*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[Zurp]

If they went rat on tcun, then I'm fine with letting them off the hook. It's the big prize we want, and everything that helps us get it is cool. Although, I do believe that neither we nor Sparty should ever give them a money game again.

I'm okay with Ohio State and Sparty playing them again when their head coach, and any others who were involved with allowing Stalions on the sidelines, is gone. I don't blame CMU as much as I blame the individuals who allowed it.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

As far as football goes, just run an old fashioned 4-4 defense and count on Caleb Downs to do Caleb Downs type shit.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I'm okay with Ohio State and Sparty playing them again when their head coach, and any others who were involved with allowing Stalions on the sidelines, is gone. I don't blame CMU as much as I blame the individuals who allowed it.

Except the university went into spin and protection mode. They've never admitted it was Stalions despite never coming forward with who it supposedly was...which would have happened within three days had it not been the Unclean Marine on that sideline. If they did rat on tcun, they did out of self-preservation.

 

[buckeyemania11]

My favorite offseason sunshine pump was them basically acting like they subbed the Oline like fucking hockey lines and there was no way the oline could possible not be great because they had so much experience because of that.

The oline is awful, those couple of long runs they've gotten to bail them out the last couple of were way more due to the opposing defense doing something stupid than the oline springing them free.

 

[charlohiottean]

More from 11W regarding CMU:

J.B. 3 HOURS AGO
I mentioned this a couple threads ago and think it’s important to say again…
CMU is and was never under investigation by the NCAA. I think this is extremely important for everyone to understand (Mostly UM fans…). The NCAA would be really concerned about an unknown person being on the sideline if anyone game and would be cause for them to formally investigate the school and properly punish.
Looking at the NCAA’s dashboard for infractions, CMU has never appeared as an active case or a closed case.

I don’t think we needed confirmation that Connor was on CMUs sideline, but this does absolutely confirm the NCAA know it was Conner and aren’t concerned why he was there from a CMU perspective - cause they know it really had nothing to do with CMU and everything to do with UM.

Also… if you wanted/needed another talking point that Michigan writers will gloss over… CMU confirmed they can’t talk about it as it’s part of the ongoing NCAA investigation, again, problem for Michigan is CMU isn’t part of the investigation.

Again none of this is earth shattering… but CMU didn’t get an NOA… CMU was never under investigation by the NCAA. The NCAA did work with CMU as part of the Michigan investigation and this is actual proof that Conner being on CMUs sideline is 100% in UMs NOA as if there was any doubt in that, CMU would be under investigation to figure out “then who was it”…
+ 17 HS

J.B. 3 HOURS AGO
… also I’m aware PD may have said that CMU was handed an NOA about the same time UM was. I think some people assumed they did up in Michigan, but I think CMU may have been given an abbreviated copy of Michigan’s NOA that covered the part they were involved with since they were then a “known/names party” or some sort of heads up about the conclusion of that piece, but it was NOT an NOA “against” CMU if that makes sense…

 

[Zurp]

More from 11W regarding CMU:

J.B. 3 HOURS AGO
and this is actual proof that Conner being on CMUs sideline is 100% in UMs NOA as if there was any doubt in that, CMU would be under investigation to figure out “then who was it”…

If I were *ichigan (and I'm not), I'd be pissed that this is a UM thing. I'd be screaming that Stalions did this on their own. CMU was the one who let him on their sideline.
Unless, that is, there's evidence that *ichigan worked it out with CMU.
Either way, CMU should get some punishment.

Except the university went into spin and protection mode. They've never admitted it was Stalions despite never coming forward with who it supposedly was...which would have happened within three days had it not been the Unclean Marine on that sideline. If they did rat on tcun, they did out of self-preservation.

You're probably right, but I think I'm putting more blame on the coaching staff than I am the university. The university didn't organize to get Stalions on the sideline - the coaching staff did. Once they were caught, sure, the university should have come forward, so maybe give them an X-year hiatus from their money games. But I want to totally black-ball the head coach and anyone else who was behind allowing Stalions on the sideline.

 

[jarv]

If I were *ichigan (and I'm not), I'd be pissed that this is a UM thing. I'd be screaming that Stalions did this on their own. CMU was the one who let him on their sideline.
Unless, that is, there's evidence that *ichigan worked it out with CMU.
Either way, CMU should get some punishment.

Sadly nobody cares because CMU lost. If they upset Michigan State it would be a bigger deal. No harm, no foul.

 

[AJHawkfan]

Sadly nobody cares because CMU lost. If they upset Michigan State it would be a bigger deal. No harm, no foul.

Thing is, I don't think Stallions wasn't there to help CMU beat MSU. He was there to gather intel on MSU to help TCUN beat MSU.

