2009 BP Poll - Week 1

[THEWOOD]

1 Florida Gators
2 USC Trojans
3 Texas Longhorns
4 Alabama Crimson Tide
5 The Ohio State University Buckeyes
6 Oklahoma State Cowboys
7 Penn State Nittany Lions
8 California Bears
9 LSU Tigers
10 Mississippi Rebels
11 Brigham Young Cougars
12 Boise State Broncos
13 Notre Dame Fighting Irish
14 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
15 Georgia Bulldogs
16 Virginia Tech Hokies
17 Utah Utes
18 TCU Horned Frogs
19 Oklahoma Sooners
20 Oregon State Beavers
21 North Carolina Tarheels
22 Iowa Hawkeyes
23 Kansas Jayhawks
24 Pitt Panthers
25 Arizona Wildcats

 

[Steve19]

1 Florida
2 Texas
3 Alabama
4 USC
5 Penn State
6 Oklahoma State
7 Mississippi
8 Ohio State
9 Boise State
10 Brigham Young
11 California
12 LSU
13 Virginia Tech
14 Utah
15 Georgia Tech
16 North Carolina
17 Nebraska
18 Miami (FL)
19 Oklahoma
20 Georgia
21 Michigan State
22 TCU
23 Kansas
24 Oregon State
25 Missouri

 

[BigWoof31]

1. Florida Gators
2. Texas Longhorns
3. Alabama Crimson Tide
4. Southern Cal Trojans
5. Penn State Nittany Lions
6. Ohio State Buckeyes
7. Cal Bears
8. LSU Fightin' Tigers
9. Okie State Cowboys
10. Ole Miss Runnin' Rebels
11. Ga Tech Fighting homos
12. Boise State Broncos
13. BYU Cougars
14. VA Tech Hokies
15. North Carolina Tar Heels
16. Nebraska Huskers
17. Miami Hurricanes
18. ND Fighting Irish
19. UGA Fighting Disappointments
20. Cincy Bearcats

 

[Zander42]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. USC
5. Oklahoma State
6. Ohio State
7. Penn State
8. Cal
9. Oklahoma
10. Virginia Tech
11. Ole Miss
    
12. LSU
13. BYU
14. Georgia Tech
15. Georgia
    
16. Boise State
    
17. Miami (FL)
18. Florida State
19. Utah
20. North Carolina
21. Nebraska
    
22. TCU
23. Notre Dame
24. Cincinnati
    
25. Pittsburgh
    

I also have BYU behind OU, by a few places. It was a close game and if Bradford was not hurt, I think OU wins. If I found out that Bradford was out for the year, I would probably have OU lower, but since it looks like he is coming back, I feel like OU is still a better team. Actually, once their #2 QB gets more reps with the first string 'O', they will still probably still be a bit better, just not top 5 in the country better (without Bradford, anyway).

-z

 

[Nutriaitch]

1. florida
2. texas
3. bama
4. usc
5. penn st
6. okie st
7. old piss
8. ohio st
9. lsu
10. byu
11. cal
12. boise st
13. va tech
14. georgia tech
15. chokelahoma
16. tcu
17. north carolina
18. utah
19. miami
20. notre dame
21. cincinnati
22. missouri
23. georgia
24. nebraska
25. kansas

OU is in trouble. BIG trouble.
their O-Line looked absolutely dreadful. they'll be using their 3rd string QB soon if that ain't fixed.

LSU and OSU dropped after winning, because both fell short of expectations for week 1.

 

[jlb1705]

I'll post my ballot when I have a bit more time later.

To those who ranked BYU below Oklahoma: Did you watch that game? BYU was missing players too. They only traveled with 7 OL and their best RB was out. They went into what was a de facto home game for the Sooners and were giving them more than they could handle even when Bradford was still in there. And the reason why Bradford was out? It wasn't because of some fluke, it was because BYU whipped Oklahomas O-line ALL NIGHT.

People always say that the transitive property doesn't work in college football. That's wrong. The transitive property does work after Week 1. After that, maybe not so much. If you think Oklahoma really will be better over the entire season when Bradford comes back, then why not let them play a few more games to prove it instead of assuming it right off the bat? Right now the only thing that Oklahoma has done this season is lose to BYU, and the only thing BYU has done is beat Oklahoma. In my book, that means that for now BYU should be considered to be better than Oklahoma.

 

[CleveBucks]

BYU won by a point with OK missing their returning Heisman QB and a 1st round TE. One point. They didn't play all that well. I don't think they would've lasted had Bradford been in there four quarters.

 

[BB73]

I'll post my ballot when I have a bit more time later.

