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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

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brodybuck21 said:
Special teams really let us down again

Missed FG
People loses almost 10 yards in field position bc he brought that KO return out of end zone
Inniss letting multiple punts land and roll
Then the coup de grace, the illegal formation penalty that negated a punt downed at the 10 and we lose 20 yards in field position on the re kick
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Not convinced the special teams disasters are getting any better anytime soon. Day legit seems to think special teams doesn't matter
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Not convinced the special teams disasters are getting any better anytime soon. Day legit seems to think special teams doesn't matter
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Well with this slow and deliberate style of offense - field goals matter much more. When you get 3 possessions in a half, you can't afford to waste a 7 minute+ drive with 0 points and a missed kick.
 
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I'm pretty at peace with the loss. It's not like one of those where you have 5 turnovers or you get a bunch of bad calls. You can't really complain you should have won the game if you never even had a lead. We had a weakness and it got exposed. That's football. Turnovers were even (I don't count the last pick by Sayin.) The pick 6 was obviously a disaster, but that happens sometimes, and as Landis pointed out, I don't love the scheme idea there of throwing the ball to your best blocker (and worst receiver) and asking your best receiver (and worst blocker) to block
 
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Tanner said:
I'm pretty at peace with the loss. It's not like one of those where you have 5 turnovers or you get a bunch of bad calls. You can't really complain you should have won the game if you never even had a lead. We had a weakness and it got exposed. That's football. Turnovers were even (I don't count the last pick by Sayin.) The pick 6 was obviously a disaster, but that happens sometimes, and as Landis pointed out, I don't love the scheme idea there of throwing the ball to your best blocker (and worst receiver) and asking your best receiver (and worst blocker) to block
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Good point.
 
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Tanner said:
I'm pretty at peace with the loss. It's not like one of those where you have 5 turnovers or you get a bunch of bad calls. You can't really complain you should have won the game if you never even had a lead. We had a weakness and it got exposed. That's football. Turnovers were even (I don't count the last pick by Sayin.) The pick 6 was obviously a disaster, but that happens sometimes, and as Landis pointed out, I don't love the scheme idea there of throwing the ball to your best blocker (and worst receiver) and asking your best receiver (and worst blocker) to block
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The pick 6 was a bad play call but the actual pick was just the worst play by Sayin. He has to recognize the un blocked defender right there running and and not throw that ball
 
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I am a big Brian Hartline fan. That said, the timing of his USF job acceptance and commitments certainly had an impact. I'm watching on an iPad screen, but I didn't see anything new from the offense or an acknowledgement of something special for Miami (e.g., Louisville). They had a chance to see Miami play in real time and a lot of film. They knew Miami's line would be big, fast, and physical with a similar profile to Indiana and that Miami had that B1G championship game footage showing Buckeye issues on both lines.

But there were conflicting factors. The new transfer portal challenges for CFP teams. The need to replace the OC and WR coach positions under that same pressure. Personnel issues on the line, especially the right side of the O line. There was a lot to do this year after losing so much talent.

Beat TCUN and it is a successful season.​

The win in AA, in those winter conditions, was so much fun to watch. It seemed like they would glide to a NC. But that was as unrealistic based on the evidence.

All teams have weaknesses. For instance, we had a lot of criticism of line play but those lines looked pretty good in AA. They ran right over TCUN, but still there had been scoring issues inside the redzone all year. A run was going to require some new wrinkles and strategies on offense and defense

When I saw Hartline pulled from the box to the field, I worried that the Buckeyes had not really created a novel game plan for Miami. After the first 3 and outs, I felt that my fears had been confirmed. There were some good adjustments at half time, and they damn well might have won were it not for the interception but it was too late.

So, I'm disappointed but relatively happy. I've lived for 8 national championships and I suspect that Day will rebuild his coaching staff and be ready to move that direction sooner than a lot of people think.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
The pick 6 was a bad play call but the actual pick was just the worst play by Sayin. He has to recognize the un blocked defender right there running and and not throw that ball
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Buckeyefrankmp said:
I wouldn't put that on Sayin. That has to be a quick throw and the QB has to have faith that the receiver is going to block enough to not have a free running defender going after the pass.
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Bad all around. Stupid play call given the performance. Terrible left side “block” that rushed the throw, absolutely no vision and mental awareness by Sayin.
 
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