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2013 Preseason and regular polls

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cincibuck said:
Yeah, that's why I opened with the caveat about "not disagreeing." We're basically on the right page. For whatever reason, the media WANTS Oregon to do well, maybe even WANTS the last BCS NCG to go to Oregon and 'Bama. Super easy to hype - speed vs power, spread vs pocket T, traditional dickheads vs non-traditional dickheads.
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As opposed to speed vs power, spread vs pocket T, traditional dickheads vs traditional dickheads?
 
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cincibuck said:
Yeah, even when it's YSU or FAMU - which would, of course, have taken the Bucks out of at least one BCS bowl and threatens this year's run for the NCG.
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I kind of forgot about FAMU honestly, but I was mostly referencing teams that consistently schedule FCS year in and year out. Not that they don't deserve to be #1 because of what they've achieved on the field, but theres absolutely no reason Alabama needs to schedule 2 FCS teams in one season. That's absurd. If they're really the best team, they shouldn't have to water down their out of conference schedule so badly. Aside from VT who has been down for a few years, they play Colorado State out of conference, Georgia State, and Chattanooga. When you consider how top heavy the SEC is, Alabama's only real competition in their division comes from LSU, Auburn or maybe Arkansas until recent years, and now the addition of Texas A&M (Who was supposed to be offered as another sacrifice). To make matters worse, they've scheduled Bye weeks before the A&M and LSU games, as if Saban can't win without 2 weeks to prepare.
 
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ulukinatme said:
I kind of forgot about FAMU honestly, but I was mostly referencing teams that consistently schedule FCS year in and year out. Not that they don't deserve to be #1 because of what they've achieved on the field, but theres absolutely no reason Alabama needs to schedule 2 FCS teams in one season. That's absurd. If they're really the best team, they shouldn't have to water down their out of conference schedule so badly. Aside from VT who has been down for a few years, they play Colorado State out of conference, Georgia State, and Chattanooga. When you consider how top heavy the SEC is, Alabama's only real competition in their division comes from LSU, Auburn or maybe Arkansas until recent years, and now the addition of Texas A&M (Who was supposed to be offered as another sacrifice). To make matters worse, they've scheduled Bye weeks before the A&M and LSU games, as if Saban can't win without 2 weeks to prepare.
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SEC schedules smart. The BIG does not. That Chatta game is on NOV 23rd. They get a cupcake the same day half of the BIG will lose a game no matter what. Auburn and Bama seem to always have a bye or a cupcake before they meet up.
 
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No longer are we in the era of "just keep winning and it will take care of itself." With such parity in football the Buckeyes could easily get shut out of the NCG. If we go undefeated this season we will be riding a 25 game win streak and it would be impossible to turn down that publicity.

The game has changed. Teams from the Pac12, BIG, and Big 12 need to schedule big games in the OOC early on to stay atop in the polls. Also, the norm of a blow out is no longer in the 40s but now in the 60-70s. If your QB isn't putting up 350 yards and 3-4 TDs in the OOC, he just isn't performing at a championship level (according to the pundits). Is it fair? Nope, but its reality. Every team in the top 10 has to have a Heisman type player making plays in every game if they want to get noticed and stay in the mind of the pollsters.

5-6 years ago, a 42-7 smackdown using a backup QB would have made more headlines (as it shows just how deep and dangerous the Buckeyes are). Now its seen as under-performance because we couldn't crack 10 TDs, and Braxton wasn't putting on a clinic. Its not seen as a strategically greatness that our back up had a hell of a day, its seen as a weakness for whatever reason the talking heads can come up with. Its going to be a season to not root for upsets in the BIG, but to hope the inter-conference foes that are ranked stay ranked and that the SEC elite underperform and beat up on each other.

Its not about where YOUR team is ranked to start the season, its all about where your CONFERENCE teams are ranked to start the season!
 
