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2009 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

westbuck04;1382184; said:
New Scout rankings are out and, surprise surprise, OSU commits are falling like rocks.

Brown dethrones Barkley atop Scout 300 - article
Scout.com: Football Recruiting - rankings

The top 50 are 5* while the remainder of the 300 are 4*. Interesting to compare to Rivals. Rivals only gives 5* to the top 33, though does give 4* to the remainder of the top 250.

#19 Dorian Bell (#33 Rivals)
#22 Melvin Fellows (#216 Rivals)
#23 Tajh Boyd (#51 Rivals)
#27 Johnny Simon (NR Rivals)
#28 Marlon Brown (#53 Rivals)
#65 Marcus Hall (#52 Rivals)
#69 Jaamal Berry (#56 Rivals)
#74 Corey Brown (#31 Rivals)
#93 Duron Carter (#90 Rivals)

#112 Darren Myles (#133 Rivals)
#131 Jamie Wood (#74 Rivals)
#136 CJ Barnett (#145 Rivals)
#145 Carlos Hyde (NR Rivals)
#146 Jack Mewhort (#212 Rivals)
#181 Corey Linsley (#174 Rivals)
#215 Morgan Moses (#49 Rivals)
#226 Justin Green (#82 Rivals)
#230 Storm Klein (#214 Rivals)
#259 James Jackson (#225 Rivals)
#262 Dominic Clarke (#177 Rivals)
#264 Jonathan Newsome (NR Rivals)
#294 Reid Fragel
(NR Rivals)

Not listed: Fields (Rivals #129), Telfort (Rivals #141), Bellamy, Boren, Homen, Longo, Whiting, J Hall.
 
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barry every at rivals said simon was ranked where he was because he's too small, and underwhelmed all week at the AA game.

I asked him if this were true, why was is it that rivals has 6 guys ranked ahead of simon that are actually smaller than him, and why was simon ranked in the east hot 11 for his practice performances if he was so underwhelming.

my question was not answered, and I think, was actually deleted.
 
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was delving more into the oddities in ESPN's rankings and this is how those guys see the state of Ohio this year....

1. Barnett
2. I. Bell
3. Wood
4. Fellows
5. Mewhort
6. Hall
7. Turner
8. Simon
9. Hunter
10. Carradine
11. Linsley
12. Marrow
13. Touissaint
14. Kuechly
15. Penza (kicker)
16. Mason
17. Bobel
18. Golden
19. Fields
20. Davis
21. Simmons (kicker)
22. Coyne
23. Bellamy
24. Longo
25. Homan
26. Green
27. Williams
28. Bosler
29. Hinkle
30. Freeman
31. Allen
32. Roberts (kicker)
33. Conway
34. Hull
35. Klein

with Newsome and Boren further down...

(FWIW ESPN did right one terrible wrong... as Corey Brown moved up to the No. 17 ATH in the nation...much improved from his previous status as roughly the No. 400 prospect in the country...he's around No. 150-200ish now)
 
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Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Ga., Ohio headline state rankings releases

There's a new No. 1 in the state of Ohio. After a strong showing in the U.S. Army All-America Game, Massillon (Ohio) Washington defensive back Justin Turner moved up to the No. 1 spot in the Rivals.com Ohio Postseason Top 60. He moves ahead of offensive lineman Marcus Hall of Cleveland Glenville and defensive back Jamie Wood of Pickerington (Ohio) Central.
The news of Turner's climb to the top spot means the Michigan Wolverines scored the top player in the state, which does happen, but with Jim Tressel's stranglehold on the talent in the Buckeye State it's been a rare occurrence.
Glenville defensive back Mike Edwards also made a nice climb in the rankings, moving all the way up to the No. 21 spot. The 5-foot-10, 170-pound cornerback had a solid senior season and proved he was one of the state's best after starting out at the No. 45 spot in the preseason rankings.

2. Marcus Hall
3. Jamie Wood
4. Chris Fields
5. CJ Barnett
7. Corey Linsley
9. Jack Mewhort
10. Storm Klein
11. Melvin Fellows
17. John Simon
19. Sam Longo
20. Jonathan Newsome
24. Adam Bellamy
34. Adam Homan
47. Zach Boren
 
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wadc45;1389307; said:
Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Movement in Pa., Mich. and Mo. state rankings (free)

Pennsylvania Rivals.com Prospect Rankings (free)

Of note:

#1 Corey Brown
#2 Dorian Bell
#8 Jordan Hall

Michigan Rivals.com Prospect Rankings (free)

Of note:

#5 James Jackson
#13 Reid Fragel


I am not implying that Rivals knows more about how a player will project in the future than a Big-10 program, but it is very telling about something amiss in State College when Penn State only has 1 player from the top 15 from Pennsylvania. Second year in a row for this kind of success.
 
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Rivals.com Kentucky Postseason Top 10 2009

Kentucy Rankings
1Justin Green
Louisville (KY) Male
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DB5-10/178Ohio State
Speedy corner that runs a 10.6 100 meters.

2Jordan Whiting
Louisville (KY) Trinity
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LB6-0/230Ohio State
Strong LB that runs a 11.1 100 meters and 24.0 200 meters.
 
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MONTbigBuck;1389334; said:
I am not implying that Rivals knows more about how a player will project in the future than a Big-10 program, but it is very telling about something amiss in State College when Penn State only has 1 player from the top 15 from Pennsylvania. Second year in a row for this kind of success.

Lots of concern in not so Happy Valley, not only is PSU not getting top talent in state, they are offering and getting verbals from mid major level talent (1 four star, 1 three star and 5 two star) according to Rivals.
 
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Wow... taking the top 2 players in Pennsylvannia and Kentucky? I'd like to see if that has ever happend ONCE at OSU for us to take either one of those states like that, let alone both at the same time.

Penn State and TSUN are absolutely getting pwned in their own state by their respective "sister" school. That's a bad sign for both of those programs... especially since both of those schools have taken it in the chin in-state for the 2nd straight year. It's an absolute joke that PSU has only ONE recruit in-state ranked in the top 18. *Insert your favorite JoePa joke here*
 
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