2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[AKAK]

No. Why do you ask?

Pro tip. Always have a spiked collar on your gerbil, that way when in gets stuck in.... Cracks and crevices... As they tend to do...

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Just because if I'm not doing this, I have to get back to work......and because I like posting things that make Michigan's outlook BLEAK.......things I've gleaned from following the 11w threads the last few days since Ono's announced trip to gatorland:

Things that a school could do to be considered "aggravating factors" in the eyes of the NCAA. Aggravating factors in NCAA bylaws refer to circumstances that can increase the severity of penalties for NCAA violations. (1):

1. Multiple level 1 or 2 violations.
2. LOIC
3. Failing or refusing to take all appropriate steps to advance resolution of the matter, including steps that hinder or thwart the investigation.
4. Violations were premeditated, deliberate, or committed after substantial planning.
5. Persons of authority condoned, participated in, or willfully ignored the violations.
6. One or more violations caused ineligible competition.
7. A pattern of noncompliance.
8. Conduct intended to generate financial gain.
9. Intentional, willful, or blatant disregard for NCAA bylaws by a person with authority.
10. The school employs an athletic staff member who is subject to a show cause who then commits a level 1 or 2 offense.
11. Involvement by a representative of the team's athletic interests.
12. Conduct that inhibits the COI's ability.
13. Other

So.......1-5 for sure, 6 can be argued, 7, 8 can be argued, 9, 11, and 12. NOT 10......only because the MULTIPLE show causes that have and will probably continue to pop up from this were only handed down AFTER they were caught doing this latest scandal.

Also, Level 1 violations START with 1-2 year postseason bans, and need to be argued down from there. Every single level 1 violation that has ever gotten to the COI hearing stage has resulted in a 1 or 2 year post season ban (2). Every. Single. One. Michigan has 6 level 1 violations......with anywhere between 8 to 11 of the 12 aggravating factors added on to each of them.

And they think 2 randomly chosen games for one coach is going to be enough.


(1) - thegdouble and Rocket_Bucks85
(2) - DukeofWeimar

 

[Jagdaddy]

Is this a crime?! I thought we lived in America

I wasn't judging. Was just making an observation.

 

[colobuck79]

Just because if I'm not doing this, I have to get back to work......and because I like posting things that make Michigan's outlook BLEAK.......things I've gleamed from following the 11w threads the last few days since Ono's announced trip to gatorland:

Things that a school could do to be considered "aggravating factors" in the eyes of the NCAA. Aggravating factors in NCAA bylaws refer to circumstances that can increase the severity of penalties for NCAA violations. (1):

1. Multiple level 1 or 2 violations.
2. LOIC
3. Failing or refusing to take all appropriate steps to advance resolution of the matter, including steps that hinder or thwart the investigation.
4. Violations were premeditated, deliberate, or committed after substantial planning.
5. Persons of authority condoned, participated in, or willfully ignored the violations.
6. One or more violations caused ineligible competition.
7. A pattern of noncompliance.
8. Conduct intended to generate financial gain.
9. Intentional, willful, or blatant disregard for NCAA bylaws by a person with authority.
10. The school employs an athletic staff member who is subject to a show cause who then commits a level 1 or 2 offense.
11. Involvement by a representative of the team's athletic interests.
12. Conduct that inhibits the COI's ability.
13. Other

So.......1-5 for sure, 6 can be argued, 7, 8 can be argued, 9, 11, and 12. NOT 10......only because the MULTIPLE show causes that have and will probably continue to pop up from this were only handed down AFTER they were caught doing this latest scandal.

Also, Level 1 violations START with 1-2 year postseason bans, and need to be argued down from there. Every single level 1 violation that has ever gotten to the COI hearing stage has resulted in a 1 or 2 year post season ban (2). Every. Single. One. Michigan has 6 level 1 violations......with anywhere between 8 to 11 of the 12 aggravating factors added on to each of them.

And they think 2 randomly chosen games for one coach is going to be enough.


(1) - thegdouble and Rocket_Bucks85
(2) - DukeofWeimar

GPA

 

[AJHawkfan]

That's exactly what it is.