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ulukinatme said:
:no: Apparently convincing wins against FCS teams are enough to pass over others in the AP these days.
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Team A:

Utilizes 5 RB's and 2 QB's to amass 263 yards on the ground and TDs. They use a back up QB the entire game to account for over 230 yards and 3 TDs. They show depth at two very crucial positions the entire game and win in a convincing fashion by 35 points over an FBS opponent.


Team B:

Beats up on a lowly FCS (D2) opponent by 34 points. They have an incredibly defunct running game with 4 rushers touching the ball for less than 80 yards. The only saving grace is that their Heisman campaigning QB goes 400 yards passing and 4 TDs. They show no depth, allow 12 first downs, and will begin conference play in which their toughest opponent is Cincy (who just lost their starting QB for the year).


Team A (OSU) moves down, Team B (Louisville) moves up.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
Team A:

Utilizes 5 RB's and 2 QB's to amass 263 yards on the ground and TDs. They use a back up QB the entire game to account for over 230 yards and 3 TDs. They show depth at two very crucial positions the entire game and win in a convincing fashion by 35 points over an FBS opponent.


Team B:

Beats up on a lowly FCS (D2) opponent by 34 points. They have an incredibly defunct running game with 4 rushers touching the ball for less than 80 yards. The only saving grace is that their Heisman campaigning QB goes 400 yards passing and 4 TDs. They show no depth, allow 12 first downs, and will begin conference play in which their toughest opponent is Cincy (who just lost their starting QB for the year).


Team A moves down, Team B moves up.
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Exactly. If you're going to apply a dumb arbitrary set of rules, apply them consistently across the board.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
I have no problem with Oregon being ranked ahead of us right now. IMO they're better than we are RIGHT NOW. Clemson jumping us is pretty stupid though.
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Based on what? Nicholls State? Virginia?

They have played teams that are just as bad as the ones we have played - if not worse with Nicholls State.

They have a RB corps just as good as ours and a starting QB that makes the same plays as Braxton has the ability to make. The only difference is that right now Oregon is flashy and making highlight reel type plays. I would say through two games the teams are a wash and Oregon had no business jumping us unless there was solid reasoning.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
Based on what? Nicholls State? Virginia?

They have played teams that are just as bad as the ones we have played - if not worse with Nicholls State.

They have a RB corps just as good as ours and a starting QB that makes the same plays as Braxton has the ability to make. The only difference is that right now Oregon is flashy and making highlight reel type plays. I would say through two games the teams are a wash and Oregon had no business jumping us unless there was solid reasoning.
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No, not Nicholls State; Virginia. 59-10 on the road against an ACC opponent (even if not a good opponent) is much more impressive than what we've done at home against mid-tier conference opponents. If we go out to Cal and do the same thing (beat up on a crummy PAC-12 opponent on the road), THEN I would say otherwise. But after this past week I don't see an issue with it.

But who cares, it's the second week of the season.
 
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Injuries and suspensions noted, Ohio State really hasn't fielded their best team yet. So, it's not surprising that they have played at least two uninspiring halves of football.

However, pollsters have to think about the fact that Ohio State has played two really bad teams, that are both ranked outside the top 100. California isn't much better. So, it says something that Ohio State probably goes into the game only a two touchdown favorite against a team that had to rally to beat Portland State and lost by 14 to Northwestern.

Ohio State needs to be making style points in the human polls now, for later when the BCS Championship game is set, because the B1G is perceived to be so weak. They need to absolutely, positively blow someone out.

If you're watching the computers by the way, the B1G is doing better so far this year. Better than the ACC, catching the PAC12. A solid win against Cal and some Cal victories against better ranked PAC12 opponents later in the season will help that.
 
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The one big advantage we have over most teams is depth. As the season wears on teams will suffer injuries and drop down. Teams with depth will continue to win and climb. The very last week of the season always gets crazy and much happens in the last weekend of college football.

And people forget the AP Poll does not count in the BCS Poll! The AP Poll means nothing!
 
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