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2020 Team Discussion Thread

OSU could just as easily be in the same kind of fix if we lost Wade and had to face a top shelf passing attack.

I think a lot of our fans (not calling out any one here) need to wait and see OSU play a live opponent before they get too cocky. The 2019 secondary is gone. Only thing working in our favor is the lack of a Leach type passing attack in the B1G this year.

This is from the LSU thread, but I thought it was important to highlight. I saw a lot of comments before B10 was back on (on other sites) about this was going to be one of the best teams in OSU history. This team has amazing players on it, but I just saw that as being pretty hyperbolic with a thin secondary and a defense that's going to struggle early replacing so many guys.

Just think it's important that people not freak out when OSU doesn't beat Nebraska 70-13. I know most on here won't, but I hear alarm bells when there's that kind of talk.
 
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Catch them in late November or early December when the weather won't let them pass, then load the box against the run. Or play them sans Justin Fields because of contact tracing/COVID. Or play their back up OL for the same reason. None of these things are unreasonably small percentage events.

You're right about each of these making things closer, but I think the depth of talent is there to guy through them, if necessary.
 
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I think OSU has a huge edge over the rest of the B1G in a COVID attrition war.

I don't think the depth can do a damn thing about the weather.

100% agree that the B1G's best chance is in a game that is made closer AND made more dependent on random events. The weather checks those boxes. Such things can take a game where KState beats Oklahoma 2 years in a row and Cowbell beats the defending national champion and REALLY make things interesting.

But in a game like that, the team with the better lines has an advantage. We have good reason to expect that Ohio State will thus win winter-weather games by a touchdown or 2 instead of the eleventy billion that they would have under normal circumstances.

All such statements should be qualified by "all things being equal". Sports have a way of being very unequal at least once in an 8-game conference season. If Munford goes down with an injury and the other 4 OL starters go to the hospital to visit him and leave with Covid, things could go sideways pretty fast.

I expect good things. I will be so unsurprised if they don't happen that I might die from unsurprise.
 
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This is from the LSU thread, but I thought it was important to highlight. I saw a lot of comments before B10 was back on (on other sites) about this was going to be one of the best teams in OSU history. This team has amazing players on it, but I just saw that as being pretty hyperbolic with a thin secondary and a defense that's going to struggle early replacing so many guys.

Just think it's important that people not freak out when OSU doesn't beat Nebraska 70-13. I know most on here won't, but I hear alarm bells when there's that kind of talk.

There’s the ignore button for that.
 
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RYAN DAY SAYS WYATT DAVIS “GOT GREAT NEWS,” SHAUN WADE “GOOD TO GO” AFTER RETURNING TO OHIO STATE FOLLOWING BRIEF OPT-OUTS

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Based on Day's comments on the Ohio State IMG Sports Network on Monday, though, it sounds as if Davis has received the go-ahead to play this fall, while defensive coordinator Kerry Coombs had already said last week that there was “no concern” about Wade being cleared to return. And Day believes all Big Ten players who opted out should be cleared to return to play if they want to do so, given the unprecedented circumstances that arose when the Big Ten postponed its fall season – seemingly taking away the conference teams' chance to compete for a spot in the College Football Playoff – before rescheduling the season earlier this month.

“I also just think that that's the right thing to do for these guys in the Big Ten, whether it's (Purdue wide receiver) Rondale Moore or (Rashod) Bateman at Minnesota, I just think those guys deserve to play,” Day said. “They got kind of put in a different situation than we've ever seen before in the history of college football, and now that we're playing again, I think all of those guys deserve the opportunity to play. I think it's good for football and good for the Big Ten.”

