2009 TSUN arguments, shenanigans (not football)

[Buckeneye]

Sorry for the double post, but a few letters above that one in my mailbox read this predication for The Game 2008, this is absolute GOLD my friends.

And here's why we will beat Ohio State:

1. Rich Rodriguez brings an offense to Ann Arbor that Ohio State is absolutely horrible and pathetic at defending: the spread offense. Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them, and the Buckeyes defense crumbled like toothpicks each time. RR is the God-father of the spread offense, and he's going to find ways to pick apart the weaknesses in Ohio States overrated defense

2. RR is going to be running the spread offense with a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects, whereas at WV, he was running it with 2 and 3 star prospects. Considering how well he did at WV with that 2 and 3 star talent, imagine how well he's going to do with all the 4 and 5 star talent he has at Michigan

3. Because of all the talent RR has to work with, and because Michigan will be running the spread offense against a team that is horrible at running the spread offense, Michigan is guaranteed at least 21 points in next years game (injuries notwithstanding). Ohio State's offense is one dimensional with beanie Wells, who dominated us last year, but despite that fact, the Buckeyes only scored 14 points. They are going to have to score alot more then 14 points to keep up with Michigans offense, and they can't do that, as their passing game with Todd Boeckman sucks, and as Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense.

4. Motivation. Michigan has a chip on their shoulder after losing 4 straighht to the Buckeyes, while Ohio State is going to get complacent after dominating the rivalry for 7 seasons. It looks more and more like 2001 all over again, where the team that is dominating the rivalry assumes they'll continue to dominate, while the team that is being dominated plays their hearts out and earns a huge upset on the road. Ohio State did it in 2001, and its Michigans turn to do so in 2008

5. Intimidation. Tressell is already sweating at the thought of going up against RR, as he proved by criticizing RR's recruiting schemes. Ohio State's players, coaches, and fans know in the bottom of their hearts that they can't stop RR's spread offense, or any spread offense, and they are petrified at the prospect of having to stop his offense

edit: P.S. if you enjoyed the read(s) I can post more throught the course of the off-season or for ammo against our ever so knowledgable friends of TSUN. Greenies however are always accepted =).

 

[jwinslow]

I'm pretty sure I've read that writeup before (from the 2nd post)

Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them

It's remarkable how few people know what kind of an offense LSU runs... and where they fall in the B10 - SEC stereotypes.

and is even a better athlete then Mike Hart

Personally I thought Mike was a very good RB, but hailing his athleticism?

I can post sooooooooooooo much more of what these people thought pre-2008. I held onto all these messages and statements (and flame mails) just to rub it in at the right time: and that time is now.

Anything about Trent's amazing 40 time?

 

[NFBuck]

I'm dying here.

 

[jwinslow]

Sorry for the double post, but a few letters above that one in my mailbox read this predication for The Game 2008, this is absolute GOLD my friends.

I'm pretty sure I read your section (1-5) on a GBW thread somewhere, but here's a longer version of it:

What is your prediction on michigan? - Yahoo! Answers

I think Michigan is going to go 11-2, win the Big Ten outright, and beat Ohio State for the first time since 2003

Lets go through the schdule again:

Utah=Michigan is ten times more talented then the Utes, RR is a much better coach then Kyle Whittingham, RR is not going to let his team lose in his first game as head coach, and the players are going to come out hugely motivated because they don't want to lsoe a second straight season and home opener. Combine these four factors and you ahve a 3 or 4 TD blowout for Michigan.

Miami(OH)=they are an MAC team playing at the big house. This will be a whitewash for the Wolverines

at Notre Dame=the Fightless Irish went 3-9 last season, their head coach sucks, Michigan has outscored ND 85-21 the last two seasons, RR is going to be looking to make a statement in his first game against one of the wolverines rivals, and the players will be fired up after weis said to hell with Michigan. This will be a shutout blowout victory for the Wolverines

Wisconsin=its RR's first experience against against a Big ten team, this is offenses first experience against a defense that is actually good, and the Badgers return 8 of 11 starters on both sides of the ball. The Badgers will eke out a close victory in this one

Illinois=Michigan beat Illinois 27-17 last season in Champagne when the illini had Rashard Mendenhall, and Michigan returns most of its defense. So there's no way the Wolverines will lose to illinois in the Big House when the illini no longer have mendenhall. This will be a 10 point victory again for Michigan.

