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2017 tOSU Offense Discussion

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The receiver screens look like cheap pass completions, but they will help us out in the future. Literally every team we've played since 2014 has thrown out their base defense and gone with the VaTech blueprint. Penn State took it a step further and added the soft zone coverage to limit deep throws and speed option, while betting we couldn't execute short passes. They aren't sexy like deep bombs, but they let us constrain the defense without running Barrett into the ground, and defenses have been begging us to call them for 2 years.

I can't say I'm excited for the rest of the season, but the offense is evolving away from being so qb run centric. If the defense grows up quickly, we might actually have something.
 
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Are we absolutely, positively certain a 2 QB system can't work? I've always said 'no' myself but........man what a storybook season that would be and cement his legendary standing if JT embraced it and somehow it could parlay into a NC run. I realize it's pie in the sky but what an incredible legacy JT could leave if he helped orchestrate that.
 
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woofermazing said:
The receiver screens look like cheap pass completions, but they will help us out in the future. Literally every team we've played since 2014 has thrown out their base defense and gone with the VaTech blueprint. Penn State took it a step further and added the soft zone coverage to limit deep throws and speed option, while betting we couldn't execute short passes. They aren't sexy like deep bombs, but they let us constrain the defense without running Barrett into the ground, and defenses have been begging us to call them for 2 years.

I can't say I'm excited for the rest of the season, but the offense is evolving away from being so qb run centric. If the defense grows up quickly, we might actually have something.
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I'm with you but then I find myself cringing everytime he throws one out there because it takes so damn long.

I have a horrible feeling that WR screen is going to equal Pick 6 against better athletes who have a good key for when it is coming.
 
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I don't mind the quick hits to the flats as confidence boosters and as RPO but you could tell we tried to then test the waters with a few intermediate throws and couldn't capitalize. JT Did ok yesterday but when asked him to go down field a bit he still had the troubles we have seen over the past few years.

Man I can't wait for next week's game because we should no doubt get to see Haskins a lot that day. We need to find out if the QB spot is under performing and only way to find out is to play Haskins to gauge his success.

Will be interesting to see if Haskins comes on and goes nuts like he did his only series last week.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
His arm strength is fine. He just needs to get rid of it quicker
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Maybe semantics but I'd say he could do a better job of mitigating his lack of arm strength by making quicker reads & releases.

Jt does not have better than average arm strength AND he throws late most of the time. That is a bad combination and it reveals itself very clearly in his downfield pass comp %
 
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URBAN MEYER IMPRESSED WITH DWAYNE HASKINS, BUT JOE BURROW COULD STILL BE OHIO STATE'S NO. 2 QUARTERBACK

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The excitement and anticipation surrounding Dwayne Haskins as Ohio State’s potential quarterback of the future – and assertions by some Buckeye fans that Haskins should be Ohio State’s quarterback of the present – have only increased since Haskins completed all four of his passing attempts on Ohio State’s final drive of Saturday’s 38-7 win against Army.

In his first game action as a Buckeye, the redshirt freshman quarterback from Potomac, Md., put his arm talent on display as he completed those four passes for 46 yards. Haskins appeared well on his way to leading the Buckeyes to a touchdown until they decided to take a knee at the 10-yard line and let the game clock expire.

Ohio State coach Urban Meyer was impressed with what he saw from Haskins in his Buckeye debut.

"I thought he played very well," Meyer said Monday. "I wanted to let him keep going but that was my call – I don't want to score at the end there in that game."

One impressive drive at the end of a lopsided game, however, isn’t going to put fourth-year starting quarterback J.T. Barrett in jeopardy of losing his job.

It wasn’t even enough for Haskins to secure the No. 2 quarterback spot on the depth chart.

Haskins has been Barrett’s primary backup at quarterback since redshirt sophomore Joe Burrow – who was Ohio State’s No. 2 quarterback last year – broke a bone in his throwing hand in August. Burrow hasn’t been ready to return to game action yet, but he is close, as he has been healthy enough to throw with the other quarterbacks in warmups before each of the Buckeyes’ last two games.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...w-could-still-be-ohio-states-no-2-quarterback
 
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FILM STUDY: HOW THE BUCKEYES BUILT AN ENTIRE GAME PLAN AROUND BUBBLE SCREEN ACTION

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"I think it is perfect because we have guys like K.J. (Hill) and Parris (Campbell) in the slot who can really make the first guy miss." - Ohio State wide receiver Terry McLaurin.

One needn't have watched all three of Ohio State's first three contests all that closely to recognize that the third was quite different from the first two. Sure, the cadets from West Point ran a unique, option-oriented offense full of pitches to the outside, but the Buckeyes' certainly seemed focused on getting the ball to the edges when they had the ball as well.

Though virtually every aspect of Urban Meyer's offense was criticized last week (except for his ability to recruit running backs), the home team in the Horseshoe came out with aggression on their opening drive, stressing the perimeter on every single play. Of course, that eight-play, 75-yard drive included five runs between the tackles and was capped by a J.T. Barrett trot into the end zone, but the plan had been clearly laid by the OSU coaching staff for all to see as the young receiving corps in scarlet and gray was about to have a big day.

After repeatedly running into a stacked box the week prior against Oklahoma, Meyer entrusted coordinator Kevin Wilson and QB coach Ryan Day to stretch the defense with Run-Pass Options (RPOs), which often came as simple 'relief' routes outside added to the existing run concepts already installed in the playbook. Every single play on the opening drive was an RPO of some sort, and the result was an offense that moved the ball at will.

Much like the triple option we saw from Army all afternoon, there is no pre-determined path for the football on these plays, as Barrett often had three places to send it. If the first defender he read stayed home, then the ball was handed off since the Buckeyes would have a numerical blocking advantage. If that defender attacks the run, Barrett then has the option to run outside or throw a bubble screen to the slot receiver.



Those slot receivers, Parris Campbell and K.J. Hill, would be busy catching screens all day long, hauling in 14 balls for 128 yards. While neither had seemed to find much rhythm catching the football downfield in the first two games of 2017, this catch-and-run mentality is perfectly suited to their skill sets as athletes that can make tacklers miss in the open field.

The best way to set up a bubble screen is with three receivers to the same side, meaning this Bubble-Screen RPO can become predictable, especially when the back is to that same side of the quarterback. If that's the case, then the defense can easily roll to one side and get enough bodies in both places. But Wilson was ready, sending jet-motion from even formations and not allowing the defense to get the needed numbers outside.



Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-entire-game-plan-around-bubble-screen-action
 
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That film study article by 11W above is actually pretty good analysis of the offense Saturday and the RPO approach. Wonder if they keep expanding on the formations, plays and wrinkles but use it as the base of the offense going forward. Feels like it fits Barrett's skill set better than what we saw them try to do against Oklahoma.
 
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