Other updates from Day's appearance on Monday night's show:
  • On padded practices starting Wednesday: “I think some guys look forward to it more than others ... It's about playing physical. That's the biggest thing. We got to get back to playing with our pads down, blocking, tackling ... all the things that come with playing football.”
  • “We got to make sure when we come out to play Nebraska, we're playing physical, we've got our pads down and we're playing tough.”
  • Day said the Buckeyes don't do the Oklahoma drill much anymore because of the injury risk.
  • On starting padded practices while also preparing for the season opener: “We're not that far away from the game ... we'll slowly start to introduce Nebraska as we go, because there's a lot of concepts that we carry over from week to week anyway.”
  • Day said the Buckeyes plan to rotate all the backup quarterbacks until they see if someone separates from the others.
  • On Marcus Crowley's recovery from torn ACL, along with Master Teague's recovery from an Achilles injury: “He and Master really have both worked hard to get back on the field. They're still working through all that. They've done a good job, though.”
  • Day said the Buckeyes are “hopeful“ Kamryn Babb will be play this season after missing each of the last two seasons with knee injuries. “He could be an amazing story one day, so really proud of the work he's done.”
  • On Wyatt Davis and Shaun Wade being cleared to play after opting out and then opting back in: “Wyatt got great news, and Shaun's good to go.”
  • Day said Ohio State did not remove any more black stripes during Monday's practice. “It was kind of raining sideways out there,” Day said of the weather during practice.
  • Day said he watched Mississippi State's win over LSU on Saturday and was impressed by what he saw from the Bulldogs. He acknowledged that it was “bizarre” for him and his fellow coaches to watch the games on Saturday while Ohio State still isn't playing.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...r-returning-to-ohio-state-following-brief-opt



PROGRESS FOR STOVER

“He's doing great,” Hausmann said. “He's a super athletic guy. He can go up and get the ball. Obviously, it's hard switching positions. But I think he's been doing a really good job, and obviously it's not going to be perfect, but he's as athletic as any tight end can be. He's just physical and strong as you need him to be. He's really good on the point of attack. He can go up and get the ball. He's a fast guy. So I think he's been doing a great job so far.”

COOPER’S MOTIVATION

“It was tough. It was hard,” Cooper said. “Obviously, just not being able to control what was going on, because I couldn’t control my injury that happened last year, and not being able to play hurt a lot, and I came back another year because I wanted to be able to prove the type of player that I was and show that to everyone and for my team and come back and be a leader for my team and knowing that it was almost taken away from me really sucks and it hurts but we’re over that now, and I’m just happy that we got it back, thanks to our coaches and everybody who fought for our season. So right now, all those feelings that I had before, are gone.”

FEELINGS DURING BIG TEN UNCERTAINTY
“I'm sure everybody said once we came in that day, August 12, it was pretty heartbreaking just all the work we put in this whole time, going home and doing all the workouts at home and staying on track as a team,” Ruckert said. “And then just to be told that you don't get the chance to go out there and play was heartbreaking. But we didn't skip a beat. We got back to work. We kept working. Coach Day just said we're going to play and whenever we play, we'll be ready for it. As soon as we got the green light, we were all excited again and got back to work.”

Farrell said the “ups and downs were really hard at times.”

“That was a process,” Sevyn Banks said. “It was just a waiting game, for real, but we were always just trying to get ready so we could play. It's always good to be ready.”

SEVYN GETS 7
“Shoot, you look good, you play good,” Banks said/ “I've got that mindset. That's what has been instilled in me. Seven is a lot of things for me. My name's Sevyn. My mom is a real biblical person. She named me Sevyn (because) it took God seven days to make the Earth. It's a completion number and it's just real common in the Bible. Just seven all the way around, that's just me.”
 
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1) What will the reps split be between Trey Sermon and Master Teague?

In media availabilities thus far, Buckeye coaches have indicated that both Oklahoma transfer Trey Sermon and All-Big Ten back Master Teague are both healthy and taking reps. They’ve said that they will be splitting first-team snaps 50/50, but that’s before any hitting happens on the practice field.

Presuming that quarterback Justin Fields runs the ball more than he did in 2019, I think that will open up bigger holes for when the backs get the ball, but it will also likely decrease their non-garbage time carries.

