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2024 tOSU Offense Discussion

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Skull Session: Ohio State’s QB Room is Stacked, The Buckeyes Have a Three-Game Schedule in 2024 and C.J. Stroud Praises Ohio State Analyst Todd Fitch

Ohio State's QB room is stacked, the Buckeyes have a three-game schedule in 2024 and C.J. Stroud praises Ohio State offensive analyst Todd Fitch.
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SKULL SESSION: OHIO STATE’S QB ROOM IS STACKED, THE BUCKEYES HAVE A THREE-GAME SCHEDULE IN 2024 AND C.J. STROUD PRAISES OHIO STATE ANALYST TODD FITCH​


STACKED AS CAN BE. Ohio State’s 2024 quarterback room is loaded with talent. And I mean loaded, loaded...
  • Will Howard, a four-star transfer from Kansas State
  • Devin Brown, a four-star recruit from Gilbert, Arizona
  • Lincoln Kienholz, a four-star recruit from Pierre, South Dakota
  • Air Noland, a five-star recruit from Fairburn, Georgia
  • Julian Sayin, a five-star transfer from Alabama
Sayin is Ohio State’s latest addition to the quarterback room. The No. 5 overall prospect and No. 1 quarterback in the 2024 class, Sayin inked a National Letter of Intent to Alabama on Dec. 21. Soon after he arrived on campus, however, Nick Saban announced his retirement. The Carlsbad, California, native entered the transfer portal and later committed to the Buckeyes.

With Sayin in Columbus, Ohio State will have five scholarship quarterbacks in winter workouts and spring football. The likelihood that all five will remain Buckeyes after the spring game is slim to none. That said, Ryan Day has some decisions to make.

Here’s how Day’s decisions should play out, in the opinion of the smooth-brained Skull Session writer for Eleven Warriors (me):
  • Spare us the quarterback competition coachspeak and name Howard the starter. He didn’t come to Columbus to be a backup; he came to Columbus to lead Ohio State to a Big Ten championship and win the College Football Playoff.
  • Be honest with Brown and Kienholz about their futures at Ohio State. Allow them to seek other options in the transfer portal and continue their college football careers elsewhere.
  • Encourage Noland and Sayin to stick around for the 2024 and 2025 seasons. Remind both of them that competition breeds excellence and that either quarterback could become Ohio State’s next QB1 after Howard leaves the program.
If Day can enter fall camp with a quarterback room of Howard, Noland and Sayin, he and all of Buckeye Nation should be ecstatic. Ohio State would have its quarterback of the present (Howard) and future (Noland or Sayin) in the room. In 2025, the Buckeyes will add another talented prospect in Tavien St. Clair from Bellefontaine, Ohio, and could also secure a veteran from the portal (think: Tristan Gebbia) to back up Noland or Sayin.

Sooner or later, we could see Ohio State return to its former glory at the quarterback position – one that saw the Buckeyes bounce from J.T. Barrett to Dwayne Haskins, Haskins to Justin Fields and Fields to C.J. Stroud between 2017 and 2022.

I like the sound of that.
 
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Be honest with Brown and Kienholz about their futures at Ohio State. Allow them to seek other options in the transfer portal and continue their college football careers elsewhere.
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I don't think Kienholz is necessarily out.
Day isn't deciding 2025 QB based on recruiting rankings. If it's clear Noland and Saying truthfully pass him in Spring and Fall, then im sure he will know that personally and can have that discussion.
Otherwise, i see it as a 3way fight.
Brown, unfortunately, i don't see many options for him if he wants to be the starter here. Always welcome if he wants to be quality #2 in case Howard gets hurt or needs some games off.
 
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Way-Too-Early All-America team for 2024

Who will be the players to watch next season in college football? We take an early look at the best of the best.
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Way-Too-Early college football All-America team for 2024​


Ohio State leads the way with four first-team selections. Georgia and Michigan each have three.

RB: TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State​

Henderson's announcement that he would be back in 2024 was good news for Ohio State's offense, which will be headed up by new coordinator Bill O'Brien. Henderson shared carries last season but still managed 926 yards and 11 touchdowns. He'll again share carries next season with former Ole Miss star Quinshon Judkins, who is transferring in to give the Buckeyes what should be the best one-two punch in the country.

Second team: Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State

OG: Donovan Jackson, Ohio State​

Jackson has started at left guard for the Buckeyes each of the past two seasons and was a first-team All-Big Ten selection in 2023. He considered turning pro, but said there is "still more to do" at Ohio State, which should be loaded on the offensive line next season. The 6-4, 320-pound Jackson has allowed just two sacks in two years as a starter and is a mauler in the running game.
 
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The amount of good news since the end of the year is so encouraging. All the very good new teams from the old PAC12 entering the conference makes winning and recruiting far more difficult.

Buckeyes may be having the best off-season of any team in college football and that's not a stretch.