To those who ranked BYU below Oklahoma: Did you watch that game? BYU was missing players too. They only traveled with 7 OL and their best RB was out. They went into what was a de facto home game for the Sooners and were giving them more than they could handle even when Bradford was still in there. And the reason why Bradford was out? It wasn't because of some fluke, it was because BYU whipped Oklahomas O-line ALL NIGHT.

People always say that the transitive property doesn't work in college football. That's wrong. The transitive property does work after Week 1. After that, maybe not so much. If you think Oklahoma really will be better over the entire season when Bradford comes back, then why not let them play a few more games to prove it instead of assuming it right off the bat? Right now the only thing that Oklahoma has done this season is lose to BYU, and the only thing BYU has done is beat Oklahoma. In my book, that means that for now BYU should be considered to be better than Oklahoma.

I completely agree with week 1 results being used when determining where to rank teams that played each other.

I don't know if they have to be 'considered to be better', but in my book, it means they deserve to be ranked higher.

 

[MD Buckeye]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. USC
5. Ohio State
6. Oklahoma State
7. BYU
8. LSU
9. Penn State
10. California
11. Mississippi
12. Boise State
13. Georgia Tech
14. Oklahoma
15. Virginia Tech
16. Notre Dame
17. Utah
18. Miami
19. North Carolina
20. TCU
21. Cincinnati
22. Georgia
23. Nebraska
24. Oregon State
25. Kansas

 

[LordJeffBuck]

I'm in the process of tabulating ballots, so you haven't yet submitted yours, you still have a bit of time (maybe an hour?) to do so.

 

[Bucklion]

BYU won by a point with OK missing their returning Heisman QB and a 1st round TE. One point. They didn't play all that well. I don't think they would've lasted had Bradford been in there four quarters.

Could be I suppose...though some would argue that had McGahee not gotten hurt we never would have beaten Miami in 2002 either...doesn't make our trophy any less real to me.

 

[WyoBuck]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Ohio State
6. LSU
7. Penn State
8. Oklahoma State
9. California
10. Virginia Tech
11. Mississippi
12. Georgia Tech
13. Oklahoma
14. Georgia
15. Boise State
16. Nebraska
17. North Carolina
18. Utah
19. TCU
20. Notre Dame
21. BYU
22. Miami
23. Kansas
24. Cincinatti
25. Missouri

 

[Zander42]

I completely agree with week 1 results being used when determining where to rank teams that played each other.

I don't know if they have to be 'considered to be better', but in my book, it means they deserve to be ranked higher.

I understand that view, it's just not how I rank teams. I rank teams based on who I 'consider to be better' and go from there. That's probably why it's good to have many voters, so you can average out different methods of ranking.

If it were more of a decisive victory, that would probably change things more for me, but BYU played "balls out" and OU may have played their worst game of the year, and lost their star player and BYU only managed a one point win on a late game touchdown.

The end result is, on my poll, that OU drops by several spots and BYU goes up a few. But there is not enough evidance to flip-flop them, not yet anyway.

-z

 

[Bucklion]

I understand that view, it's just not how I rank teams. I rank teams based on who I 'consider to be better' and go from there. That's probably why it's good to have many voters, so you can average out different methods of ranking.

If it were more of a decisive victory, that would probably change things more for me, but BYU played "balls out" and OU may have played their worst game of the year, and lost their star player and BYU only managed a one point win on a late game touchdown.

The end result is, on my poll, that OU drops by several spots and BYU goes up a few. But there is not enough evidance to flip-flop them, not yet anyway.

-z

Well they definitely did that...of course, they also played their best game of the year...and only game of the year...

 

[Zander42]

Could be I suppose...though some would argue that had McGahee not gotten hurt we never would have beaten Miami in 2002 either...doesn't make our trophy any less real to me.

I see what you are saying, but the NCG is a little bit of a different animal. The NCG is a one game playoff where everyone agrees that the winner is crowned champion. Once you are in the NCG, you don't have to worry about the popularity contest anymore.

If that game had happened earlier in the season, I could certainly see why some voters might keep Miami ahead of tOSU in their polls, based on how the game played out. (I personally wouldn't, since I thought that tOSU had them handled throughout most of the game, but that's a different dead horse).

All that said, if BYU gets past Utah and TCU and goes undefeated, I think this victory should be enough to get them into the NCG ahead of any 1-loss BCS teams.

-z

p.s. Oh, and I do see the potential conundrum with that last sentence, if both BYU and OU win out the rest of the season. All I can say to that is that if OU wins out that will make BYU's victory look better making a leapfrog later on more likely.