:
Eh, I'd rather think of him pedaling on the sidelines, loud-mouthed, loser of The Game(s) he is, than someone possessed of at least one ounce 0f redemtitive quality. But then, I'm not Jesus.
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I just think them finding out that a beloved former player that some of them thought could be their future HC was a Judas would be immeasurably hilarious.
 
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