At this point if they truly did "nothing wrong" and the feeling was that the NCAA was going to fold and do nothing like their dear leader insiders claim, there's no reason for scUM to do anything to try to gain any favor.

Anything they do from now until the hearing is purely last ditch efforts to gain favor in the court of public opinion. It's not going to work, but it won't stop them from trying.

Exactly. Also important to keep in mind - and remind those who insist otherwise - that the NCAA isn't the reason why this is dragging on and on with no final resolution. Ono, Manual, Harbaugh, Moore and everyone else up there refused to cooperate with the investigation, refused to negotiate in good faith and THEY are the reason why this is hasn't been resolved. When it finally is, most of the media and DFBIA will bitch and moan about how slow the NCAA moves and how this could/should have been resolved a year (or more) ago.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Exactly. Also important to keep in mind - and remind those who insist otherwise - that the NCAA isn't the reason why this is dragging on and on with no final resolution. Ono, Manual, Harbaugh, Moore and everyone else up there refused to cooperate with the investigation, refused to negotiate in good faith and THEY are the reason why this is hasn't been resolved. When it finally is, most of the media and DFBIA will bitch and moan about how slow the NCAA moves and how this could/should have been resolved a year (or more) ago.

Well... they wouldn't be wrong about that.

With the amount of evidence they had, they could have at least put a torpedo amidships on their 2023 season in November of that year at the latest

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Well... they wouldn't be wrong about that.

With the amount of evidence they had, they could have at least put a torpedo amidships on their 2023 season in November of that year at the latest

B1G might have been able to, but the ncaa was limited by the established timetables that had in place. As satisfying as it would have been to watch, it would have opened up an avenue for tcun to throw a realistic lawsuit at them, as opposed to that shitshow that Ono tried to do before running out of court at the last moment. Damn, I'd really love to see that little fucking weasel finally get the comeuppance he so richly deserves. Being forced out by tcun helps. but the fact that he soft-landed into $3M/year at UF really sucks.

 

[Jaxbuck]

B1G might have been able to, but the ncaa was limited by the established timetables that had in place. As satisfying as it would have been to watch, it would have opened up an avenue for tcun to throw a realistic lawsuit at them, as opposed to that shitshow that Ono tried to do before running out of court at the last moment. Damn, I'd really love to see that little fucking weasel finally get the comeuppance he so richly deserves. Being forced out by tcun helps. but the fact that he soft-landed into $3M/year at UF really sucks.

Some people fail up in this world. It’s maddening and inexplicable.

 

[zbuck]

B1G might have been able to, but the ncaa was limited by the established timetables that had in place. As satisfying as it would have been to watch, it would have opened up an avenue for tcun to throw a realistic lawsuit at them, as opposed to that shitshow that Ono tried to do before running out of court at the last moment. Damn, I'd really love to see that little fucking weasel finally get the comeuppance he so richly deserves. Being forced out by tcun helps. but the fact that he soft-landed into $3M/year at UF really sucks.

Rumors are suggesting that Ono's deal at UF isn't done and that there are political powers that don't want him. Please PULL THE RUG ....

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Rumors are suggesting that Ono's deal at UF isn't done and that there are political powers that don't want him. Please PULL THE RUG ....

Which is weird because the only politics he seems to believe in are advancing his "brand." Just a few days ago, he signed a letter of university Presidents objecting to the administration's higher education policies and then had his name taken off it yesterday. I don't want to go into the content of the letter, just point out that he doesn't seem to believe in it one way or the other and will just do what's politically expedient for him at the moment. At tsun, signing it, and at UF pretending that he didn't sign it. In other words, a weasel.

That being said, I will absolutely have an erection that lasts longer than four hours if this job gets pulled.

 

[Herb Kirkstreit]

Some people fail up in this world. It’s maddening and inexplicable.

