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2011 TSUN shenanigans and arguments (off season)

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HailToMichigan;1946461; said:
Regardless, if you're trying to get me to feel shame about my own (or my own fanbase's) supposed obsession with OSU
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I don't think you need me to point out any shame that you should feel about your program. After the last three years I'm sure you can find enough of that on your own.

HailToMichigan;1946461; said:
I never said "we're not obsessed but you are," just pointed out the irony of denying obsession with Michigan in a 59- (now 60) page thread devoted to the topic.
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And I pointed out to you the irony that 20% of the actual posts, and very probably well over 50% of the conversation in this thread on an Ohio State message board is derived directly from Michigan fans.

Either way, I'm not being as combative as you probably think I am. Perhaps I should use more smiley faces to convey more lightheartedness in my responses. :p
 
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HailToMichigan;1946463; said:
Yeah, I've noticed a few people saying as such, thanks. That being the likely case, why didn't that happen in the first place? When the NCAA vacates games, they don't say "well they would've only been suspended for five games, so that's all we'll vacate." They sweep it all clean. Ask Bobby Bowden.
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and how is this relevant to how m*ch*gan has or would have fared against ohio state?
 
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HailToMichigan;1946463; said:
Yeah, I've noticed a few people saying as such, thanks. That being the likely case, why didn't that happen in the first place? When the NCAA vacates games, they don't say "well they would've only been suspended for five games, so that's all we'll vacate." They sweep it all clean. Ask Bobby Bowden.
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Vacating wins is the penalty for JT not disclosing that he had knowledge of a "possible violation". If he discloses, there is no vacating wins. Two completely different topics. You seem to want both scenarios...playing ohio state without the tat 5 and then vacating OSU's win after we kick your ass all over the field without them.
 
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if you want someone to tap into the minds of Michigan fans, Captain Planet ain't your guy.
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Captain Obvious.
HailToMichigan;1946429; said:
I'll do him lots better. Your counter there used to be an honest-to-god source of irratation to Michigan fans, but not any more. Why? Because we know for a fact that it happened last year with an uneven playing field: ineligible players, and that Tressel knew it. Which of course opens the question in folks' minds about how many other times the playing field wasn't level, either. NCAA penalties aside, I'd say the #1 intangible result of the shitstorm is that Michigan fans really did used to grit their teeth and say "we gotta get rid of that counter" and now, honestly, nobody cares.
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Please. After two years of extolling RR's character, you disappeared after MSU sent UM into a tailspin in 09 (they went 1-7 after your last post) because Michigan was reduced to Indiana for three years (when they had no business sinking that low).

This coping mechanism is as desperate as it is rampant (about 80% of the GBW $ threads this spring were about OSU).

By your logic, all of the other Cooper chokes vs UM no longer count because Woodson's agent benefits in 97 raise questions about how many other times the playing field wasn't level.

Here in the real world, OSU underachieved in the 90s & UM in the 00s, particularly against their rival.

Here in the real world, there are top players having illegal relationships with agents and getting kick backs signing memorabilia for resellers. Just like there are guys with drinking/drug/discipline incidents that get swept under the rug or handled internally. It stinks, but it's the reality of CFB.

When they surface, it's certainly fair game to hound that team for it, but this "well your wins no longer count because you were probably cheating all along" noise is laughable and naive.
 
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i'm obsessed with osu......obsessed in rooting against them. I'll admit it and I don't care who knows it. But I also do my best to be respectful on their boards as well. They've got great and passionate fans, and like every other school in the nation, pockets of morons. Michigan included.

and this was post 120 in this thread by me, apparantly.....:lol:
 
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Tlangs;1946473; said:
Vacating wins is the penalty for JT not disclosing that he had knowledge of a "possible violation". If he discloses, there is no vacating wins. Two completely different topics. You seem to want both scenarios...playing ohio state without the tat 5 and then vacating OSU's win after we kick your ass all over the field without them.
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You're right: if he discloses, there's no vacating wins because the players serve their penalties and the ineligibility is wiped clean. They don't vacate as punishment for nondisclosure, the punishment for nondisclosure is whatever scholarship and/or postseason bans are handed out. If a player's ineligible, he's ineligible til the situation is remedied, not until he "would have" been eligible if it were brought to light when it should have. And they vacate every game the player played in. I don't see where the topics are different.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;1946458; said:
you sure aren't the brightest bulb on this board. did you know that the ohio state-m*ch*gan game is played in late november? as stated, suspensions would have ended weeks and weeks before the game.

let's also not forget that your staff was found cheating in such a manner as to gain a competitive advantage. sure, it wasn't an extreme form of cheating. obviously. your program has sucked. nonetheless, it opens the questions in folks' minds about how many other times the playing field wasn't level, either.


by the way, how level was the playing field in these games?:

scum 20 versus (6-7) msu 26
scum 13 versus (3-9) illinois 38
scum 36 versus (5-7) purdue 38
scum 20 versus (5-7) illinois 45
scum 10 versus (3-9) toledo 13
scum 42 versus (4-8) purdue 48
scum 32 versus (division 2) appy state 34

heck, let's include these outstanding "victories":

scum 42 versus (division 2) massachusetts 37
scum 42 versus (5-7) indiana 35
scum 36 versus (4-8) indiana 33
scum 16 versus (2-10) miami of ohio 6




recognize that you root for a program that has been beaten down by a bunch of really bad programs and has narrowly escaped victory against even more really bad programs. with a squad of walk-ons, ohio state would have beaten your skunkbears.
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QFT
 
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HailToMichigan;1946503; said:
You're right: if he discloses, there's no vacating wins because the players serve their penalties and the ineligibility is wiped clean. They don't vacate as punishment for nondisclosure, the punishment for nondisclosure is whatever scholarship and/or postseason bans are handed out. If a player's ineligible, he's ineligible til the situation is remedied, not until he "would have" been eligible if it were brought to light when it should have. And they vacate every game the player played in. I don't see where the topics are different.
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And scUM still hasn't beaten Ohio State in over 2700 days.
 
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