2010 Big East Football Discussion

[Tonyank]

MW > Big Least

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

At what point do Pitt and Syracuse set up a numbered account in Zurich for Delaney as a last ditch attempt to pull them out of that zombie pit of a conference?

 

[Mike80]

At what point do Pitt and Syracuse set up a numbered account in Zurich for Delaney as a last ditch attempt to pull them out of that zombie pit of a conference?

I don't think they'll need to resort to that. I do think they stand as good a chance as anyone else when the Big Ten expands to 16 teams within the next 4 years or so.

Imagine this: Missouri stays somewhat relevant over that span, Pittsburgh finds a way to maintain itself in the Big Least and Syracuse continues it's awakening from the decade-long coma. The school that will be getting the numbered account for Delaney will be Ntre Ame, who, at the end of the Brian Kelly era in 2013, will have only gone to 1 or 2 bowl games in that time frame.

Just watch.

 

[Muck]

The issue is that out of that group only ND brings enough to the table to cover the added revenue split an additional member would cause for the conference.

 

[BigJim]

Does the BCS require the winner of a BCS conference to be bowl eligible to go to a BCS game? I don't think it can happen this year (the winner not being eligible) but it's pretty damn close.

 

[Magua]

I thought they put a rule in place recently that kept a shitty BCS AQ Conference winner out of a BCS game if they weren't in the top 20/25 of the BCS Standings and their was a non-AQ conference team in the top 6/12 or something? I don't remember the rankings but I could have swore this was done when Pittsburgh and FSU were going to BCS bowls with like 8-5 records while BSU/TCU/Utah/etc were like 12-0/11-1 and missing out.

 

[BayBuck]

I thought they put a rule in place recently that kept a [censored]ty BCS AQ Conference winner out of a BCS game if they weren't in the top 20/25 of the BCS Standings and their was a non-AQ conference team in the top 6/12 or something? I don't remember the rankings but I could have swore this was done when Pittsburgh and FSU were going to BCS bowls with like 8-5 records while BSU/TCU/Utah/etc were like 12-0/11-1 and missing out.

Conference AQ status is determined on a rolling basis, but as of now I believe AQ really means AQ for the Big Six conference champs.

Why do some conferences have automatic qualification (AQ) while others do not?


All 11 conferences competed fairly for an opportunity to earn AQ status. As agreed by all 11 conferences, the results of the 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 regular seasons were evaluated to determine which conferences earned automatic qualification. Three criteria were used: rank of the highest-ranked team, rank of all conference teams and number of teams in the top 25. The six conferences which met that standard are as follows: Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pacific-10-10 and Southeastern. Five of those conferences -- all except the Big East -- have contracts for their champions to participate in BCS bowl games.

The 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons are being evaluated to determine if a seventh conference achieves automatic qualification for the BCS games that will conclude the 2012 and 2013 seasons.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4809793

 

[BB73]

I thought they put a rule in place recently that kept a shitty BCS AQ Conference winner out of a BCS game if they weren't in the top 20/25 of the BCS Standings and their was a non-AQ conference team in the top 6/12 or something? I don't remember the rankings but I could have swore this was done when Pittsburgh and FSU were going to BCS bowls with like 8-5 records while BSU/TCU/Utah/etc were like 12-0/11-1 and missing out.

The Big East winner gets an AQ bid no matter how bad their record or ranking is.

There are two things involved with low rankings. First, if at least one of the 6 AQ teams is ranked lower than 16th, it assures an automatic BCS bid to the highest ranked non-AQ team, as long as that team is between BCS #3 and BCS #12. This rule has been in place for a few years, and I've never understood its logic. If a shitty team gets an automatic bid, let's guarantee a BCS bid to a non-AQ team that could be ranked 10th or 12th, possibly shutting out an at-large AQ-team that didn't win its conference but is ranked 4th or 5th. It's just a very stupid rule they put in to appease the non-AQ schools a few years ago.

The other factor of the low ranking is that every 4 years the automatic bids for the AQ conferences are reviewed. The next review will use the 4-year period of the 08-thru-11 seasons. If the 4-year average of their conference champions is worse than that of a non-AQ league like the Mtn West, the league's AQ status could be revoked. The evaluation also considers the number of teams each league has in the final top-25 each year, and the average ranking of all teams in each league.

Every AQ league is guranteed an AQ bid through the 2013 season. But if the Big East has a terrible year in 2011, like it's having in 2010, they could be in trouble for 2014 and later. That's a big part of why they asked TCU to join them for football only - then TCU's high ranking could be included into the Big East's evaluation criteria for 2008-11, even though they were in the Mtn West those years.

