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2017-2018 B1G Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

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Michigan is basically the same team they are every year under Beilein--a tired, gimmick offense that lives or dies by the 3. When they're hitting, they can beat anyone; and like they showed last night, when they're not hitting, they can get trounced by 20 against a team that was 13-7. Oh, and Wagner is Charmin-soft--watching him get pushed around last night was downright hilarious.
 
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Watching scUM last night reinforced just what a soft program they are under Beilein.

Broken Down as follows:

Yr W-L FGA 3PA %3PA RPG FG% 3P% (Postseason)
2018 16-5 (5-3) 1235 526 42.6 34 .473 .371 (tbd)
2017 26-12 (10-8) 2076 937 45.1 29 .483 .385 (NCAA Sweet 16)
2016 23-13 (10-8) 2048 901 44.0 32 .462 .380 (NCAA 1st Rd)
2015 16-16 (8-10) 1724 696 40.4 30 .426 .359 (N/A)
2014 28-9 (15-3) 1928 771 40.0 31 .481 .406 (NCAA Elite 8)
2013 31-8 (12-6) 2260 769 34.0 35 .484 .385 (NCAA Runner Up)
2012 24-10 (13-5) 1777 788 44.3 31 .455 .350 (NCAA 1st Rd)
2011 21-14 (9-9) 1889 804 42.6 32 .448 .352 (NCAA 2nd Rd)
2010 15-17 (7-11) 1758 760 43.2 31 .416 .299 (N/A)
2009 21-14 (9-9) 1910 912 47.7 31 .425 .334 (NCAA 2nd Rd)
2008 10-22 (5-13) 1779 795 44.7 35 .445 .343 (N/A)
AVG 21-14 (10-8) 1915 813 42.5 32 .450 .357

Couple of take-aways:
- His best teams (2013/2014) depended the least on three pointers (34% of total shots for his NCAA runner up in 2013, 40% for Elite 8 team the following year).
- His teams have always been atrocious at rebounding, averaging just 32 per game over his tenure.
- His teams, on average, chuck up over 2 three point attempts per 5 FG attempts, 42.5%, overall. This year's team is right on that average, 42.6%.
- His first four teams were gawdawful at shooting threes (.332), but still shot threes on 45% of total shots. That's dumb coaching.

Bottom line, his best success has been when he had teams that didn’t rely on a charming-soft, gimmicky offense. What did he do after those two strong seasons? Went right back to the shit that got him a slightly better than .500 record, and outside of a yeoman effort from Walton late last season, they’ve been very mediocre.
 
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after a lot of close losses but no wins in conference, Illinois goes to play a mediocre Wisconsin team aaand...

gets beat by 25.

Illinois fans are miserable. Have to wonder if that was a bit of a back-breaker game for their team as they might have to win out now just to make the NIT.
 
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NFBuck said:
Watching scUM last night reinforced just what a soft program they are under Beilein.

Broken Down as follows:

Yr W-L FGA 3PA %3PA RPG FG% 3P% (Postseason)
2018 16-5 (5-3) 1235 526 42.6 34 .473 .371 (tbd)
2017 26-12 (10-8) 2076 937 45.1 29 .483 .385 (NCAA Sweet 16)
2016 23-13 (10-8) 2048 901 44.0 32 .462 .380 (NCAA 1st Rd)
2015 16-16 (8-10) 1724 696 40.4 30 .426 .359 (N/A)
2014 28-9 (15-3) 1928 771 40.0 31 .481 .406 (NCAA Elite 8)
2013 31-8 (12-6) 2260 769 34.0 35 .484 .385 (NCAA Runner Up)
2012 24-10 (13-5) 1777 788 44.3 31 .455 .350 (NCAA 1st Rd)
2011 21-14 (9-9) 1889 804 42.6 32 .448 .352 (NCAA 2nd Rd)
2010 15-17 (7-11) 1758 760 43.2 31 .416 .299 (N/A)
2009 21-14 (9-9) 1910 912 47.7 31 .425 .334 (NCAA 2nd Rd)
2008 10-22 (5-13) 1779 795 44.7 35 .445 .343 (N/A)
AVG 21-14 (10-8) 1915 813 42.5 32 .450 .357

Couple of take-aways:
- His best teams (2013/2014) depended the least on three pointers (34% of total shots for his NCAA runner up in 2013, 40% for Elite 8 team the following year).
- His teams have always been atrocious at rebounding, averaging just 32 per game over his tenure.
- His teams, on average, chuck up over 2 three point attempts per 5 FG attempts, 42.5%, overall. This year's team is right on that average, 42.6%.
- His first four teams were gawdawful at shooting threes (.332), but still shot threes on 45% of total shots. That's dumb coaching.

Bottom line, his best success has been when he had teams that didn’t rely on a charming-soft, gimmicky offense. What did he do after those two strong seasons? Went right back to the [Mark May] that got him a slightly better than .500 record, and outside of a yeoman effort from Walton late last season, they’ve been very mediocre.
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Been saying that for years. Being a scheme coach isn't bad enough, he recruits kids that aren't good at running his scheme (chuck 3's in volume).

GBYBMYMSOB
 
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