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2018-2019 College Basketball Discussion (Official Thread)

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Was this a down freshman class as far as depth of talent? I see KY had a high-scoring game vs VMI today, and not one of their highly touted frosh class cracked double digits. Perhaps an ominous sign. I do know Keldon Johnson was great vs Duke, so he should be fine this year and a likely 1 & done. But the rest of those guys seem to be falling short of expectations to an extent.

Also, Nova benched their 5-star frosh guard Quinerly DNP-CD for the loss vs Furman. Sparty is supposed to have the top frosh class in the B1G and none are seeing meaningful minutes.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I am not a huge fan of CBB but this new hook&hold/flagrant one thing seems like a really, really bad idea.
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i don't have a problem with the hook-and-hold foul. the h&h has crept into the college game from the nba like a virus. and it's very hard to detect. for example, take this play from last season:





sure, it looks like haarms is the victim in regular motion, but do yourself and play the video frame by frame.

at 0:03, you see haarms right arm grasp the illinois player's left arm. note how awkward it looks for haarms to jump with his right arm pinned against his body. heck, it starts earlier than 0:03. haarms is grasping the illinois players' arm before he even jumps (at 0:02).

and then when haarms comes down, it's his left arm that then does the grasping. you see it again at 0:05. haarms has his left arm pinned against his own body with the illinois player's arm in between. haarms finally completes the move by falling down, hoping to get a call.

james harden is a master of this. haarms is doing the same thing. again, i see how it looks when the video is played in regular motion, but taking it frame by frame makes it clear that haarms is trying to pull one over on the officials.

and what haarms does here doing happens multiple times in every game. players are being taught what is essentially cheating. and this cheating tactic is not unlike flopping. flopping should be penalized, too. the problem is that the hook-and-hold is so hard to see in real-time. that's why it works so well.

now all of that being said, the biggest issue i see is how repeatedly going to the monitor slows down the game. my guess is the game suffers temporarily as coaches and players stop teaching this shady move and start telling their players to stop doing it.

finally, one way to counter games being drawn out to more than 2 hours is to radically change the end of games. foul-fests do more to create long games than anything else. in football, coaches have the prerogative to reject an opponent's penalty. basketball coaches should have the same right. in the final two minutes of a basketball game, coaches should have the prerogative to take the ball out-of-bounds instead of shooting free throws. this change would greatly disincentivize foul-a-thons that pretty much every close game suffers.

edit: by the way, the play above is especially appropriate. purdue lost haas to injury in last year's tournament. the injury was the result of a hook-and-hold.
 
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Basketball is so freaking unpredictable man. Take even a single opponent lightly and you'll find yourself upset in a heartbeat.

For me, this is the reason I've hated the "lack of energy" the last few years for Thad. They just didn't seem to play with urgency. Coach Holt has definitely instilled that and he showed last night, sitting starters for being late to warm ups, that he wont take any shit from these guys either.
 
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The Big East and A-10 are both looking like they are down this year, which makes it more likely for the B1G and other power conferences to get a larger number of teams in the tournament. AAC also not much at the top.
 
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