Here is the process to determine if a 7th AQ will be given after the 2011 season:

BCS

Results from the 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 regular seasons will be evaluated to determine whether a seventh conference earns automatic qualification for the 2012-13 and 2013-14 bowl games.
The process is as follows:
* The evaluation includes the following for each conference

(1) Average Ranking of Highest-Ranked Team, the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS Standings each year (if a conference does not place a team in the final BCS Standings, then its highest-ranked team is determined by the conference member that has the highest average ranking in the computer rankings used in the BCS Standings),
(2) Average Conference Ranking, the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year, and
(3) Top 25 Performance Ranking, the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year, with adjustments to account for differences in the number of members of each conference.

A conference will become the seventh automatic qualifier if it finishes among the top six conferences in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 50 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.
* Further, a conference will be eligible to apply to the Presidential Oversight Committee for an exemption if it finishes among the top six in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3, OR

If it finishes among the top seven in either No. 1 or No. 2 and among the top five in the other and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.

No. 3 above, the "Top 25 Performance Rating," will be calculated as follows: Points will be awarded to the conferences based on their teams' finishes in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year. Points will be awarded as follows:

Teams finishing 1-6: 4 points for each team Teams finishing 7-12: 3 points for each team Teams finishing 13-18: 2 points for each team Teams finishing 19-25: 1 point for each team

The point totals will be adjusted to account for the size of the conference, as follows:

Conference membership | Adjustment
12 or more member | no adjustment
10 or 11 members | points increased by 12.5 percent
9 or fewer members | points increased by 25 percent
* The computations will be made according to the conference's membership on Dec. 4, 2011.
If the BCS continues under the same or a similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010 to 2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences without bowl contracts will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons.

 

[Mike80]

The issue is that out of that group only ND brings enough to the table to cover the added revenue split an additional member would cause for the conference.

Ahh but I didn't say the Big Ten would add any of the other 3 teams....just that if that scenario occurs Ntre Ame would get desperate in a hurry...

 

[Dryden]

UConn reports that they have only sold around 4,000 of their 17,500 ticket allotment. Are on the hook for nearly $2.5mm in unsold tickets and hotel packages. Problem is exacerbated by the fact that Oklahoma hasn't sold out their tickets either, so good seats to the Fiesta Bowl are widely available through ticket exchanges such as StubHub for as little as $20.

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/12/15/news/doc4d0803ecabb12514827842.txt?viewmode=fullstory

NO BOWL BONANZA FOR UCONN: Football team's trip to Arizona brings prestige, but could cost school a bundle

STORRS ? A common misconception with college football bowl games is that simply qualifying is akin to winning the jackpot. Payouts from the big games are roughly $17 million, so the teams that get there must be rolling in cash.

Not quite.

The University of Connecticut football team's trip to the Fiesta Bowl to play Oklahoma on Jan. 1, while historic for the program, likely will not result in a significant profit to the school. In fact, it could cost UConn a bundle.

The Big East Conference's revenue-sharing system requires its bowl-eligible members to pool the bowl money and then divide it accordingly based on a tier. So the Huskies are in line to receive around $2.5 million, not including an expense allowance from the league for travel costs that takes into account the distance from Storrs to Arizona.

There's also money to come from the league's other revenue sources, which includes television dollars, that should boost UConn's football income over $3 million.

CONT'D ...

 

[muffler dragon]

Technically, this should go into the 2011 Big East thread, but since it's nearly as irrelevant as the conference is as a whole, I figured I'd put it here.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pitt-graham-staff

Tight ends coach Tony Dews is the third former Michigan assistant coach to join new Pittsburgh coach Todd Graham?s staff.
Previously, assistant head coach Calvin Magee, also the co-offensive coordinator, and cornerbacks coach Tony Gibson were added from former Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez?s staff. Gibson will also be the recruiting coordinator.

cont.

 

[scott91575]

I didn't see a 2011 Big East football thread, and I didn't want to start a thread for this. Anyway, on CBS Sports there is a poll asking "Which is the dirtiest football league in the country?"

SEC is of course leading, but that is not the funny part. The choices are SEC, ACC, B10, B12, Pac12, and (drum roll) Conference USA.

This link will probably only show the poll for a short while since it's the front page, but here it is....

http://www.cbssports.com

 

[Gatorubet]

My, my....while nothing of note since July has happened in the Big East, here is EDSBS with a shout out.


http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday...schadenfreude-basically-is-the-big-easts-life