I seriously doubt that posted QB room will stay intact (portal) but I'll take the winner after Howard.
 
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Way-Too-Early All-America team for 2024

Who will be the players to watch next season in college football? We take an early look at the best of the best.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Way-Too-Early college football All-America team for 2024​


Ohio State leads the way with four first-team selections. Georgia and Michigan each have three.

RB: TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State​

Henderson's announcement that he would be back in 2024 was good news for Ohio State's offense, which will be headed up by new coordinator Bill O'Brien. Henderson shared carries last season but still managed 926 yards and 11 touchdowns. He'll again share carries next season with former Ole Miss star Quinshon Judkins, who is transferring in to give the Buckeyes what should be the best one-two punch in the country.

Second team: Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State

OG: Donovan Jackson, Ohio State​

Jackson has started at left guard for the Buckeyes each of the past two seasons and was a first-team All-Big Ten selection in 2023. He considered turning pro, but said there is "still more to do" at Ohio State, which should be loaded on the offensive line next season. The 6-4, 320-pound Jackson has allowed just two sacks in two years as a starter and is a mauler in the running game.
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Ummm first AND second team RBs?? I'll take it
 
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Ohio State has put the offense in position to get back on track in 2024​

The Buckeyes were far below their high standards in 2023 but have made moves to solve that issues already this offseason.​

Ohio State’s offense, typically among the best in the country, was not a thing of beauty in 2023. To be fair to the Buckeyes, the standard is very high in Columbus, but that comes with the territory of being part of the Scarlet and Gray program.

Since Ryan Day was hired by Ohio State, initially as co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach under Urban Meyer, the Buckeyes have been a top-10 offense in at least one of the key statistical categories – yards and points per game – every year. That changed this past season when the Scarlet and Gray averaged 407.9 yards (No. 48) and 30.5 points (No. 45). The previous low in either metric was No. 9 in yards and No. 11 in points per game nationally.

Much of the blame has been put on quarterback Kyle McCord, who transferred to Syracuse after the regular season, but he is not solely at fault. While the offensive line improved through the year, the overall play was substandard, which undoubtedly affected McCord. This also affected the run game, which ranked No. 88 in the country with 138.85 yards per game, by far the lowest of the Day era. For only the second time under Day and first since his first season in Columbus, Ohio State’s second-leading receiver didn’t have 600 yards, primarily due to an injury that forced Emeka Egbuka to miss three games.

As part of a more aggressive approach this offseason, Day has made it a priority to get the offense back on track.

This began when McCord elected to enter the transfer portal in early December. After throwing for 3,170 yards and 24 touchdowns, the fewest since Day started recruiting quarterbacks to the Buckeyes – not counting the 2020 COVID-impacted season when the team played only eight games – the head coach would not promise McCord would remain the starter in 2024 and the quarterback made a business decision to find somewhere that would make that guarantee. While McCord was likely to improve over his first-year-starting performances, Day couldn’t hope that would happened and risk another year like 2023.

There were also other talented players in the room. Both Devin Brown and Lincoln Kienholz had the skills to earn scholarships at Ohio State, and McCord’s transfer created an opportunity for them to showcase those leading into the Cotton Bowl. Yet Brown suffered an early injury that ruled him out, and Kienholz struggled behind a remade offensive line that did not get the job done against Missouri.
Again, Day didn’t have the luxury of waiting to see how Brown and Kienholz developed this offseason. While both may become star quarterbacks, Day needed a player who could lead the offense back to the heights it had reached the previous six years.

Enter Will Howard, the former Kansas State quarterback who hopped into the transfer portal in November and patiently waited for this opportunity to arise. While Howard hasn’t been named the starter yet, the expectation is that is a formality, like it was when Justin Fields arrived in Columbus from Georgia. Howard will compete with Brown, Kienholz and freshmen Air Noland and Julian Sayin, but the odds are in his favor.
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With Transfer Additions Likely Finished For Now, Spring Will Give Ohio State a Chance to Review Its Offensive Line Pieces

With no more winter transfer additions expected along Ohio State's offensive line, spring will give the Buckeyes a chance to evaluate what they already have at the position.
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WITH TRANSFER ADDITIONS LIKELY FINISHED FOR NOW, SPRING WILL GIVE OHIO STATE A CHANCE TO REVIEW ITS OFFENSIVE LINE PIECES​

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For now, it seems Ohio State is done pursuing offensive linemen in the transfer portal.

With Kadyn Proctor off to Iowa, no clear transfer targets remain within the position group for Ohio State. The Buckeyes added former Alabama center Seth McLaughlin and that has been all.

The post-spring transfer window will still offer Ohio State a chance to add some road-graders if it elects to do so, but what remains is an opportunity to evaluate the pieces the Buckeyes already have on their roster during spring practice.