Sermon rushed for 2,076 in three season with the Sooners for an average of 6.1 yards per carry. After getting 17 carries in his redshirt season, Teague went for 789 yards on a 5.8 ypc clip last fall. Now keep in mind, Sermon was running against legendarily porous Big 12 defenses, while Teague was backing up J.K. Dobbins and getting most of his carries after games were well in hand.

I would imagine that both will get their share of carries, especially early in the season, but with Sermon being an almost completely unknown for OSU fans, and Teague looking to build on his All-B1G selection last year, I am really excited to see if one of the two emerges as the go-to option out of the backfield.

2) Will Nicholas Petit-Frere finally claim the starting role at right tackle, or will Paris Johnson Jr. grab it from him?

Nicholas Petit-Frere came to Ohio State as a five-star prospect and the No. 1 offensive lineman in the 2018 recruiting class. Paris Johnson Jr. has arrived in Columbus as a five-star prospect and the No. 1 offensive line in the 2020 recruiting class.

Both monstrous young men brought incredibly high expectations with them when they arrived on campus, but as of yet, NPF has not been able to grab hold of a starting spot on the offensive line. Now granted, the o-line is arguably the most mentally demanding position on a football team, and it generally requires the biggest body transformation from high school, so it can take time to acclimate to the role on the collegiate level.

But, with Petit-Frere now in this third season with the Buckeyes, there are some who have begun to question whether or not he will ever live up to expectations. Is that fair? Probably not. Considering that he’s been behind some pretty good players over the last three season, and that he has put on roughly 50 lbs. of muscle since coming to college, it makes sense that he it took him some time to be ready to join the starting lineup.

It is highly unusual for a true-freshman to start on the offensive line, but if anyone is going to do it, it will likely be a physical freak like Johnson. If he takes the starting job from NPF, that could be the beginning of a great career for Paris, and the end of a disappointing one for Nick.

3) How will Kerry Coombs reconfigure the defensive secondary?

Now that Shaun Wade has officially been confirmed to be back with the Buckeyes, we can lock him to one of the outside cornerback positions along with Sevyn Banks. So, what does that mean for the slot-safety position that Wade occupied in 2020? Early word is that senior Marcus Williamson has been getting some reps there, but third-year players Tyreke Johnson and Cameron Brown will obviously also be in that discussion as well.

Then we get to safety; how will Coombs’ return impact the “bullet” position that never really happened in 2019? Josh Proctor is presumed to be the starter heading into camp, as he has the most seniority, but redshirt-sophomore Marcus Hooker could give him a run for his money. Then, freshmen Lejond Cavazos and Lathan Ransom will certainly also be fighting for playing time as well.

While we assume that we will see the same single-high look that the Buckeyes employed last year, could Coombs’ return mean that we will see two safeties in the back of the OSU defense? I don’t know, but I am anxious to find out.

4) Who will be Justin Fields’ backup?

We already know who OSU’s QB1 is going to be for this season, as Justin Fields enters the campaign as one of the country’s top Heisman candidates and a contender to be the No. 1 pick in next year’s NFL Draft. But what happens behind him?

Last season, Day and the offensive staff strategically tried to prevent Fields from using a huge portion of what makes him so special by limiting how often he ran the ball. Due to the thinnest of quarterback rooms in recent memory, had Fields suffered an injury, Ohio State had next to nothing to replace him (no offense, Chugs).

This season though, Day and new quarterback coach Corey Dennis have two highly sought after true freshmen in Jack Miller and C.J. Stroud. Coming into the fall, I assumed that without the benefit of a spring camp, or normal summer workouts, Stroud would likely be the first to get the nod if Fields was out for an extended period of time due to a serious injury or COVID-related absence. Miller spent almost an entire year recovering from a knee injury, so he hasn’t played football at all since last October.

