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2025 Cotton Bowl: #2 tOSU vs #10 Miami-FL, Wed 12/31 7:30 ET at JerryWorld

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Captain Buckeye said:
See I wonder about this. I wonder if we focused so hard on that game that our season was just complete once we got the win. The guys would never admit it but it seemed like there was a massive (and understandable) sigh of relief as the clock hit zero.
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I have no doubt there was a huge focus on Michigan this year, but I think this was a flawed team on the OL and how Sayin dealt with pressure, and no one really understood the depth of the issues until the last 2 games. By then it was too late to make the changes they probably needed to experiment with starting after PSU.

Sometimes that’s just how it goes and there’s not much to do about it this late in the season. The play calling can’t solve a drowning OL and a QB whose head is swimming under pressure.

I think next year will be much different. They are going to be battling it out through maybe the toughest schedule they’ve had in a while, and will need a lot of creativity and growth to make it through the season.
 
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I'd say Miami rolled from 2h into a safety pressure from the weakside *at least* half dozen times.

The Bucks had absolutely no answer for it and what's worse, it's a pressure Miami has thrived on all year.

I recorded the Skycam, so when I dig deeper I'll report back more. Early impressions - coaching staff laid an egg of stale offense and continued their trend of slow/bad starts to the game. Only this game you met equal defensive talent that didn't let you grind them down over the course of the 2nd half.
 
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iBucki said:
It’s criminal to not at least try moving the pocket, bootlegs etc. when you KNOW how weak the OL is vs their DL. Sayin also missed some (hello wide open TE in the end zone early in the game) but it just felt like they somehow thought Miami’s DL wasn’t as advertised?
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IDK, Not a coach, never played, but I would treat every single game as an adaptation to my whatever scheme, and would include issues with any losses incurred. I know that would be tough but you just cannot rely on Smith being open downfield all the time, Tate catching everything, or apparently a functional run game.
Tanner said:
Add special teams to the list. Miami played a clean game, we had a missed FG, lost 20 yards on one of the most inexplicable formation penalties I've ever heard of in crunch time. You can even add the hidden yards of Peoples returning kicks for some reason and taking it out for some reason and making it to the 17.
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Disagree with the clean. There were many tackles that were super questionable
 
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Gothmog8 said:
IDK, Not a coach, never played, but I would treat every single game as an adaptation to my whatever scheme, and would include issues with any losses incurred. I know that would be tough but you just cannot rely on Smith being open downfield all the time, Tate catching everything, or apparently a functional run game.

Disagree with the clean. There were many tackles that were super questionable
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Also sorry, apparently it remembered my previous comments lol
 
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Onebuckfan said:
My opinion of hiring Patricia was wrong and I thought the portal would bring us different makers.
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Seems to me he did a really good job first year.

One thing about it that is interesting is the fact opposing QB's seemed to get a lot of time in the pocket to scan the field, and throw the ball. Even with that Matt's crew held opps to a low scoring affair. Defense only gave up 17 points yesterday. That said, his D kept this game winnable, but the offense was out of whack, and the OL really isn't very good, nor is ST, which is why they lost the game.

I'm no DC, but I would like to see what he does (if he's still here) about more QB pressures, but even without a lot of this the D was successful. Anyhow, I'm interested to see what he does with that aspect of the game, and who he brings in via recruits/transfers over-all. All in all, I don't see him as the issue. IMHO, it's OL, ST, and some growing pains, including Sayin.

This team can learn from this and become dominate if handled correctly, but I truly have my doubts that the OL will become more assertive and dominate. I hope I'm wrong about that. Day needs to take the OL woes seriously, that's been the weak link all along IMO.

Someone implied they weren't concerned about the OL moving forward after the Indy game because allegedly no other team we would play would bring that kind of pressure.

Wrong. Weakness got found out, and exploited.
 
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heretoscorn said:
I think the real reason for the loss against Indiana and Miami was the sign-stealing. No one can ever convince me that the high-octane offense of Ohio is capable of dropping only 10 on Indiana and 14 on Miami. It is really pretty obvious.

Last year, Ohio lost to Michigan but won the "National Championship." That must have been painful and felt a tad hollow. The narrative all summer was 'The natty was all that mattered".

This year, Ohio beat Michigan, lost in the Big 10 Champ, and got clapped in round 1. The narrative all summer will be "we beat Michigan, and that is all that mattered."

So, which is it?

The entitled, whiny Ohio fan is now similar to some of your players and coaches. Soft and uncommitted.

The results:

Failure to win a Big 10 championship in 5 years.
Failure to win a "national Championship" without losing to Michigan
Failure to win a national championship after beating Michigan.

Failure all around. The reason for failure: Of course ......"Everyone cheated."

What a glorious New Year's Eve, watching Julia get thrown around like a ragdoll as you got dog walked. Simply beautiful.

"but... but...but...but .... but ... but .... they cheated," says the average soft entitled, whining Ohio "fan"
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Lol took the time to register an account to post that? GFY
 
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heretoscorn said:
I think the real reason for the loss against Indiana and Miami was the sign-stealing. No one can ever convince me that the high-octane offense of Ohio is capable of dropping only 10 on Indiana and 14 on Miami. It is really pretty obvious.

