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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Buckeyefrankmp said:
Weiss with kiddy porn on his computer is bad enough to bring in the FBI but is it enough to leave the program in worse shape than before Jim took over as Greeny said? No. You fire the guy. Call him an anomaly and move on. Even if the FBI was brought in because he was hacking co-eds emails. It would be something the football program could distance themselves from. But to bring the football program down to the 5-7 Brady Hoke years?
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That’s happening at least for next year.

They lose 40+ seniors and have a rough schedule too.

Then you add in likely losing their entire staff and having their roster raided for transfers due to the impending sanctions? They’ll be praying for a Brady Hoke year.
 
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A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.
 
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sflbuck said:
A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.
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Ok.......but no competitive advantage, correct?
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Maybe, but the FBI has no fucks to give about NCAA rules. So, what's their play? Kiddy porn on Weiss' laptop? Gambling with insider info by coaches? Anyone? Those are the two avenues that I've seem that could take this case to the feds.
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We would be speculating at this point as to what Weiss specifically did to raise the FBI's eyebrows. And even though we've been told the 2 investigations "are not related", I think it's entirely possible that the FBI is sharing just enough of what they've discovered with the NCAA and/or the BIG 10 to pour cold water on the UofM Public Relations effort. It could be that benign. Or, Maybe there's at least 1 gambling account on Weiss' laptop that also has a history of accessing Stalions spreadsheets. But either way, this is all coming out at a later date. But Federal Investigations take a lot of time because they leave no stone unturned and ALWAYS seek multiple counts to indict on, so as to overwhelm their suspect into a plea bargain. It's likely that the NCAA weighs in before the FEDS, so don't expect to have the entire picture before the start of next season.
 
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sflbuck said:
A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.
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I decided to look at SCUM penalties after the scandal broke

MSU 7 penalties for 75 yards

Purdue. 5 penalties for 58 yards

Penn State. 6 penalties for 50 yards

Maryland 2 penalties for 25 yards

Looks like reverting to the mean to me
 
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sflbuck said:
I decided to look at SCUM penalties after the scandal broke

MSU 7 penalties for 75 yards

Purdue. 5 penalties for 58 yards

Penn State. 6 penalties for 50 yards

Maryland 2 penalties for 25 yards

Looks like reverting to the mean to me
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The mean being the B1G refs out to get ‘em again? Hope everyone on BP has made their Ref Fund contributions!
 
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sflbuck said:
A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.
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Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
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I'm choosing to believe there was one kid on Bama's team who just committed a penalty on every other play. Because of that, he couldn't get drafted and stayed all 4 years, but he finally left after 2022 and they went back to not being completely terrible.
 
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sflbuck said:
I decided to look at SCUM penalties after the scandal broke

MSU 7 penalties for 75 yards

Purdue. 5 penalties for 58 yards

Penn State. 6 penalties for 50 yards

Maryland 2 penalties for 25 yards

Looks like reverting to the mean to me
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Still a mystery to scUM fans why performance has been so much worse since they go caught cheating. I mean everyone knows the signs so it wasn't a big deal right??? I can't wait until Netflix has an Untold for this.
 
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sflbuck said:
A new poster, AhmedDeaus, on Eleven Warriors had an issue I had not thought of- penalties. See copy and paste below-

I thought that Xichigan would have less need to jump offsides if they knew where the offense was going with the ball. I wasn't able to find the penalties by type on a quick search, but found something interesting on team rankings in terms of penalty yards per game. I hope the table format survives posting. :)

Year 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023
Alabama 28 60 118 118 108 128 59
Clemson 33 27 28 28 61 49 18
Georgia 88 56 49 49 32 35 19
Xichigan 86 101 50 50 18 3 1
NotreDame 48 33 65 65 49 25 85
Ohio St 115 127 75 75 89 44 51

I included the other teams as controls. Most of the major programs are in the middle of the pack (or lower) for penalty yardage against. But, Xichigan went from ranked #101 in 2018 to #18 in 2021 when they are alleged to have started their impermissible scheme, to #1 this year before the story broke.

They not only haven't had to jump offsides, but they don't need to hold if they know when blitzes are coming or commit pass interference if the safeties always know its a pass and don't ever bite on a play action fake.
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Thank you for sharing this, I've done the same elsewhere.

I also created a visual:

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exhawg said:
Still a mystery to scUM fans why performance has been so much worse since they go caught cheating. I mean everyone knows the signs so it wasn't a big deal right??? I can't wait until Netflix has an Untold for this.
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Their explanation is that they're keeping it all close to the vest. They aren't tipping their hand about what they're going to do to Ohio State.
 
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