Toledo=(see miami(oh))

at Penn State=I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Michigan losses this game. However, the Nittney lions never have an answer for our running game, and now that they have lost Sean lee for the season, 2008 will be no different. Our defense has put the clamps on their offense the last two years, and now they lose Rodney Kinlaw and Anthony Morelli, while we return most of our defense, so again, 2008 will be no different. Not to mention we've won 9 straight against them overall, including 4 straight at Happy Valley. we are in their heads, and we will continue to be in 2008. Michigan will gut out a clsoe victory in this game.

Michigan State=I shouldn't even have to bother explaining why Michigan will toast the Fartans in this game

at Purdue=Normally i'd be worried about a trip to West Lafayette, but the Boilmakers have no defense in 2008, and by the 9th game of the season, our offense will be in gear. Not to mention joe tiller is going to be too angry at RR to actually coach a good game. Michigan will win this game by at least 10 points.

at Minnesota=the Wolverines ahven't lost to the golden Gophers on the road since 1977, and Minnesota is comnig of a 1-11 season in which they were last in the nation in total defense. its a rivalry game, so this might not be a blowout, but Michigan will still win it

Northwestern=if this game was at ryan Field, i'd be worried, but the Wildcats never beat us at the Big House. This could be a clsoe game, but Michigan will still get the W.

Here's why we will beat Ohio State:

1. Rich Rodriguez brings an offense to Ann Arbor that Ohio State is absolutely horrible and pathetic at defending: the spread offense. Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them, and the Buckeyes defense crumbled like toothpicks each time. RR is the God-father of the spread offense, and he's going to find ways to pick apart the weaknesses in Ohio States overrated defense

2. RR is going to be running the spread offense with a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects, whereas at WV, he was running it with 2 and 3 star prospects. Considering how well he did at WV with that 2 and 3 star talent, imagine how well he's going to do with all the 4 and 5 star talent he has at Michigan

3. Because of all the talent RR has to work with, and because Michigan will be running the spread offense against a team that is horrible at running the spread offense, Michigan is guaranteed at least 21 points in next years game (injuries notwithstanding). Ohio State's offense is one dimensional with beanie Wells, who dominated us last year, but despite that fact, the Buckeyes only scored 14 points. They are going to have to score alot more then 14 points to keep up with Michigans offense, and they can't do that, as their passing game with Todd Boeckman sucks, and as Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense.

4. Motivation. Michigan has a chip on their shoulder after losing 4 straighht to the Buckeyes, while Ohio State is going to get complacent after dominating the rivalry for 7 seasons. It looks more and more like 2001 all over again, where the team that is dominating the rivalry assumes they'll continue to dominate, while the team that is being dominated plays their hearts out and earns a huge upset on the road. Ohio State did it in 2001, and its Michigans turn to do so in 2008

5. Intimidation. Tressell is already sweating at the thought of going up against RR, as he proved by criticizing RR's recruiting schemes. Ohio State's players, coaches, and fans know in the bottom of their hearts that they can't stop RR's spread offense, or any spread offense, and they are petrified at the prospect of having to stop his offense

Fartans? really?

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'm pretty sure I read your section (1-5) on a GBW thread somewhere, but here's a longer version of it:

What is your prediction on michigan? - Yahoo! Answers
Fartans? really?

Remarkably enough poole1Dan has closed his account.

 

[NFBuck]

The beauty of it all is that as the season gets closer, a very large number are deluding themselves into thinking this is a nine or ten win team. What of the below makes one think this is a ten win team:

• Starting an undersized true freshman QB
• An average, at best, OL
• No proven gamebreaker at WR
• Very little depth at most key positions on defense
• Subpar safety play (again) with one of them being another true frosh
• A defense that still hasn't proven that they could tackle a dachsund
• A freshman kicker

At least last year they were coming off a pretty good bowl win and the relative unknown of a new regime. This year they're coming off the worst, most (gloriously) embarrassing season in program history, yet they're right back to their old antics. I'm telling you, the domers have nothing on these yahoos...

