2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

[jwinslow]

I'll have to check around. I know he was supposed to, or is going to sometime this summer. I remember reading about him recently. He really likes UM, but RR is waiting for some reason.

That's gracious of him to return the favor for Gardner :p

 

[blueinfla]

It doesn't appear as though UM has accepted his verbal yet... no front page commitment stories, no commit list additions, and plenty of time has passed to verify its legitimacy.

Looks like a one-sided decision thus far.

That's what I was thinking.

I'm not sure what to think about him. Seems a step slow right now. He does play in the biggest division in Texas, in a very good conference, and was selected to the all-state team this past year. So, could have a good upside, but, again, a project.

 

[Jaxbuck]

The b10 needs Zook & Dantonio to maintain respectable programs to rebuild the conference's reputation, especially since Bielema doesn't seem to be up to the task. But the b10 cannot be great again without UM. Right after Pryor sounds like a good time for that :p

OSU starts winning big OOC games and the weak B10 talk stops. Nebraska was a bellcow for the B12 forever, their demise certainly hasn't crippled that conference. Someone else will step up (PSU, MSU most likely).

There is no such thing as too big to fail in CFB, they panicked and took RR now they can live with him. OSU fans need to get over the "we need a strong scUM" thing. We do not need a strong scUM program any more than the US needs a strong USSR.

What we need to do is win our big time OOC/Bowl games.

 

[jwinslow]

OSU fans need to get over the "we need a strong scUM" thing.

I'm talking about the conference, not OSU. I've always been a supporter of what you're arguing wrt OSU's reputation. (ie USC, 90's FSU)

What we need to do is win our big time OOC/Bowl games.

Coming into the season, with big questions at tackle, wr, cb & inexperience at LB... most have us pegged for 0-1 losses in the big ten. That's a bit too easy. It might mean a few less titles, but I'd like to see a b10 title mean a bit more.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Coming into the season, with big questions at tackle, wr, cb & inexperience at LB... most have us pegged for 0-1 losses in the big ten. That's a bit too easy. It might mean a few less titles, but I'd like to see a b10 title mean a bit more.

It was the same during the Big 2 little 8 days, no matter what OSU was going to have no more than 1 conf loss.

I just feel that the "validity" of a B10 title isn't even questioned if we beat anyone of UF, LSU, USC or Texas lately. Especially that UF loss, imo we are still dealing with that one...it was a crusher.

I think you and I agree that the only difference between OSU now and FSU/Nebraska of the '90's is that we haven't taken care of business in the NC games while they did and the Internet wasn't as prevelant then so their weak conferences weren't as widely discussed.

Back on topic....Fuck Michigan.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

That's a bit too easy. It might mean a few less titles, but I'd like to see a b10 title mean a bit more.

I could care less if winning the conference title is "easy" or not...it goes in the record books as a conference title. Go look back through our 33 conference titles and tell me which was the hardest and which was the easiest to win. You can't. And even if you could, they each still count as a conference title. Winning the Big Ten always means a lot.

 

[mh20]

As posted in Mylan's thread, Dantonio picked up a good one. UM has done well to regain momentum in-state this offseason, but Dantonio still has a good chance at Bolden (big lean), Gholston (big lean), White, Olaniyan.

UM is in on other corners, but this was a talented kid in their backyard. It's one thing to lose these battles to ND or OSU who will bring in studs regardless, but MSU is bringing in more quality players than before Dantonio. Adams, Norman, Allen, Hicks and probably Gholston will upgrade the talent level for that defense.

This is more about momentum and playing against UM than anything. Between Cullen Christian and others, they'll get good DBs. That's a position UM has always recruited well, and RR has kept that going.

Dantonio has a good shot at Bolden because Michigan already got the guy they wanted at QB in Gardner. Bolden still isn't a sure thing to end up at MSU by the way. Austin White is rumored to be a big Michigan lean actually, and with Gholston dropping for MSU, I wouldn't be surprised if Olaniyan dropped for Michigan.

As far as Mylan Hicks goes, well he probably didn't even have a commit-able offer to U-M in my opinion. Plain and simple, I think Michigan has their sights set on other players at CB that they deem better right now. The commitment of a mid-ranked in-state 3* to MSU is nothing out of the ordinary, and in fact he probably commits to MSU if Carr is still at Michigan.

I am concerned about our offensive to defensive recruiting ratio thus far as any Michigan fan should be, but we're still in on some pretty good defensive prospects and there is still a LONG ways to go with this thing.

 

[jwinslow]

Dantonio has a good shot at Bolden because Michigan already got the guy they wanted at QB in Gardner.

Then why still recruit him?

Austin White is rumored to be a big Michigan lean actually, with Gholston dropping for MSU, I wouldn't be surprised if Olaniyan dropped for Michigan.

Because of the depth chart?

