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CFB Weekly Thread 2017 CFB Week 4 Open Thread

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Didn't watch the game. Was Iowa that good or were the pedsters underwhelming playing their first team with a pulse?
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My takeaways:
- Barkley is a beast. We knew that, but yea. He's their threat in running and passing.
- If our DBs dont figure out how to turn around and look for the ball it'll be a long day against McSorely - "throw it up and let tall receivers find it" (or beg for the PI)
- Their Oline has major weaknesses
- Doesn't look like a top5 team to me but they got some pieces that could give us problems (Barkley, tall WRs/TEs that dont drop half their targets and make QB look better than he is, QB with a pulse)
- Ferentz' anemic offense and style doesn't make for a very good barometer of PSU defense imo; it plays right into their hands and one side has much better chess pieces.
- Penn State needed a lot of help from the refs ... especially on defense... blatant targeting / late hit, got away with 2 players roughing the kicker, criminal holding every play on the final drive, a lot of contact our DBs can never seem to get away with, etc.

- Iowa plays good solid D and very opportunistic creating turnovers. They should give teams in the West problems and vie for a trip to Indy. If our offense cant beat this style of defense, we have major issues.
- Their corners are tall, they have some good ol' Midwestern kids at LB... the corn-eating kind that everyone says are 3stars then go on to play in the NFL for years as solid nameless contributors.
- Their offense is just humdrum to me. Similar to PSU it's built all around Wadley, but he's not the hero Barkley is.

It'd be amazing if Iowa was before Penn State as a step-up from the Rutgers and UNLVs of the world before a top-10/15 team like PSU. Iowa is the kind of team on the fringe of the top-25.
But alas, it's after PSU. So I'm really only worried about Penn State vs. our D and whether our O comes out the other side of this existential self-discovery navel gazing mode ... if that works out, then we can worry a little about a post-PSU hangover going to Iowa.
 
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kujirakira said:
My takeaways:
- Barkley is a beast. We knew that, but yea. He's their threat in running and passing.
- If our DBs dont figure out how to turn around and look for the ball it'll be a long day against McSorely - "throw it up and let tall receivers find it" (or beg for the PI)
- Their Oline has major weaknesses
- Doesn't look like a top5 team to me but they got some pieces that could give us problems (Barkley, tall WRs/TEs that dont drop half their targets and make QB look better than he is, QB with a pulse)
- Ferentz' anemic offense and style doesn't make for a very good barometer of PSU defense imo; it plays right into their hands and one side has much better chess pieces.
- Penn State needed a lot of help from the refs ... especially on defense... blatant targetintg / late hit, got away with 2 players roughing the kicker, criminal holding every play on the final drive, a lot of contact our DBs can never seem to get away with, etc.

- Iowa plays good solid D and very opportunistic creating turnovers. They should give teams in the West problems and vie for a trip to Indy. If our offense cant beat this style of defense, we have major issues.
- Their corners are tall, they have some good ol' Midwestern kids at LB... the corn-eating kind that everyone says are 3stars then go on to play in the NFL for years as solid nameless contributors.
- Their offense is just humdrum to me. Similar to PSU it's built all around Wadley, but he's not the hero Barkley is.

It'd be amazing if Iowa was before Penn State as a step-up from the Rutgers and UNLVs of the world before a top-10/15 team like PSU. Iowa is the kind of team on the fringe of the top-25.
But alas, it's after PSU. So I'm really only worried about Penn State vs. our D and whether our O comes out the other side of this existential self-discovery navel gazing mode ... if that works out, then we can worry a little about a post-PSU hangover going to Iowa.
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Honestly it reminded me of the PSU game last year. Iowa was getting dominated but PSU wasn't putting points on the board. The difference was they finished the drive with egregious holding while we had JT stand back and get sacked repeatedly. Though both teams had DB's holding receivers left and right.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Didn't watch the game. Was Iowa that good or were the pedsters underwhelming playing their first team with a pulse?
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Iowas defense played textbook bend but don't break until the bitter end. Problem with Joe Moorhead's offense is that it really exploits the seams between the 20s because all receivers have a hot skinny post route if the safeties cheat up to stop the run, and McSorely hits em. That's magnified when you've got a talent like Barkley that can rush and run routes like a receiver.

The downside to Moorhead's offense is that it can't do what it's designed to exploit in the red zone because there is not enough room.

Make your open field tackles and clamp down in the red zone. Iowa did that. Ohio States secondary right now though... I don't know.

Gonna be a tall task. Unfortunately all Ohio States elite DBs are playing on the wrong day of the week this year.
 
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