 

[NFBuck]

I can't help myself...

I think Michigan is going to go 11-2, win the Big Ten outright, and beat Ohio State for the first time since 2003 Bwahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Lets go through the schdule again:

Utah=Michigan is ten times more talented then the Utes, RR is a much better coach then Kyle Whittingham False, RR is not going to let his team lose in his first game as head coach False, and the players are going to come out hugely motivated because they don't want to lsoe a second straight season and home opener False. Combine these four factors and you ahve a 3 or 4 TD blowout for Michigan. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Miami(OH)=they are an MAC team playing at the big house. This will be a whitewash for the Wolverines 16-6 =/= whitewash

at Notre Dame=the Fightless Irish went 3-9 last season Heh, their head coach sucks Heh heh, Michigan has outscored ND 85-21 the last two seasons, RR is going to be looking to make a statement in his first game against one of the wolverines rivals He made a statement alright..., and the players will be fired up after weis said to hell with Michigan. This will be a shutout blowout victory for the Wolverines Fail

Wisconsin=its RR's first experience against against a Big ten team, this is offenses first experience against a defense that is actually good, and the Badgers return 8 of 11 starters on both sides of the ball. The Badgers will eke out a close victory in this one Thank you Bret Bielema...

Illinois=Michigan beat Illinois 27-17 last season in Champagne when the illini had Rashard Mendenhall, and Michigan returns most of its defense. So there's no way the Wolverines will lose to illinois in the Big House when the illini no longer have mendenhall Whoops. This will be a 10 point victory again for Michigan Double whoops.

Toledo=(see miami(oh)) Epic Fail

at Penn State=I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Michigan losses this game Correct. However, the Nittney lions never have an answer for our running game, and now that they have lost Sean lee for the season, 2008 will be no different. Our defense has put the clamps on their offense the last two years, and now they lose Rodney Kinlaw and Anthony Morelli, while we return most of our defense, so again, 2008 will be no different. Not to mention we've won 9 straight against them overall, including 4 straight at Happy Valley. we are in their heads, and we will continue to be in 2008. Michigan will gut out a clsoe victory in this game. Should've stuck with your first instinct moron.

Michigan State=I shouldn't even have to bother explaining why Michigan will toast the Fartans in this game "Fartans"? Creative. Fail...

at Purdue=Normally i'd be worried about a trip to West Lafayette, but the Boilmakers have no defense in 2008, and by the 9th game of the season, our offense will be in gear 1st Gear?. Not to mention joe tiller is going to be too angry at RR to actually coach a good game. Michigan will win this game by at least 10 points. Fail...

at Minnesota=the Wolverines ahven't lost to the golden Gophers on the road since 1977, and Minnesota is comnig of a 1-11 season in which they were last in the nation in total defense. its a rivalry game, so this might not be a blowout, but Michigan will still win it Congrats on being correct about beating an imploding rodents team...

Northwestern=if this game was at ryan Field, i'd be worried, but the Wildcats never beat us at the Big House. This could be a clsoe game, but Michigan will still get the W. Fail...

Here's why we will beat Ohio State:

1. Rich Rodriguez brings an offense to Ann Arbor that Ohio State is absolutely horrible and pathetic at defending: the spread offense. Illinois, Florida, and LSU all tore the Buckeyes a new asshole by running the spread offense on them, and the Buckeyes defense crumbled like toothpicks each time. RR is the God-father of the spread offense, and he's going to find ways to pick apart the weaknesses in Ohio States overrated defense Example #1,235,678 as to why there should be an application to post on the internet...

2. RR is going to be running the spread offense with a bunch of 4 and 5 star prospects, whereas at WV, he was running it with 2 and 3 star prospects. Considering how well he did at WV with that 2 and 3 star talent, imagine how well he's going to do with all the 4 and 5 star talent he has at Michigan
Example #1,235,679 as to why there should be an application to post on the internet...I still see a bunch of three stars, and I won't go into DickRod's success coming after the big boys left that conference...



