2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[Zurp]

Stating the obvious here, but it's crazy to take a step back and realize they've had three blockbuster scandals back to back to back....each one individually as big or bigger than free tattoos.

And their head coaches have been suspended for 6 games plus 1 season? Was Moore suspended for 1 game? So maybe 7 games plus 1 season?
Free tattoos cost the Buckeyes about the same amount of time - the Buckeyes had to vacate 2010, and then had players suspended for ~5 games each (some less, some more) in 2011.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

 

[Oh8ch]

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That's exactly the dildo they need to use on these clowns.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

That's exactly the dildo they need to use on these clowns.

Butt (sic) with more splinters


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And fire



Definitely fire

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And we don’t even know about potential gambling or the money side of all of this.

Like Corum in business with Stalions?

I also find it hard to believe they became elite at covering the spread and no one benefited?

I just hope they lose the last 3 years that’s all.

I've wondered about that. I think it's obvious that the "outside PI firm" wasn't Day's brother but was initiated by Vegas. On the other hand, they'd have long ago got to the bottom of any illicit gambling and wouldn't have been slowed down by the NCAA's timetable. The only thing that would keep them from pressing charges over it is if was folded into a larger federal investigation of what was going on in that program/university.

Corum went full omerta on the LLC (which he clearly was a knowing member of) and never filed a complaint with the WY Secretary Of State (which would have been a felony had it been falsified). Personally, I think that was part of how Stalions funded the spy operation, through Corum funneling his NIL money to him via the Wyoming LLC.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

I am optimistically "Hoooooooolding" to get out the dildos until the NCAA officially says, "Dear Michigan, you are proper fucked."

 

[Jaxbuck]

I've wondered about that. I think it's obvious that the "outside PI firm" wasn't Day's brother but was initiated by Vegas. On the other hand, they'd have long ago got to the bottom of any illicit gambling and wouldn't have been slowed down by the NCAA's timetable. The only thing that would keep them from pressing charges over it is if was folded into a larger federal investigation of what was going on in that program/university.

I still think they want to keep any broad gambling issues quiet. They can go after offenders in their own way (21st century cheaters justice if you will) but they don't want the world seeing that the integrity of sporting events was compromised, even a little bit (and this was a hell of a lot more than a little bit).

Better to let all the right folks know what happened and let the FBI and or NCAA deal with those who are fucking about with the golden goose. Sadly, they don't just put the offending party in a shallow grave out in the desert anymore (I don't think).

 

[ScriptOhio]

Corum went full omerta on the LLC (which he clearly was a knowing member of) and never filed a complaint with the WY Secretary Of State (which would have been a felony had it been falsified). Personally, I think that was part of how Stalions funded the spy operation, through Corum funneling his NIL money to him via the Wyoming LLC.

Just sayin': I can't believe that a player would voluntarily turn over his NIL money to a low level employee running a "clandestine cheating scheme." In addition, a booster probably wouldn't give Corum a NIL deal with the condition that he funnels Stalions some of the money either. The booster (like Uncle T) would want the illegal funding to be a "low key" as possible and he'd just hand Stallions the cash "under the table" so it couldn't be as easily traced.

 

[ScriptOhio]

I've wondered about that. I think it's obvious that the "outside PI firm" wasn't Day's brother but was initiated by Vegas. On the other hand, they'd have long ago got to the bottom of any illicit gambling and wouldn't have been slowed down by the NCAA's timetable. The only thing that would keep them from pressing charges over it is if was folded into a larger federal investigation of what was going on in that program/university.

I still think they want to keep any broad gambling issues quiet. They can go after offenders in their own way (21st century cheaters justice if you will) but they don't want the world seeing that the integrity of sporting events was compromised, even a little bit (and this was a hell of a lot more than a little bit).

Better to let all the right folks know what happened and let the FBI and or NCAA deal with those who are fucking about with the golden goose. Sadly, they don't just put the offending party in a shallow grave out in the desert anymore (I don't think).

Just sayin': I take the opposite viewpoint. I would think that the casinos and NCAA would want to catch the cheaters and send a message that "all cheaters will be caught and appropriately punished". Anything that the FBI and/or NCAA does to deal with it will become public anyway.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Just sayin': I take the opposite viewpoint. I would think that the casinos and NCAA would want to catch the cheaters and send a message that "all cheaters will be caught and appropriately punished". Anything that the FBI and/or NCAA does to deal with it will become public anyway.

Think of it this way. Alcatraz was an inescapable prison. Until somebody escaped. Do they a) publicly go after the people and get them back in their cells to send a message that even if you do escape, you won't be out long.....or b) never publicly say what happened and continue being an "inescapable prison"?

The image of sports betting being "fair" is more important than publicly punishing cheaters.

 

[buckeyemania11]

 

[Jaxbuck]

Just sayin': I take the opposite viewpoint. I would think that the casinos and NCAA would want to catch the cheaters and send a message that "all cheaters will be caught and appropriately punished". Anything that the FBI and/or NCAA does to deal with it will become public anyway.

I ask myself what they want to accomplish first and foremost. What is the real job to be done.

Have the public at large think "I am not going to place a bet because this shit is fixed" or have potential cheaters say "screw that, the reward isn't worth the risk"?

A lot more money involved by the former than the latter.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Think of it this way. Alcatraz was an inescapable prison. Until somebody escaped. Do they a) publicly go after the people and get them back in their cells to send a message that even if you do escape, you won't be out long.....or b) never publicly say what happened and continue being an "inescapable prison"?

The image of sports betting being "fair" is more important than publicly punishing cheaters.

I ask myself what they want to accomplish first and foremost. What is the real job to be done.

Have the public at large think "I am not going to place a bet because this shit is fixed" or have potential cheaters say "screw that, the reward isn't worth the risk"?

A lot more money involved by the former than the latter.

I agree with the above


So it comes down to: is the extent of the cheating sufficiently widely known that the cat can be considered out-of-the-bag. If enough people know how broken it was, they may end up thinking they have to revert to Plan B: “It was broken, but we nailed those guys so hard no one will ever do that again”

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I agree with the above


So it comes down to: is the extent of the cheating sufficiently widely known that the cat can be considered out-of-the-bag. If enough people know how broken it was, they may end up thinking they have to revert to Plan B: “It was broken, but we nailed those guys so hard no one will ever do that again”

Maybe that's why NOBODY is talking about the cheating itself.

 

[ScriptOhio]

I ask myself what they want to accomplish first and foremost. What is the real job to be done.
Have the public at large think "I am not going to place a bet because this shit is fixed" or have potential cheaters say "screw that, the reward isn't worth the risk"?
A lot more money involved by the former than the latter.

Just sayin': Yeah, it is probably a "money decision".