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Agreed. Especially when you consider it is Baylor.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Okay, so Devil's Advocate here...
Which is more impressive for a conference?
- One great team that wins everything, plus a couple of "good" teams that get in the playoffs. 3 teams in the playoff, total. One with a first-round exit, a second with a second-round exit. The third team wins the championship. You got MAYBE one more that some people claim should have been in the playoff, but no one takes them seriously. All the other teams in the conference play football like they hate the smell of their own farts.
- A bunch of "good" teams that get in the playoff. Let's say 5 teams in the playoff. One with a first-round exit. Two with second-round exits. And the last two with a third-round exit (semifinals). No teams get to the finals.
Which is more impressive for a conference?
- One great team that wins everything, plus a couple of "good" teams that get in the playoffs. 3 teams in the playoff, total. One with a first-round exit, a second with a second-round exit. The third team wins the championship. You got MAYBE one more that some people claim should have been in the playoff, but no one takes them seriously. All the other teams in the conference play football like they hate the smell of their own farts.
- A bunch of "good" teams that get in the playoff. Let's say 5 teams in the playoff. One with a first-round exit. Two with second-round exits. And the last two with a third-round exit (semifinals). No teams get to the finals.
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You gotta think like a SEC SEC SEC! hack here. Postseason results may only be used to point out strength when the SEC does well. If the SEC does not do well "you can't judge them based on the postseason!"
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I understand that, but I don't give two turds in a coffee cup about thinking like an SEC hack. I'm talking about real life thinking.
Take specifics out.
Conference A has one really good (great) team, and 3-4 "good" teams. Only two of those "good" teams make it into the playoffs, and no one sheds a tear about any other "good" teams that didn't make the playoffs. The two teams lose in the first and second rounds, respectively. The great team gets to the finals. Say they win it all. No one else in the conference impresses anyone.
Conference B has 6-7 "good" teams, of which 5 make the playoffs. The rest of the conference is "meh". One team loses in the first round, two in the second, and two lose in the semifinals. No teams make the finals.
Which conference is better?
For the record, I'll vote that Conference B is better. But... I don't care which conference is better. If my team loses in the playoffs, the conferences can drink their coffee out of a coffee cup that I didn't put two turds in. I want my team to be the winner. If some nerd thinks he can make me cry by saying that his conference is better than mine, he can have fun thinking that. But maybe he's right.
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My argument is: I root for a team, not a conference. Fuck those other guys, my team or bust. All the hypothetical arguments piss me off, too. Can't be proven right or wrong, and we'll likely never ever ever know anyway, so why waste time on it? Games are played on the field. Likewise, I don't care if "Alabama would crush them if the game was played today". Well, the game was played in September, and ya'll lost by 2 scores. The facts show that 2 of the top 4 teams in one conference lost week 1 out of conference games, one was a really really bad loss in hindsight. Now I'm rambling. Basically, I pretty much agree with what Zurp said.
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Depends on how you define "good teams"
You'll see lots trying to count Tennessee and Missouri as "good teams" if the SEC gets to count that then the B1G gets to count Iowa Illinois Washington Nebraska and Minnesota as "good teams"
If we go by that Standard it's B1G 10 "good teams" SEC 9 "good teams"
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And that's the exact problem with hypotheticals. College football is filled with "good" teams. Full of them. I'd say 60-70% of the NCAA is "good" teams. ~5% are great teams, ~5% are terrible teams, leaving 20-30% as "bad" teams. So in meetings between those 60-70%, any team could beat any team any given game and while some might be surprised, there wouldn't be any unbelievable result one way or the other. Conference narratives drive the belief that some good teams are markedly better than other good teams, but reality is that's just not the case. Yes, the great teams tend to belong to one of 2 or 3 conferences, but the good teams can be anywhere and can at least compete with the great teams, which set up some upsets. I'd wager that TTU or Utah or GT could hang with the good teams in the SEC and B1G, and win some matchups if given the chance.
EDIT: For clarity, I judge a "good" team as one that the floor is being in the bowl picture at the end of the season, with a ceiling of making the playoffs. Basically a 4-8 to 10-2 range of teams.
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As the saying goes....The SEC is undefeated in hypothetical games.
Tennessee only beat 2-7 Arkansas by 3 points and needed a 2 minute drill TD to force OT to beat 5-5 Mississippi State yet you will have people acting like you're crazy if you say Minnesota or Nebraska could possibly beat them.
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Here's a fun scenario.
Duke wins out and wins the ACC title game with a 9-4 record. James Madison wins out and a AAC finishes with 2 losses. Both G5 teams ahead of Duke in the final CFP. 2 G5 playoff teams and zero ACC teams
Duke wins out and wins the ACC title game with a 9-4 record. James Madison wins out and a AAC finishes with 2 losses. Both G5 teams ahead of Duke in the final CFP. 2 G5 playoff teams and zero ACC teams
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TampaBuckeyes
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Yes this is possible. Unlikely but possible. However I do believe that the acc and maybe the big 12 jump onto the 2 guaranteed spots in a 14-16 team model after this year. SEC is going to end up with 5 and they each get 1.
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SEC getting 5 is going to all come down to Vanderbilt, who plays Kentucky and Tennessee.l I think OU and Texas both lose tomorrow which basically eliminates them with 3 losses.
Though it is possible that USC could leap frog Vandy for the last spot if they won out.
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If Texas gives aTm their only loss, they could be considered with 3 losses, two could be to top-5 teams.
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If Notre Dame lost that would open up the door for a 3 loss team. If there's not much shenanigans though it's hard to see a 3 loss getting in this year
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OregonBuckeye
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If Texas beats either UGA or ATM, I bet the committee tries their damndest to get them in
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