But, perhaps the extra time has allowed him to even more fully recuperate so that he and Stroud are entering the competition on equal footing. Then, of course, there is Gunnar Hoak, the Kentucky grad-transfer and Ohio State legacy. If Fields goes down in a game, I could see Hoak stepping in to serve as a stop-gap, either for a few plays or series, or to finish a game before Day gets a freshman ready for the next week.

However, if the worst happens, and Day has to turn the offense over to someone for an extended period of time, it will almost certainly be a freshman, and that freshman will have a huge advantage to becoming the future of the OSU offense.
 
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Football players from all over the Big Ten will finally be putting on the pads today.

With the conference's implementation of daily antigen testing for COVID-19 beginning Wednesday, the Big Ten is finally comfortable allowing full contact football practices to begin.

Before the conference shut football down back in August, they eliminated padded practices the day before they were set to start, requiring teams to instead continue without pads or full contact because of contact tracing concerns.

With access to the daily testing now, however, those contact tracing concerns have been greatly reduced. And now, as both OSU head coach Ryan Day and offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson said last week, pads will be going on and "real football" can begin.
 
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PADDED UP. In the most definitive sign yet that Ohio State football truly is nigh, the Buckeyes are officially padded up.



If y'all are every bit as fanatical as I already know that you are, you've already dissected that brief highlight clip like it was the Zapruder film. But on the off chance you missed it, it looks like we've got Harry Miller and Nicholas Petit-Frere rolling with the ones on the offensive line early on.

I certainly won't complain about adding a couple of five-stars to the trenches.
 
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This is from the LSU thread, but I thought it was important to highlight. I saw a lot of comments before B10 was back on (on other sites) about this was going to be one of the best teams in OSU history. This team has amazing players on it, but I just saw that as being pretty hyperbolic with a thin secondary and a defense that's going to struggle early replacing so many guys.

Just think it's important that people not freak out when OSU doesn't beat Nebraska 70-13. I know most on here won't, but I hear alarm bells when there's that kind of talk.
Yes I'm king overreaction as you all well know...so that said I actually have expectations I won't be too fired up about a specific aspect of the game. Personally I expect the defense to have some issues early in the year but I don't think it'll matter with our offense.

Maybe a score like 56-27 or something.

If we don't miss a beat on defense I'd be surprised.

None of it should matter though because we get to watch Ohio State. A month ago we didnt even have that. So hopefully I/We can remember that if theres struggles.
 
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Ohio State's Ryan Day: Some coaches not staying home as precaution to limit risk of COVID-19 on team

Several Ohio State coaches are not staying at their homes as a precaution to limit the risk of COVID-19 entering the Buckeyes football program as the team prepares for the season.

Coach Ryan Day said there's no requirement on where coaches must live but he said some have chosen not to stay with their families because of the COVID-19 risk. Ohio State is scheduled to kick off the season Oct. 24 at home against Nebraska. After the Big Ten reinstated the football season on Sept. 16, Ohio State and other conference teams are playing nine consecutive weeks with no open dates.

"I don't think people realize the sacrifices everyone is making to play a season," Day said Friday.

Ohio State is conducting daily COVID-19 testing for 120 players and 50 staff members deemed to be in "Tier 1" because of their regular contact with players.

"Didn't put any guidelines in place or tell somebody how to handle their business at all," Day said. "We just talked about how having school-aged children who are going to school is a risk. They're at school, they're exposed. Some of the sports leagues are still going on and they're playing. It's an exposure, it's an unknown, so to be aware of it, each guy's handling it their own way.

"It isn't easy."

Day said coaches who aren't staying at home are finding opportunities to see their families, especially in outdoor settings with masks on. No one outside the players and Tier 1 staff is allowed at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, where Ohio State is conducting practices and meetings.

"My family, we're still trying to figure this part of it out," Day said. "This is all new for us, major challenge, but we're working through it and you try to figure out what's best. When I go in the house, I'm wearing a mask. It's one of those things that our staff is very, very concerned about their day-to-day operation."

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ying-home-precaution-limit-risk-covid-19-team
 
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