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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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LovelandBuckeye said:
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Still amazes me that the DFBIA continues to point to these mysterious "bagmen" as the reason why they can't compete with the rest of the "dirty 6"....

1. Bagmen allow programs to recruit at a high level, even if they have not attained the on-field success that other programs have. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
2. It seems to me that a bagman would be most influential during the recruiting process. Once a kid signs his name on the dotted line, there's really no reason to continue funneling cash his way.
2a. If you continue to funnel cash his way, the player would not have a lot of motivation to work hard and find success on the field. He's already getting paid. Highly rated recruits would stop working, stop developing and results would show up on the field. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
2b. If you stopped funneling cash to players, I suppose some would feel entitled about getting it for no reason and then be pissed about losing it. As a result, you would see a higher than usual number of them transfer out for reasons other than lack of playing time. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
3. When it comes to bagmen and which programs use them, it seems logical to look at other areas where rules have been bent and/or envelopes have been pushed. Doing things like satellite camps, offering employment to recruits' parents and/or coaches in exchange for commitments, extended/overnight in-home visits and booster-funded international vacations are all things that seem to test the limits of what is and is not against the rules. It stands to reason that programs who have employed these tactics (and loudly boasted about being innovative and game-changing) that there may be other tactics at work which are being less publicized. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Still amazes me that the DFBIA continues to point to these mysterious "bagmen" as the reason why they can't compete with the rest of the "dirty 6"....

1. Bagmen allow programs to recruit at a high level, even if they have not attained the on-field success that other programs have. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
2. It seems to me that a bagman would be most influential during the recruiting process. Once a kid signs his name on the dotted line, there's really no reason to continue funneling cash his way.
2a. If you continue to funnel cash his way, the player would not have a lot of motivation to work hard and find success on the field. He's already getting paid. Highly rated recruits would stop working, stop developing and results would show up on the field. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
2b. If you stopped funneling cash to players, I suppose some would feel entitled about getting it for no reason and then be pissed about losing it. As a result, you would see a higher than usual number of them transfer out for reasons other than lack of playing time. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
3. When it comes to bagmen and which programs use them, it seems logical to look at other areas where rules have been bent and/or envelopes have been pushed. Doing things like satellite camps, offering employment to recruits' parents and/or coaches in exchange for commitments, extended/overnight in-home visits and booster-funded international vacations are all things that seem to test the limits of what is and is not against the rules. It stands to reason that programs who have employed these tactics (and loudly boasted about being innovative and game-changing) that there may be other tactics at work which are being less publicized. (Kind of like what we've recently seen at ttun.)
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I have always felt that a shortcoming of the Scout recruiting lists is that when they say a player has been offered they don't include the amount.
 
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