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2011 NCAA Tournament Projections/Bracketology

Good stats, again, I'm not discrediting SDSU, they're a good team, just saying I don't feel they are a legit top 10 team. Compare those numbers to other teams in the top 10, 15, 20 and 25. RPI has 9/11 BIG 10 teams in the RPI top 100, and 5 in the top 50. The Big East has 9 in the top 33!

But, forget Saragin and RPI, and look at straight top 25... as an RPI 100 doesn't mean much when half those teams don't even make the tournament. SDSU had 2 opprotunities to show they are a top tier team in playing BYU, and no matter if they played "close" at times, they lost, both games... by 13. And even at that, BYU's only impressive wins outside of the MWC was a drubbing against U of A and a one point win against St. Marys... not exactaly Kansas, Pitt or Duke.
Well, I appreciate you debating with me. I can't compare a 9-team conference that plays a 16 game conference schedule round robin to a 16 team conference that has an 18 game schedule with no round-robin. A lot more losses to be had for the middle teams in the 9-team conference. In the MWC, BYU and SDSU have inflicted 4 losses to almost every team in their small conference. In the Big East, Pitt and Notre Dame have played every team once (and just a few twice), which is ~2 losses inflicted to almost every team in their huge conference. That just becomes a simple numbers game.

Comparing straight up resumes to a conference of similar size is difficult as the Pac-10 has the numbers, but is actually worse than the Mountain West.

However, I can't look at straight top-25 when it is heavily swayed by voters who are generally in favor of the big conferences and East coast. I'd prefer to dive slightly deeper than that in my analysis.

RPI is at least not-biased by time-zone and instead by SOS and winning %, and Sagarin's formulas (which are kept slightly secret) are some of the best predictors of future outcomes in sports statistics.

BYU (with Davies) is 7-1 against Sagarin's top-50 (of course they are 7-3 against the top-51 as New Mexico is sitting at #51) and has one of the most impressive resumes of any team that isn't OSU or Kansas. This isn't the Big East which is bloated with a huge number of good teams that beat each other up and are excited to just go .500 in conference play; as such, any comparison between the MWC and the Big East and most of the other 12-team conferences isn't going to get very far. Its useful for my outlook to look at some stats that try to curb the level of bias and "level the playing field".

SDSU is 4-2 vs. top-50, 6-2 if you include New Mexico (who sits at the #51 spot). And against the top-68 (who should theoretically make up the NCAA tourney field) they are 10-2. Compare that with Texas who is 7-3 vs. the top-50 and 7-5 (by my count) against the top-68. I used 68 as my number instead of top-100 because you said that there are lots of teams in the top-100 that don't make the tournament of 68.

SDSU (and most mid-majors) is limited in how many AP poll top-25 teams they even have access to match-up against and they did a good job of playing a solid/strong non-conference against Wichita State, California, Gonzaga, St. Mary's. I'm not saying SDSU needs the #1 seed. I am saying that they are more than just solid.

You may be slightly in favor of the power, BCS conferences in general and view the MWC as weak, in which case, I can't really persuade you otherwise but most statistics would agree with me in that the MWC is a really strong conference this year.
 
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Maybe a dumb question: are NCAA tourney games available live for free online? CBSSports.com, NCAA.com, etc? We are trying to determine our options for showing games here for staff during work, and some of our potential viewing rooms only have internet, no cable.
 
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They used to be online for free, but now that all games are on TV nationwide (on 4 networks) I doubt they will be streaming them for free online now.

Of course, sites like atdhe.tv are still out there.
 
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Jake;1885159; said:
They used to be online for free, but now that all games are on TV nationwide (on 4 networks) I doubt they will be streaming them for free online now.

Of course, sites like atdhe.tv are still out there.

Nope, still available online for free. In fact, it was announced a couple weeks ago that it'll be free on iPhones and iPads this year as well. They had charged for MMOD on mobile devices last year.
 
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jlb1705;1885163; said:
Nope, still available online for free. In fact, it was announced a couple weeks ago that it'll be free on iPhones and iPads this year as well. They had charged for MMOD on mobile devices last year.

Wow, 4 networks and free online. The "demand" must be out of this world to be able to offer that kind of coverage.

Of course, they did bid a few billion for the rights to it, so...

