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Well, I suppose that you could look at it that way ... but giving up 24 points for an entire season is still a Hell of a lot.MUBuck;1769089; said:
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MUBuck
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LordJeffBuck;1769090; said:
No arguments here. Just want to point out that as bad as our kick/punt coverage has been, our return game has been much improved from past years. No consolation for our horrendous overall play in ST, but at least we've improved somewhere. Have a good feeling that Berry and Hall break a few TD's this season.
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Mac
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MUBuck;1769108; said:
Most definitely. If you tackle the guy even after a long return, there's still a chance of the team not getting any points. You take away those two ST TD's by Miami yesterday, we hold them to 10 points at best, or 16. That looks much better than 24.
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So what's the solution to the kick coverage problems?
I'll admit I'm ignorant about that part of the team at this point. Who's playing on these units? Mostly upperclassmen? Freshmen & sophomores? Mostly in the 2-deep?
Do they need to replace "experienced" upperclassmen with better athletes? Do they need to replace a few guys who are a little green or not mentally focused? Do they need to play more talent on kick coverage - guys who are good enough to be in the rotation at their regular position? Do they need to spend more time in practice?
I'm worried like I've never been before when Ohio State has to kick the ball. They haven't lost a game because of it, but they've come close or made the game more interesting than it should've been... vs. Iowa and Oregon last year, and last week vs. Miami.
I'll admit I'm ignorant about that part of the team at this point. Who's playing on these units? Mostly upperclassmen? Freshmen & sophomores? Mostly in the 2-deep?
Do they need to replace "experienced" upperclassmen with better athletes? Do they need to replace a few guys who are a little green or not mentally focused? Do they need to play more talent on kick coverage - guys who are good enough to be in the rotation at their regular position? Do they need to spend more time in practice?
I'm worried like I've never been before when Ohio State has to kick the ball. They haven't lost a game because of it, but they've come close or made the game more interesting than it should've been... vs. Iowa and Oregon last year, and last week vs. Miami.
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OSUScoonie12
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I know for kickoff, they are mostly 2-deep type of players. No idea about punt team. Maybe we need to start doing what other teams around the country are doing, and using our best athletes on kickoff and punt coverage, which would mean using starters. I'm sure Tressel doesn't like this because of the possibility of injuries, but something needs to be done. If we don't have this under control before the B10 season starts, we are going to get eaten alive on special teams. If these 2-deep guys can't get the job done, we are going to have to use our fast/talented defensive players...or even a WR or two.
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cjmik_75
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Copied from the game thread:
There has been discussion about the officiating but one non-call in particular leaves me shaking my head, literally. I still don't see how an entire officiating crew can miss a block in the back happen directly in front of the returner...I guess not one of them saw this block take out two players right in front of the play!
I am the first to admit the ST needs work but the implication of non-calls like this and non-calls for horse collar tackling can get players injured which just makes me think these officials in saturdays game had no regard whatsoever for player safety. Is there an officiating review done of CFB games like the NFL?
ACC refs = FAIL.
There has been discussion about the officiating but one non-call in particular leaves me shaking my head, literally. I still don't see how an entire officiating crew can miss a block in the back happen directly in front of the returner...I guess not one of them saw this block take out two players right in front of the play!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYIdDgldmE"]YouTube - Block in the back[/ame]
I am the first to admit the ST needs work but the implication of non-calls like this and non-calls for horse collar tackling can get players injured which just makes me think these officials in saturdays game had no regard whatsoever for player safety. Is there an officiating review done of CFB games like the NFL?
ACC refs = FAIL.
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I've said it before; ACC refs are the absolute worst. I used to think that nothing could be worse than some of the Big Ten officiating I've seen; but the ACC refs simply take the cake. I would go so far as to say that last Saturday in the 'Shoe was an above average performance for an ACC crew.
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Brutus1
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It's easy for calls to get missed on kickoffs when there are only 7 officials
and 22 players running full speed. The referee is with the returner, 2 officials
are near the opposite 40 yard line in case of a long return and are 30-40 yards away from the action. That leaves 4 officials to watch 21 players. More calls will get missed on kickoffs than any other type of play.
That return was just the perfect storm of that illegal block taking out 2 guys at once and the kicker was way slow in reacting to where the runner was going.
and 22 players running full speed. The referee is with the returner, 2 officials
are near the opposite 40 yard line in case of a long return and are 30-40 yards away from the action. That leaves 4 officials to watch 21 players. More calls will get missed on kickoffs than any other type of play.
That return was just the perfect storm of that illegal block taking out 2 guys at once and the kicker was way slow in reacting to where the runner was going.
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TS10HTW;1769794; said:
There are actually 2 blocks in the back, though the second one was really "tick tack" I will admit. Watch Sweat (I think) at the top middle of the screen (after he gets back up from a legit block).
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You are probably right, I saw it more as a two handed push, but I can see where you're coming from and it seems to me, a hold would make more sense there than a push in the back.NateG;1770939; said:
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