Tell me about it. I see it all the time and I just don't get it.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

And, just for @ORD_Buckeye :

TTUN Scandal CCLXXIV

Last Time on TTUN SCANDAL… Santa Ono announced he is leaving scUM for Florida this summer. scUM is planning to self-impose a two game suspension of Sherrone Moore (convientely for week 3 and 4) of the 2025 season as punishment for the sign stealing scandal. There are also self-imposed...

www.elevenwarriors.com

Okay amigos, here we go -

Mid last year, a member of the BOR decided to step away. This was due to a falling out with Santa Ono, as well as other lingering issues going on in their personal life. Why was there a falling out? Ono lied repeatedly to this person and to the BOR. This person caught Ono in the lies, called him out on it, and that caused some division - with internal arguments following. This same person, along with another well-respected colleague of mine were growing frustrated because Ono was trying to control the narrative and paint a picture that everything was sunshine and rainbows. At the same time, Warde was (and is) frustrated about being told what to say, what to do, etc. That led to him throwing up his hands and wonder what else he was supposed to do.

I originally believed this was all on Warde. The more I heard and the more I just shut up and let people talk, the more it became apparent that Ono was the catalyst of things going off of the rails.

Things appeared to quiet down for a few months. Then, just this past month in early-mid April it was shared with me that a sizable donation (in the millions) was NOT coming into the University, due to these issues. Why is this a big deal? There has been major speculation and wonder around NIH grant funding. The University was counting on this donation to move forward with some planned research (won't get into the indication or patient population at this point). When all of this happened, voices grew louder and action was demanded.

This is when Ono came under a bit more scrutiny. I firmly believe that he left Michigan for two reasons - the lies he told were being brought to the light. Florida's search for a new President has been a mess and he was the ONLY one willing to step into that. Granted, getting a major increase to his salary doesn't hurt (nor does the geography). Confirmed this with some of my old colleagues from my days of living in Florida. For those that know me, you know I was just in Florida last week again and I had plenty of time to catch up with old friends.

Despite Ono's exit, this has not quieted things down completely. His exit helps, certainly. What has not been shared is that there are still gears turning internally up north. Things are being looked into, and I confirmed on Tuesday that this is not good. Ono has really done some people dirty and his exit comes at an opportune time. Again, if you're holding the line and saying that Michigan is innocent, you'd have to believe that five or six things all happening over the course of less than a month is a total coincidence. The reality is, it isn't.

I cannot speculate on what punishments are coming (or will come). I don't know that much. I can confirm that his exit has been planned for longer than some believe, and now the cleanup efforts start. Hopefully the search committee being put together decides to hire someone fit for the role and the adults take the wheel.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And, just for @ORD_Buckeye :

TTUN Scandal CCLXXIV

Last Time on TTUN SCANDAL… Santa Ono announced he is leaving scUM for Florida this summer. scUM is planning to self-impose a two game suspension of Sherrone Moore (convientely for week 3 and 4) of the 2025 season as punishment for the sign stealing scandal. There are also self-imposed...

www.elevenwarriors.com

The UF job must have really been viewed as toxic to a degree that they were willing to throw $3M/year at Ono.

He did his predecessor at Cincy real dirty. That guy hired him up there to be the provost, and he immediately started undermining the guy with the trustees and local leadership. It got to the point that the previous President literally went full Costanza at a board meeting and quit on the spot. We laugh at the creepy jock-sniffing and #BET, but Ono is a really devious and terrible human being.

 

[Jaxbuck]

The UF job must have really been viewed as toxic to a degree that they were willing to throw $3M/year at Ono.

He did his predecessor at Cincy real dirty. That guy hired him up there to be the provost, and he immediately started undermining the guy with the trustees and local leadership. It got to the point that the previous President literally went full Costanza at a board meeting and quit on the spot. We laugh at the creepy jock-sniffing and #BET, but Ono is a really devious and terrible human being.

Well he will fit right in to where he’s going.

South Georgia is full of terrible human beings.

 

[ScriptOhio]

At UF, Ono says he’s ‘in alignment’ with Florida’s vision

Santa Ono, the sole finalist for the University of Florida’s top job, held sessions with students and faculty.

www.tampabay.com

At UF, Ono says he’s ‘in alignment’ with Florida’s vision​

Just sayin': Well, that is definitely true if UF's vision is to cheat at football (which might be the only way that the Gators can win the SEC)....