...got curious and found a site showing ad revenues for the tournament have doubled the last 10 years, and that's just on tv. Online revenue has grown 1000% since 2006.

http://kantarmediana.com/insight-center/insight-briefs/march-madness-advertising-trends-report
 
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Nope, still available online for free. In fact, it was announced a couple weeks ago that it'll be free on iPhones and iPads this year as well. They had charged for MMOD on mobile devices last year.
nice to hear.....for some stupid reason I paid their ridiculous fee so I could watch on my ipod, when I was within reach of my laptop at all times.
 
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Okay, now I know the guy doing this is an idiot. Forget that he did it before Illinois lost yesterday, even if they won there's no way the committee puts any Big Ten team in the 8/9 opposite us. They work to avoid conference match ups in the first two rounds and have for years.

Cleveland
1OHIO ST
16BETHUNE-COOKMAN / 16MCNEESE ST

8George Mason
9Illinois

Tucson
5Texas A&M
12Clemson

4Connecticut
13BUCKNELL

Washington DC
6Kansas St
11Saint Mary's

3Syracuse
14LONG ISLAND

Charlotte
7Temple
10Tennessee

2Duke
15ST. PETER'S

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
 
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Jake;1888773; said:
Okay, now I know the guy doing this is an idiot. Forget that he did it before Illinois lost yesterday, even if they won there's no way the committee puts any Big Ten team in the 8/9 opposite us. They work to avoid conference match ups in the first two rounds and have for years.

Cleveland
1OHIO ST
16BETHUNE-COOKMAN / 16MCNEESE ST

8George Mason
9Illinois

Tucson
5Texas A&M
12Clemson

4Connecticut
13BUCKNELL

Washington DC
6Kansas St
11Saint Mary's

3Syracuse
14LONG ISLAND

Charlotte
7Temple
10Tennessee

2Duke
15ST. PETER'S

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

OSU, Duke, Cuse, and Uconn all in same bracket as 1-4? That's not a friendly bracket...yikes.
 
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Magua;1888784; said:
OSU, Duke, Cuse, and Uconn all in same bracket as 1-4? That's not a friendly bracket...yikes.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Our supposed regional advantage would probably become the exact opposite if those four teams made the regional semis. Duke, Cuse and UConn would likely have great draws coming in from NYC and Jersey.
 
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Jake;1888773; said:
Okay, now I know the guy doing this is an idiot. Forget that he did it before Illinois lost yesterday, even if they won there's no way the committee puts any Big Ten team in the 8/9 opposite us. They work to avoid conference match ups in the first two rounds and have for years.

Cleveland
1OHIO ST
16BETHUNE-COOKMAN / 16MCNEESE ST

8George Mason
9Illinois

Tucson
5Texas A&M
12Clemson

4Connecticut
13BUCKNELL

Washington DC
6Kansas St
11Saint Mary's

3Syracuse
14LONG ISLAND

Charlotte
7Temple
10Tennessee

2Duke
15ST. PETER'S

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Magua;1888784; said:
OSU, Duke, Cuse, and Uconn all in same bracket as 1-4? That's not a friendly bracket...yikes.

NorthCoastKid;1888787; said:
I was thinking the same exact thing. Our supposed regional advantage would probably become the exact opposite if those four teams made the regional semis. Duke, Cuse and UConn would likely have great draws coming in from NYC and Jersey.

Remember how jacked up the 1-4 seeds were last year? This projected clusterfuck seems entirely plausible in light of that. I fully expect Ohio State to be given the nominal No. 1 overall seed, but for Duke to be given the easiest path to Houston.
 
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CBS tools grilling Gene Smith about "Tresselgate" when he's there to talk about the selection process. Seth Davis needs to STFU and stick to hoops.
 
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Jake;1889762; said:
This looks more plausible than yesterday's version.

Cleveland
1Ohio St
16ALABAMA ST / 16HAMPTON

8UCLA
9OLD DOMINION

Washington DC
5Texas A&M
12MEMPHIS

4Syracuse
13PRINCETON

Tampa
6UNLV
11Illinois

3Florida
14LONG ISLAND

Washington DC
7Temple
10Florida St

2Connecticut
15ST. PETER'S

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

UConn a 2-seed? They won the Big East tourney, but doesn't the regular season count for something? They were a 9-seed in their own conference, but somehow a 5-8 seed for the entire country? That's the height of Big East overratedness.

In spite of my objection to the seeding I'd love to see a Walker-Singleton matchup, if Singleton can make it back by then.
 
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