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2015 Offense Discussion

I recall Urban's offenses at Florida threatening the perimeter more. I also recall a bit more of the triple option/shovel option as well.

I get that the weather was no where near ideal in the first half and its a bit risky, but I refuse to believe a few well timed fly sweeps couldn't have at least stopped Sparty from pinching their line down
and daring us to beat them outside.

Florida definitely attacked the perimeter more, but mainly under Dan Mullen. Addazio tried to replicate the Mullen success, but could never do it nor could they find the right mix of personnel and continually shuffled QBs and skill players. The OSU offense in its current setup is gear to power running, which explains 3 1,000 yard backs in a row. It hasn't been designed to match players 1 on 1 in space. It also doesn't appear to utilize all the spread concepts and mid range passes or misdirection. Urban Meyer claims he doesn't run a "system" and was apparently hell bent on proving that this year. He's also never thrown his assistants under the bus, which also seems to include changing the offensive strategy mid year.

I haven't changed my stance from back in October.

tOSU @ Indiana, Sat 10/3 @ 3:30p ET, ABC/ESPN2
 
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After a few days to ruminate, I'm still baffled. It was not completely unexpected for the offense to crater given the way it's looked for most of the season, but that in and of itself is just shocking. I didn't expect them to score 60 points a game and win every week by 4-5 touchdowns...but I did expect production similar to last year given the returning talent. Relative to expectations this has been the least fun season I can remember. The inability or unwillingness to adjust to what the defense is giving you or to throw the ball vertically or even to stick with what's working...

I'm sure there's more, but only two games pop to the top of my head where I felt the offense was as inept and impotent and unlikely to do anything as I felt on Saturday: Michigan State in 2011 and Florida in 2007.
 
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After a few days to ruminate, I'm still baffled. It was not completely unexpected for the offense to crater given the way it's looked for most of the season, but that in and of itself is just shocking. I didn't expect them to score 60 points a game and win every week by 4-5 touchdowns...but I did expect production similar to last year given the returning talent. Relative to expectations this has been the least fun season I can remember. The inability or unwillingness to adjust to what the defense is giving you or to throw the ball vertically or even to stick with what's working...

I'm sure there's more, but only two games pop to the top of my head where I felt the offense was as inept and impotent and unlikely to do anything as I felt on Saturday: Michigan State in 2011 and Florida in 2007.

I thought you said "urinate" not "ruminate"

:lol:
 
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Interesting article on 11W on the offense's woes. Not trying to defend Beck at all, but cites other missteps such as JT missing reads and missed blocks, to name a few.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...es-offensive-struggles-against-michigan-state
He missed Braxton and he did miss a few reads... but other than he miss to Braxton none of those miss reads were back breakers. It's on Beck to get these QBS not to miss read things yet they've happened a ton this year
 
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Reactionary Offensive Changes Cost Ohio State its 2015 Dreams

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Saturday afternoon, the Ohio State offense finally looked like the juggernaut it was expected to be all season in a victory over rivals Michigan.

Against a top-ranked defense, the Buckeyes put up 42 points and registered 482 total yards. The flow of the offense seemed to be in the rhythm of a year ago in the final game of the regular season.

Credit to this change was given to co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach Ed Warinner’s move from sideline to the press box to call plays directly with quarterbacks coach Tim Beck.

“We had to make a move,” head coach Urban Meyer said. “We were not getting that game called.”

The week previous, the Buckeye offense was stuck in the mud, scoring only 14 points and registering 132 total yards in a 17-14 home loss to Michigan State. This performance prompted Meyer to make the move and put his two offensive coordinators in the box, but it wasn’t the first signs of offensive issues.

In the first three home games of the season, the OSU offense seemed out of sorts, averaging just 32 points per game in non-conference contests that are supposed to be stat compliers.

The reason for that was blamed on quarterback Cardale Jones, who was eventually benched for J.T. Barrett. While the offense ran more smoothly in Barrett’s first start against Rutgers, the issues weren’t fixed, but nothing was changed.

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Warinner remained on the sideline with Beck calling plays from above as the offense scored just 28 points in back-to-back games ahead of welcoming the Spartans to Columbus, but it was the loss that forced the hand.

