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2018 NFL Draft Talk Thread

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Ditched Crabtree and King because they were "headaches".....then trade for Marty B.

I don't think I've been on board the Gruden Train for even one second.
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I've haven't understood the fascination with Gruden in recent years. Once upon a time (i.e. two decades ago), he was a good, young, innovative coach. Then the rest of the league caught up, he got his team mired in salary cap purgatory and he was plum mediocre for his last 5-6 years. Now, after a decade away from coaching, where he became almost a parody of your average knuckle-dragging "footbah guy", he's supposed to swoop in and restore the glory to the Raiders? This looks like an epic failure waiting to happen.
 
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NFBuck said:
I've haven't understood the fascination with Gruden in recent years. Once upon a time (i.e. two decades ago), he was a good, young, innovative coach. Then the rest of the league caught up, he got his team mired in salary cap purgatory and he was plum mediocre for his last 5-6 years. Now, after a decade away from coaching, where he became almost a parody of your average knuckle-dragging "footbah guy", he's supposed to swoop in and restore the glory to the Raiders? This looks like an epic failure waiting to happen.
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And it will be fantastic.
 
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NFBuck said:
I've haven't understood the fascination with Gruden in recent years. Once upon a time (i.e. two decades ago), he was a good, young, innovative coach. Then the rest of the league caught up, he got his team mired in salary cap purgatory and he was plum mediocre for his last 5-6 years. Now, after a decade away from coaching, where he became almost a parody of your average knuckle-dragging "footbah guy", he's supposed to swoop in and restore the glory to the Raiders? This looks like an epic failure waiting to happen.
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“Football guys” are all the rage now, as if crappy or over-the-hill ones never existed (Holmgren). It will bounce back the other way when guys like Gruden faceplant
 
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NFBuck said:
I've haven't understood the fascination with Gruden in recent years. Once upon a time (i.e. two decades ago), he was a good, young, innovative coach. Then the rest of the league caught up, he got his team mired in salary cap purgatory and he was plum mediocre for his last 5-6 years. Now, after a decade away from coaching, where he became almost a parody of your average knuckle-dragging "footbah guy", he's supposed to swoop in and restore the glory to the Raiders? This looks like an epic failure waiting to happen.
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For some reason people like his personality and ESPN sells him as an offensive genius. That's it. His offenses in Tampa were bad.
 
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NFBuck said:
I've haven't understood the fascination with Gruden in recent years. Once upon a time (i.e. two decades ago), he was a good, young, innovative coach. Then the rest of the league caught up, he got his team mired in salary cap purgatory and he was plum mediocre for his last 5-6 years. Now, after a decade away from coaching, where he became almost a parody of your average knuckle-dragging "footbah guy", he's supposed to swoop in and restore the glory to the Raiders? This looks like an epic failure waiting to happen.
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Maybe 2 years ago this hire makes sense. 2016 proved they didn’t need a move like this. It’s so stupid. The problem with 2017 was the OC, not the HC.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Maybe 2 years ago this hire makes sense. 2016 proved they didn’t need a move like this. It’s so stupid. The problem with 2017 was the OC, not the HC.
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Totally agree, I thought firing the HC was just plain stupid especially with the injury to Carr. They may do fine under Gruden for a year or two, but after that I would be surprised to see him be successful. I just don't see him being the next Dick Vermeil.
 
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