CURRENT PROJECTED STARTING OFFENSIVE LINE
POS. NAME YEAR STARTS
LT JOSH SIMMONS SR. 26
LG DONOVAN JACKSON SR. 26
C SETH MCLAUGHLIN R-SR. 22
RG JOSH FRYAR R-SR. 14
RT LUKE MONTGOMERY SO. 0
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A lot of pieces, especially on the right side, will be under a microscope this spring for Ohio State’s offensive line. With all that’s coming back for the Buckeyes on defense, they can’t afford to have their front five hold them back again in 2024.
 
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Brian Hartline Must Quickly Turn Prospects Into Producers As Ohio State Reshapes Its Pass-Catching Pecking Order

Ohio State's receivers and tight ends rooms are loaded with high end talent but proven production is another matter entirely as the Buckeyes enter the 2024 season.
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BRIAN HARTLINE MUST QUICKLY TURN PROSPECTS INTO PRODUCERS AS OHIO STATE RESHAPES ITS PASS-CATCHING PECKING ORDER​

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Fans love to tout their favorite college football team's ability to reload versus rebuild.

The phrase insinuates having ready-made talent primed to step in for departed stars without missing a beat 100% of the time.

That sounds good and all, and in most cases at Ohio State the results lean toward a successful reload but that process shouldn't be taken for granted. A lot has to come together.

The staff needs to have accurately evaluated the player and secured his commitment to Ohio State, the player often has to display patience while putting in the work despite not receiving early playing time, and the position coach has to accelerate the player's development and polish so he's ready when the time comes.

Such efforts are important every offseason but as it relates to catching the football at Ohio State in 2024, the focus must be real as the Buckeyes lost three of their top four targets from 2023 including the college game's best receiver in a generation in Marvin Harrison Jr.

2023 OSU RECEIVING STATS MINUS THOSE SINCE DEPARTED
WHO RECEPTIONS RECEIVING YARDS TOUCHDOWN CATCHES
2023 TEAM TOTALS 255 3,498 26
MARVIN HARRISON JR. 67 1,211 14
CADE STOVER 41 576 5
JULIAN FLEMING 26 270 0
XAVIER JOHNSON 13 178 0
OTHER DEPARTURES 15 102 0
TOTAL LOST '23 PRODUCTION 162 2,337 19
TOTAL LOST '23 PRODUCTION AS A % 63.5% 66.8% 73.1%
Harrison's 2023 campaign resulted in 67 grabs, 1,211 yards, 14 touchdowns and a Biletnikoff Award as the Martian served as Kyle McCord's top target, security blanket and big play machine while his sheer presence helped free up space for the other pass catchers on the field.

Reloading him isn't realistic but Ohio State definitely needs to make sure it has a primary target ready to roll for recent transfer and presumed starting quarterback Will Howard.

Tight end Cade Stover, in a rare occurrence in Columbus, stood as Ohio State's second-most prolific pass catcher a year ago with 41 grabs for 576 yards and five scores despite missing a game and being less than 100% in numerous others. For perspective, Stover finished just 65 yards short of the most productive single-season ever recorded by an OSU tight end.

While Julian Fleming never lived up to the hype of being the No. 1 receiver in the 2020 class, he did finish last season with the team's fourth-most catches and receiving yards while playing the second-most snaps among receivers. Fleming was also a capable and experienced blocker.

The point is Ohio State lost a significant amount of experience and production from its 2023 group of pass-catchers and while the receivers room appears loaded and the tight end room looks fine, there's still the matter of actually turning all that promise into tangible results.

Ohio State's 2024 hopes received a huge boost on January 11 when Emeka Egbuka announced he would return for a third year with the Buckeyes despite NFL Draft projections having him going as high as the first round.

Egbuka had a down 2023 campaign due to a midseason ankle injury requiring tightrope surgery, costing him three games. Across 10 contests, some of which he still wasn't 100%, Egbuka put up 41 catches for 515 yards and four touchdowns, totals that make him alone account for 44% of the team's returning receptions and receiving yards and 57% of the team's returning touchdown catch production from a season ago.
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Negative Nelly here....gotta believe that the Oline will be more stout than before. Center allowed alot of pressures, and Donovan (I believe), had to cheat to his right to help out Hinzman, which led to him not staying home as he should. The Bama center should correct that issue, and seeing Montgomery on the right side could be another answer. But, besides building cohesion among the existing starters, Frye has gotta spend a bunch of time building depth. Four of the five look to be exhausting their eligibility this year, so there's also gotta be a ton of time spent with the 2's and 3's to develop them into starters for 2025. tOSU already have been verbaled by a 5* OT, and hopefully two or three more come into the fold, but hey, they're still going to be raw freshmen. Many/most of us will be content to have a good OL this year, and let next year take care of itself, and somewhere on these pages will be the play count of these 2's and 3's. Hopefully Frye will find a way to work in these young'uns (and some grizzled backups) to get the reps they need. Go Bucks! Play on!
 
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