Last year, Ohio lost to Michigan but won the "National Championship." That must have been painful and felt a tad hollow. The narrative all summer was 'The natty was all that mattered".

This year, Ohio beat Michigan, lost in the Big 10 Champ, and got clapped in round 1. The narrative all summer will be "we beat Michigan, and that is all that mattered."

So, which is it?

The entitled, whiny Ohio fan is now similar to some of your players and coaches. Soft and uncommitted.

The results:

Failure to win a Big 10 championship in 5 years.
Failure to win a "national Championship" without losing to Michigan
Failure to win a national championship after beating Michigan.

Failure all around. The reason for failure: Of course ......"Everyone cheated."

What a glorious New Year's Eve, watching Julia get thrown around like a ragdoll as you got dog walked. Simply beautiful.

"but... but...but...but .... but ... but .... they cheated," says the average soft entitled, whining Ohio "fan"
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I'm relaxing at home, watching the Rose Bowl parade and CFB pregames. Drinking good coffee and chilling on the couch.

I honestly can't imagine the micro-penis that is required to troll another fans board on a holiday. But that's a pretty sad existence and you have my sympathy.
 
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Buckeneye said:
I'm relaxing at home, watching the Rose Bowl parade and CFB pregames. Drinking good coffee and chilling on the couch.

I honestly can't imagine the micro-penis that is required to troll another fans board on a holiday. But that's a pretty sad existence and you have my sympathy.
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Pure Michigan. It’s all they have. :lol:
 
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heretoscorn said:
I think the real reason for the loss against Indiana and Miami was the sign-stealing. No one can ever convince me that the high-octane offense of Ohio is capable of dropping only 10 on Indiana and 14 on Miami. It is really pretty obvious.

Last year, Ohio lost to Michigan but won the "National Championship." That must have been painful and felt a tad hollow. The narrative all summer was 'The natty was all that mattered".

This year, Ohio beat Michigan, lost in the Big 10 Champ, and got clapped in round 1. The narrative all summer will be "we beat Michigan, and that is all that mattered."

So, which is it?

The entitled, whiny Ohio fan is now similar to some of your players and coaches. Soft and uncommitted.

The results:

Failure to win a Big 10 championship in 5 years.
Failure to win a "national Championship" without losing to Michigan
Failure to win a national championship after beating Michigan.

Failure all around. The reason for failure: Of course ......"Everyone cheated."

What a glorious New Year's Eve, watching Julia get thrown around like a ragdoll as you got dog walked. Simply beautiful.

"but... but...but...but .... but ... but .... they cheated," says the average soft entitled, whining Ohio "fan"
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I guarantee this guy ^^^ has a Proverbs 18:6 kinda mug. :biggrin2:
 
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heretoscorn said:
I think the real reason for the loss against Indiana and Miami was the sign-stealing. No one can ever convince me that the high-octane offense of Ohio is capable of dropping only 10 on Indiana and 14 on Miami. It is really pretty obvious.

Last year, Ohio lost to Michigan but won the "National Championship." That must have been painful and felt a tad hollow. The narrative all summer was 'The natty was all that mattered".

This year, Ohio beat Michigan, lost in the Big 10 Champ, and got clapped in round 1. The narrative all summer will be "we beat Michigan, and that is all that mattered."

So, which is it?

The entitled, whiny Ohio fan is now similar to some of your players and coaches. Soft and uncommitted.

The results:

Failure to win a Big 10 championship in 5 years.
Failure to win a "national Championship" without losing to Michigan
Failure to win a national championship after beating Michigan.

Failure all around. The reason for failure: Of course ......"Everyone cheated."

What a glorious New Year's Eve, watching Julia get thrown around like a ragdoll as you got dog walked. Simply beautiful.

"but... but...but...but .... but ... but .... they cheated," says the average soft entitled, whining Ohio "fan"
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I know you're gone, but let me keep it simple. Goals every season:
1. Beat scUM
2. Win B1G
3. Win Natty

Goal #1 is the easiest, as it's 50/50
Goal #2 is the next easiest as it's 1/18 to make the game and then 50/50
Goal #3 is the hardest, as it is a 12/130+ chance followed by 3 or 4 50/50

Achieving any of those goals can mean some form of success. The harder the goal, the bigger the success. The more goals, the more success.
 
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Gizmo said:
I know you're gone, but let me keep it simple. Goals every season:
1. Beat scUM
2. Win B1G
3. Win Natty

Goal #1 is the easiest, as it's 50/50
Goal #2 is the next easiest as it's 1/18 to make the game and then 50/50
Goal #3 is the hardest, as it is a 12/130+ chance followed by 3 or 4 50/50

Achieving any of those goals can mean some form of success. The harder the goal, the bigger the success. The more goals, the more success.
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Eh these goals were relevant 20 years ago but it's a completely different game now. As arrogant as it sounds it's pretty much natty or bust.
 
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