“We talked about it all the time,” Warinner said. “Just how to manage five guys and manage an offense from the press box is somewhat hard. We made a decision and realized that we needed to do something different for this one and we did.”

Talked about it, but didn’t do anything.

Standing on the sidelines allows easy communication with players, but makes it difficult to see what’s going on in the game. Having Ohio State’s two play callers in the press box, along with Meyer down below, allowed plays to come in quicker because both coaches had a better view of what needed to be called.

“Part of playing fast is what’s the next call,” Warinner explained. “Well is it second and 10 or is it second and five? Is it third and two or is it second and eight? The situations, you see them. You don’t have to wait for someone to tell you then process. You just see it all and go.”
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The question remains, why did this not happen earlier for Ohio State?

The Scarlet and Gray played three games this season where the offense compared to last year and other changes were made, but this decision was held until the end of the year, when things were too late.

The nation expected Ohio State’s offense to come alive against Michigan State and finally live up to expectations. Instead it played its worst performance in years and likely cost OSU a chance to accomplish the team’s goals this year.

Too little too late for the Buckeyes.

Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...nsive-Changes-Cost-Ohio-State-its-2015-Dreams
 
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ED WARINNER'S MOVE TO PRESS BOX YIELDS HUGE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT FOR OHIO STATE AGAINST MICHIGAN, BUT COACHING LOCATION MOVING FORWARD UNKNOWN

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Ed Warinner knew exactly when he and Ohio State's offense were going to be able to do pretty much whatever they wanted against Michigan.

"Right when we drove down and scored the first time we felt like, you could see and feel it and we got some rhythm going," Ohio State's offensive line coach and offensive coordinator said after the Buckeyes trounced Michigan, 42-13, Saturday in Ann Arbor.

Warinner's referring to Ohio State's second drive of the game against the Wolverines, when the Buckeye offense capitalized on a roughing the punter penalty to drive 94 yards in seven plays to take a 7-0 lead on quarterback J.T. Barrett's 7-yard touchdown run.

"We did a lot of tempo, all the tight zone and gap scheme plays," left tackle Taylor Decker said, referring to the offense's 482-yard day against Michigan. "It just wears the defense out. Our game plan wasn't very complicated, but it was high execution."

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ensive-output-for-ohio-state-against-michigan
 
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Yeeaaaa, thanks Beck! :horse:

https://ohiostate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1834635

Perfect Storm

These shortcomings came to a head against Michigan State. The Spartans' cover 4 defense aggressively commits the overhang linebacker and safeties against the run. But Ohio State did not exploit the resulting weaknesses. They instead suffered from the same season-long problems. And in so doing they played directly to the strengths of Michigan State's defense.

These problems were on display in both the run and pass game. The Buckeyes ran power with Elliott on their first scoring drive. But they reverted to tight zone the next drive. They did not run power again.

Similarly, Ohio State threw a quick crossing route to Jalin Marshall early. But hitches and slants to Thomas - or throws to the middle of the field - were largely absent. Nor did Meyer's staff stick with the wide receiver screens that were potentially open.

And the Buckeyes barely attempted to create explosive passes by putting the Spartan safeties in run/pass conflict with throws to the deep middle. Ohio State had a single second quarter attempt where Barrett overshot Braxton Miller on a post route. Yet the Buckeyes did not attempt such a throw again.

Instead, Ohio State largely relied upon Barrett on designed runs. But running the quarterback could not re-equate numbers when Michigan State did not expect the Buckeyes to throw and could apply an unblocked safety.
 
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In Ross Fulton's latest breakdown he mentions how the lack of length on the offensive line limited their ability to pass block. I'm looking forward to getting some bigger, longer guys in there (that's what she said) as we start playing all the 6'5", 6'6", 6'7" etc guys we've recruited recently.
 
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Never thought of that tanner and I agree... look Boren is a good player but I feel that Elflien is your more typical center bodily wise.

That'd be bad ass if Federal or Bowen were right tackle and Prince went to left tackld. That'd be both tackles over 6'7"
 
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