As far as Mylan Hicks goes, well he probably didn't even have a commit-able offer to U-M in my opinion.

And I'd say you're making that up.

Plain and simple, I think Michigan has their sights set on other players at CB that they deem better right now. The commitment of a mid-ranked in-state 3* to MSU is nothing out of the ordinary, and in fact he probably commits to MSU if Carr is still at Michigan.

Like the 3-star CB ranked 2 spots lower than Hicks?

I am concerned about our offensive to defensive recruiting ratio thus far as any Michigan fan should be, but we're still in on some pretty good defensive prospects and there is still a LONG ways to go with this thing.

It doesn't seem like that ratio is going to be evening out before the 2011 recruiting class enrolls, if even then.

 

[jwinslow]

I'd say "For the last time", but clearly it's not getting through. Since folks are struggling with these frequently stated guidelines, the UM verbal threads have now been locked. The ten thousand buckeye fans that are registered here are not interested in having dormant threads dug up in order for UM fans to celebrate.

Most areas of this site allow free exchange, dissenting opinions, even off-color humor and language. Folks can drone on for 10 pages about slot WRs, Charlie Weis' weight, etc. We even have individual threads for LSU & Arizona State baseball.

The recruiting forum is NOT like the rest of the site. It is a tightly organized archive of BUCKEYE recruiting which is the result of hard work from our moderators and posters alike. Constant updates, summaries, breakdowns, and mob-enforced standards help make BP the unique asset that it is for so many.

If a recruit eliminates OSU or vice versa, they are removed from the main recruiting forum. If a thread is started about a buddy who isn't a real target, it is deleted. When an major target's thread goes off topic, those posts are removed.

This site was built by user contributions. If it is relevant to OSU recruiting, then please share.

If it is about a recruit that is not relevant to OSU recruiting, then please share, but do so at our sister site, Recruiting Planet, designed for exactly that reason. Like BP, we need more user contributors there. UM recruiting discussions are also relevant in this thread, as it serves as a catch all for team and recruiting news and debate.

If you have something to add to the BuckeyePlanet discussion about their recruits, then do so. But this is not the place to express your excitement or support in every thread about a Michigan verbal. That website is called RecruitingPlanet, our sister site.

The recruiting forum is very organized (kept on topic about one kid or topic), neat (no profanity), and buckeye-centric. Other fans are welcome to chime in with their insight into a recruitment or evaluation of a prospect, but it exists as a buckeye archive of news. Breaking down William Gholston's play is one thing, as he is still in play for OSU (even if 2nd to MSU), but players that aren't relevant to OSU should not be bumped above other prospects just to say 'yay'.

For instance, bumping the threads for Wilkins, Robinson, etc buries the updates on Alex Smith, Darrion Hall and Nick Montana. Many people do not naturally visit the 2010 forum and only see the most recent thread listed by itself.

 

[jwinslow]

For example:

Today the news was that Gardner, Benedict & Brunetti were off the board.

Yet what appears atop the 2010 forum as the only thread visible from the recruiting forum main page? How Devin Gardner did at a Detroit camp, three months after ending his recruitment.

 

[blueinfla]

Hey, blueinfla, did Hankins attend the UM camp?

Here's a new update for ya DontHate from mgoblog:

This will be a critical week for Michigan and MI DT Jonathan Hankins. Varsity Blue notes a Hankins mention on one of Sam Webb's recent recruiting roundups for WTKA, and helpfully translates the lingo:

Sam Webb had a ?gut feeling? on the Recruiting Roundup Thursday that Hankins would be blue if offered. For those who are unfamiliar with the WTKA morning show, Sam?s ?gut feeling? means that he has heard directly from a source that the information is true.

I think that depends on whether that's a "gut feeling" or a "strong, strong, strong gut feeling," actually, but Webb is expert at playing coy and allowing the listener to read between the lines.

 

[DontHateOState]

For example:

Today the news was that Gardner, Linder & Brunetti were off the board.

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Did Linder drop for Miami already?

 

[jwinslow]

Did Linder drop for Miami already?

My bad. Benedict.

 

[goblue15]

Then why still recruit him?
Because of the depth chart?
And I'd say you're making that up.Like the 3-star CB ranked 2 spots lower than Hicks?
It doesn't seem like that ratio is going to be evening out before the 2011 recruiting class enrolls, if even then.

Hicks is the best corner in the state and we didnt want him? We probably arent getting olynian either. This guy has no idea what he is talking about Jwinslow.

 

[jwinslow]

Thanks. Hicks isn't an irreplaceable 5-star guy, but he's clearly someone they wanted.

Looks like RB Nick Hill, LB Matt Zakrzewski & DB Courtney Avery have been the standouts thus far.

And in some pretty old news:
U-M commitment Ricardo Miller moving to Michigan | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press