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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

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buckeyemania11 said:
I've never said to fire him after this year, that wouldn't make any sense at this point. You give him a 3rd year but I think that's enough if he doesn't show clear improvement.
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Yet we get the "pleasure" of the same lazy tired takes from you. Yippie.

BTW - this season HAS BEEN clear improvement. Last year they were 17-15 and weren't even competitive. This year has been an improvement in both record, competition levels and tournament chances. But I'm guessing you won't see that either because you won't define anything that isn't in your favor.

You don't really have a plan. Placing blame solely on the coach the entire time, at which point the same people who know better tell you that you're missing the forest for the trees, you back off and prevaricate. Which is it? Diebler is winning 60.3% of his games - the all-time percentage is 61.2% - so fire him, right? What's your plan?

This program is what it is right now. Without mega donors (there are none) or the school kicking in serious $$$ (not gonna happen when they are more worried about their profit margin), you're only going to get Diebler's performance at best.

It would be a LOT easier for this program to bottom out at this point. Columbus in particular and Ohio in general doesn't produce near enough talent to go by recruiting alone to win consistently in the Big Ten or nationally. Columbus isn't Chicago or Philly or New York or Indianapolis. The basketball culture just isn't there in the city and it's currently not there at the school either. It can be, it has been, but it's not. It takes time, commitment and support to rebuild it.

So what's your plan?

Cutting any coaches off from the NIL funds needed isn't going to solve anything. It wouldn't matter if it's Jake Diebler or Sean Miller or Chris Mack whoever else you think could "fix it".

It's not fixable by one coach or one person.

Screeching about the coaching in place now, with a very limited roster and square pegs in triangular holes is just self-serving in my IMO. You either can't or won't see the big picture or you purposely want it to fail (i.e. Diebler kicked your puppy) and you like to be miserable.
 
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Mike80 said:
Yet we get the "pleasure" of the same lazy tired takes from you. Yippie.

BTW - this season HAS BEEN clear improvement. Last year they were 17-15 and weren't even competitive. This year has been an improvement in both record, competition levels and tournament chances. But I'm guessing you won't see that either because you won't define anything that isn't in your favor.

You don't really have a plan. Placing blame solely on the coach the entire time, at which point the same people who know better tell you that you're missing the forest for the trees, you back off and prevaricate. Which is it? Diebler is winning 60.3% of his games - the all-time percentage is 61.2% - so fire him, right? What's your plan?

This program is what it is right now. Without mega donors (there are none) or the school kicking in serious $$$ (not gonna happen when they are more worried about their profit margin), you're only going to get Diebler's performance at best.

It would be a LOT easier for this program to bottom out at this point. Columbus in particular and Ohio in general doesn't produce near enough talent to go by recruiting alone to win consistently in the Big Ten or nationally. Columbus isn't Chicago or Philly or New York or Indianapolis. The basketball culture just isn't there in the city and it's currently not there at the school either. It can be, it has been, but it's not. It takes time, commitment and support to rebuild it.

So what's your plan?

Cutting any coaches off from the NIL funds needed isn't going to solve anything. It wouldn't matter if it's Jake Diebler or Sean Miller or Chris Mack whoever else you think could "fix it".

It's not fixable by one coach or one person.

Screeching about the coaching in place now, with a very limited roster and square pegs in triangular holes is just self-serving in my IMO. You either can't or won't see the big picture or you purposely want it to fail (i.e. Diebler kicked your puppy) and you like to be miserable.
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What is YOUR plan? Just keep riding with Diebler for a decade no matter what the results are? We might as well just kept Holtmann if that is the case.
 
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I've fully acknowledged that the University has totally screwed the pooch when it comes to basketball. The whole program has been grossly mismanaged since the point where they completely flopped how/when the Matta separation occurred.

How do you get some more NIL interests involved though? Certainly not with the current on the court product. I think it's clear the University isn't going to pivot much more to the Hoops program, so they are going to have to figure out how to be more attractive to prospective 3rd party donations. MAYBE they break through next year. Thompson is an elite HS recruit, but they are going to have to evaluate who they bring in from the portal very well and get better results there than they have this year and last. When you don't have the funds to bring in sure fire top portal players you have to get very good at evaluating and pointing out who the best options are in the realistic batch of players.
 
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It's pretty obvious what they SHOULD do, invest enough NIL resources to help Diebler field a deeper, more talented team. I'm not saying they need to provide top-10 national resources, but they should absolutely be doubling the amount they're spending on the team this season, as they are clearly underfunding the product on the court & it shows. They badly need a legit big man, and have been inadequate in the post ever since Kaleb Wesson left, but haven't even seemed to come remotely close - what does that tell you?
 
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DZ83CK said:
It's pretty obvious what they SHOULD do, invest enough NIL resources to help Diebler field a deeper, more talented team. I'm not saying they need to provide top-10 national resources, but they should absolutely be doubling the amount they're spending on the team this season, as they are clearly underfunding the product on the court & it shows. They badly need a legit big man, and have been inadequate in the post ever since Kaleb Wesson left, but haven't even seemed to come remotely close - what does that tell you?
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The problem is I don't think the University is going to pivot enough in-house NIL. And getting 3rd party donors to boost the hoops NIL pot enough is probably going to be difficult considering the current product doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence. Which yes is directly related to the University not wanting to put much into the program, but we are just stuck in that place at the moment.
 
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This season is cooked. The girls are having a great season as is wrestling. Baseball with a promising start as well. This is the apathy for men's hoops. I just can't give a shit anymore. Life is too short.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
This season is cooked. The girls are having a great season as is wrestling. Baseball with a promising start as well. This is the apathy for men's hoops. I just can't give a shit anymore. Life is too short.
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Well, certainly at this juncture the play-by-play meltdown some are having when the team is struggling is uncalled for, because we shouldn't have any expectations of success without Mobley. The roster wasn't great to start with, and without Mobley they clearly have an uphill battle to try and win against any opponent worth their salt. It's not 100% over, they could still have a glimmer of hope if the absence is a short one, but there's no need to hold your breath at this point.
 
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Here is a list of coaches that have won a national championship since 2000. Next to their name is the eligible year of coaching they made it into the NCAA tournament with the team that they experienced their first long-term success (or won the championship then flamed out in one case).

Golden - 2
Hurley - 3
Self - 1
Drew - 5
Bennett - 3
Wright - 4
Williams R - 2
Krzyzewski - 4
Ollie - 1
Pitino - 1
Calipari - 4
Calhoun - 4
Donovan - 3
Boeheim - 1
Williams G - 5
Izzo - 3

I'm sure the fanbases weren't real happy with years one and two of most of these guys.
 
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