3. Because of all the talent RR has to work with, and because Michigan will be running the spread offense against a team that is horrible at running the spread offense, Michigan is guaranteed at least 21 points in next years game (injuries notwithstanding). Ohio State's offense is one dimensional with beanie Wells, who dominated us last year, but despite that fact, the Buckeyes only scored 14 points. They are going to have to score alot more then 14 points to keep up with Michigans offense, and they can't do that, as their passing game with Todd Boeckman sucks, and as Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense. Example #1,235,680 as to why there should be an application to post on the internet...



4. Motivation. Michigan has a chip on their shoulder after losing 4 straighht to the Buckeyes, while Ohio State is going to get complacent after dominating the rivalry for 7 seasons. It looks more and more like 2001 all over again, where the team that is dominating the rivalry assumes they'll continue to dominate, while the team that is being dominated plays their hearts out and earns a huge upset on the road. Ohio State did it in 2001, and its Michigans turn to do so in 2008
Example #1,235,681 as to why there should be an application to post on the internet...



5. Intimidation. Tressell is already sweating at the thought of going up against RR, as he proved by criticizing RR's recruiting schemes. Ohio State's players, coaches, and fans know in the bottom of their hearts that they can't stop RR's spread offense, or any spread offense, and they are petrified at the prospect of having to stop his offense Intimidated?

 

[buckeyemania11]

a dominant middle linebacker in Obi Ezeh; and two shutdown cornerbacks in Trent and Donovan Warren. Defense wins championships, and Michigans defense is gonig to be arguably the best in the Big Ten in 2008, and one of the best in the nation

 

[Meyer]

Michigan BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NFBuck]

Notice that he added "FORCIER" to the back of his Chargers jacket so you know who he is:

The "Tate Forcier Factor" :​

He looks like a bobblehead:​

My God, the ego on these people:​

Robert Patrick Forcier AKA Tate Forcier the youngest of 3 brothers. Tate Forcier was born at Kaiser Hospital in San Diego, California. Tate Forcier was the smallest and the slowest athlete of the three Forcier brothers but always had a bit stronger of an arm and always looking down field to pass first then run. He carried many Pop Warner and Junior all American teams to championship games including a win over Dorchester, MA. in the Pop Warner Super Bowl. His favorite Junior All American team; Fountain Valley and coach was Hector Marinez. In High School Tate Forcier started out at Saint Augustine but Lasted just 3 weeks until the Forcier Family realized Tate Forcier wasn?t a fit for this all boy catholic school so the family pulled him out. He enrolled at Scripps Ranch High School, San Diego, California. The rest is history.

"The rest is history"? ​

That site is an unending bounty of material...​

 

[buckeyemania11]

Forcier is being set up for a Brian Bosworth esque failure

massive ego, self given nicknames etc........

I cant wait to see this dude get smacked around by D1 defenders

 

[Buckeye86]

• Starting an undersized true freshman QB

understatement of the year, I would be shocked if Forcier made it through the year without a significant injury, but I would be even more shocked if his psyche made it through the year unscathed

• Very little depth at most key positions on defense
• A defense that still hasn't proven that they could tackle a dachsund

not only do they have very little depth at most key positions, but they also have very few quality starters at most key positions

last years defense never proved that they could tackle a dachshund, this year they only return half of their D and they still need to prove that they can tackle a scrambling David Cone, then they can upgrade to dschshunds

 

[ysubuck]

Forcier is being set up for a Brian Bosworth esque failure

massive ego, self given nicknames etc........

I cant wait to see this dude get smacked around by D1 defenders

In Bosworth's defense, he was a HELL of a college linebacker. If Tate has a college career on par with Bosworth we'll be eating some crow.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

last years defense never proved that they could tackle a dachshund, this year they only return half of their D and they still need to prove that they can tackle a scrambling David Cone, then they can upgrade to dschshunds

HOW F*CKING DARE ANYONE OUT THERE MAKE FUN OF DAVID CONE...LEAVE DAVID CONE ALONE!!!

 

[Jaxbuck]

He looks like a bobblehead

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