Had he just followed the previous routine and just bought tickets to sit in the stands, no one would've been the wiser. Because someone on CMU's staff actively conspired to get Stallions the sideline pass and official coach's wardrobe for the game, it shows that someone at CMU was involved. (Because no one on CMUs staff stopped and said "Who the hell is this dude on our sidelines for the entire game?" tells me that the entire coaching staff knew who he was and why he was there.)

 

[Zurp]

Thing is, I don't think Stallions wasn't there to help CMU beat MSU. He was there to gather intel on MSU to help TCUN beat MSU.

Had he just followed the previous routine and just bought tickets to sit in the stands, no one would've been the wiser. Because someone on CMU's staff actively conspired to get Stallions the sideline pass and official coach's wardrobe for the game, it shows that someone at CMU was involved. (Because no one on CMUs staff stopped and said "Who the hell is this dude on our sidelines for the entire game?" tells me that the entire coaching staff knew who he was and why he was there.)

Right.
I'm sure *ichigan was behind it. CMU's motives were clearly to help Harbaugh and *ichigan. But, I think *ichigan could and should argue that they had nothing to do with it.
I mean, they're arguing that Stalions was working on his own with all the other stuff. They should be pointing some blame at CMU in this case.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Thing is, I don't think Stallions wasn't there to help CMU beat MSU. He was there to gather intel on MSU to help TCUN beat MSU.

This

 

[NFBuck]

Thing is, I don't think Stallions wasn't there to help CMU beat MSU. He was there to gather intel on MSU to help TCUN beat MSU.

Had he just followed the previous routine and just bought tickets to sit in the stands, no one would've been the wiser. Because someone on CMU's staff actively conspired to get Stallions the sideline pass and official coach's wardrobe for the game, it shows that someone at CMU was involved. (Because no one on CMUs staff stopped and said "Who the hell is this dude on our sidelines for the entire game?" tells me that the entire coaching staff knew who he was and why he was there.)

Again, this is another thing that is objectively obvious. Who is CMU's head coach? Jim McElwaine, who just so happens to have been on Cheatin' Jim's staff in 2018. Oh, there's more? Yes, there's more; current tCun HC and former OC Cryin' Sherrone Moore was on the coaching staff where before going to tsun? That's right, CMU; for 4 years (2014-17). Any other connections you ask? Why yes, there is! CMU's DB coach is Michael Zordich, who was on Cheatin' Jim's staff at tsun for 6 seasons (2015-20). More? Yep! Offensive QC coach Brandon Blaney was an analyst for tCun for 3 seasons (2018-20). Clear as day what happened there. Cheaters gonna cheat.

 

[Zurp]

Wolvie Bob the Ref Steals the Game for Scum against the Gophers.

Wolvie Bob the Ref Steals the Game for Scum against the Gophers.

247sports.com

So I'm checking out the Sparty site to see what they have to say, and they're still complaining about the referees for the UM-UM game. Fair enough. But I found this post:

The most egregious game-ending pro um (non)call was Lawrence Reid’s “fumble” against Indiana in 1979. Reid is about to be tackled in bounds at about midfield with six seconds left. He throws the ball out of bounds to the Indiana sideline to stop the clock (it was actually thrown directly to Coach Corso). No penalty. Next play? Game-winning TD.

I've never heard of this. So, how about I look it up on Youtube.

At about 2:34 in the video, the camera man decides an airplane with a sign is more important than the game. The game is still going but we don't get to see the play because of this plane. By the time we get back to the play, it's over. The *ichigan player is at the Indiana 48, and they mark the ball dead at the 50. 3:13 shows them lining up at the 50, but officials stop the play. The video was edited to jump to the start of the next play, where the LOS is the Indiana 45. Offsides penalty? I don't know. But I don't see anything that shows officials did anything they shouldn't have done.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Washington is a 3 point favorite currently against scUM

wonder how many times a unranked team has been favored against a "top 10" team. Can't be many.

 

[cincibuck]

My favorite offseason sunshine pump was them basically acting like they subbed the Oline like fucking hockey lines and there was no way the oline could possible not be great because they had so much experience because of that.

The oline is awful, those couple of long runs they've gotten to bail them out the last couple of were way more due to the opposing defense doing something stupid than the oline springing them free.

That and the fact that once you get beyond the Bucks, Penn State, and Michigan, the quality of BIG football really drops off. Of course you can say the same about SEC football.

 

[buckeyemania11]

That and the fact that once you get beyond the Bucks, Penn State, and Michigan, the quality of BIG football really drops off. Of course you can say the same about SEC football.

Yep sadly I won't be shocked if they happen to stumble into 9 wins. You just can't trust teams like Indiana, Washington, Sparty and Illinois not to soil themselves.