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2008 SEC Discussion

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Gatorubet;1338329; said:
Well, you don't do the SEC chant when you lose. That would be the "beat us and get scoreboard" part I was talking about.

And as long as we get to use stats, I'll use BCS games only as a representation of the best versus the best. :biggrin:

Conference
Percentage (Record)

Mountain West 1.000 (1-0)

Southeastern .733 (11-4)

Pacific-10 .667 (8-4)

Big East .600 (6-4)

WAC .500 (1-1)

Big Ten .471 (8-9)

Big 12 .429 (6-8)

Atlantic Coast .100 (1-9)

Independents .000 (0-3)
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Notre Dame and ACC. :slappy:
 
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Gatorubet;1338329; said:
Well, you don't do the SEC chant when you lose. That would be the "beat us and get scoreboard" part I was talking about.

And as long as we get to use stats, I'll use BCS games only as a representation of the best versus the best. :biggrin:
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[sarcasm]You know that anything before 2006 is irrelevant right?[/sarcasm]

edit: for some reason my [sarcasm] font isn't working.
 
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Gatorubet;1338329; said:
Well, you don't do the SEC chant when you lose. That would be the "beat us and get scoreboard" part I was talking about.

And as long as we get to use stats, I'll use BCS games only as a representation of the best versus the best. :biggrin:

Conference
Percentage (Record)

Mountain West 1.000 (1-0)

Southeastern .733 (11-4)

Pacific-10 .667 (8-4)

Big East .600 (6-4)

WAC .500 (1-1)

Big Ten .471 (8-9)

Big 12 .429 (6-8)

Atlantic Coast .100 (1-9)

Independents .000 (0-3)
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I don't know how well that fits into a discussion where you were just talking up the SEC's top-to-bottom strength, but I do notice that the BigTen is clearly getting the most opportunities to play the best in those bowls.
 
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ACC:

W - Syracuse, FSU, ILL 99, Maryland 01, FSU, Oklahoma 03, Va Tech 04, Notre Dame 06 :slappy:, Ohio State 06, Hawaii :slappy: 07, Ohio State 07
L - Nebraska, Michigan :slappy:, Miami, WVU :slappy:

There are a lot of weak opponents in that lineup, noticeably easier than the b10 lineup imo. Many of those wins are against some pretty weak "BCS" opponents. ILL 99, MD 01, ND 06, Haw 07, OSU 07 are the obvious ones, others are debatable.

B10:

W - UCLA 98, ATM 98, Stan 99, Bama 99, Miami 02, KSU 03, ND 05, FSU 06,
L - Wash 00, LSU 01, USC 02, USC 03, 04 Texas, UF 06, USC 06, LSU 07, USC 07



How many of the b10 matchups were weak? Nowhere near as many KSU 03's as the SEC list. And there are a LOT less matchups like Miami 02, USC 02, Texas 04, USC 06, 07, etc.

The B10's BCS record was 8-5 heading into 06, but folks like to pretend like the last 2 years and OSU's record vs the SEC prove the long-standing inequality between the conferences. When faced with the actual numbers when they meet, 'scoreboard' or other canned responses appear to dodge the subject. No one argues that UM's collapse has crippled the strength of the conference, but painting it as a long standing problem is where the hyperbole comes in.
 
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FWBuckeye;1338327; said:
I'll give you Wisconsin, but I think Michigan State is questionable. It's a basketball school, with a little football thrown in every 4-5 years.
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Attendance figures would argue otherwise. MSU consistently brings over 95% capacity, even in down years.

Iowa had a capacity crowd every game last year even though they sucked.

Just by glancing at the figures, it looks like Iowa and MSU both consistently draw better than several of the SEC schools do... Arkansas namely and Auburn and South Carolina potentially too. Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt are entrenched firmly below Purdue as well.
 
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BayBuck;1338343; said:
I don't know how well that fits into a discussion where you were just talking up the SEC's top-to-bottom strength, but I do notice that the BigTen is clearly getting the most opportunities to play the best in those bowls.
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This makes no sense, but I was talking about the ability of SEC teams to knock each other off. While a logical person would infer that I was implying that we are all good - I do not really mean that. But for whatever reason, we just seem to kick each other's asses.

Do I think our non-bowl qualifiers can kick your non-bowl qualifiers' asses?

S-E-C!!! :banger: :biggrin:
 
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jwinslow;1338364; said:
W - UCLA 98 (Bob Toledo), ATM 98 (RC Slocumb), Stan 99 (Ty Willingham), Bama 99 (Mike Dubose), Miami 02 (Larry Coker), KSU 03, ND 05 (Charlie Weis), FSU 06,
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The coaching staff's responsible for preparing the teams in the Big10 wins are listed above.

I've omitted Bowden and Snyder because they weren't fired from gross incompetence, about to be fired for gross incompetence, or out of football all together.

Ain't much to hang your hat on I'm afraid.
 
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mross34;1338375; said:
That's not a bowl cut. His hair is just wind-swept. Your hair would look like that too if you were moving around at SEC speed all the time.
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True. Not a real bowl cut. Having had one from the age of 2 to 10 (Thanks, Mom :roll1:) I know a real bowl cut when I see one. "Bowlcut" was just easier to write than "Limp-wristed southern nancy-boy cut".
 
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SEC Leads Nation in Football Attendance : Fanblogs College Football Blog

2005

Total Attendance | Avg Per School | Avg Per Game

SEC - 5.59 mil ... | 0.466 million ... | 74,582.6 ppl
B10 - 5.07 mil ... | 0.455 million ... | 72,566.6 ppl
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B12 - 4.20 mil ... | 0.350 million .. | 58396.9 ppl
ACC - 3.76 mil .. | 0.313 million ... | 52257.8 ppl

Anyone have more recent statistics?



Attendance is quite comparable between the conferences, when you acknowledge and factor in the extra team.
 
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jwinslow;1338390; said:
SEC Leads Nation in Football Attendance : Fanblogs College Football Blog

2005

Total Attendance | Avg Per School | Avg Per Game

SEC - 5.59 mil ... | 0.466 million ... | 74,582.6 ppl
B10 - 5.07 mil ... | 0.455 million ... | 72,566.6 ppl
...
B12 - 4.20 mil ... | 0.350 million .. | 58396.9 ppl
ACC - 3.76 mil .. | 0.313 million ... | 52257.8 ppl

Anyone have more recent statistics?


Attendance is quite comparable between the conferences, when you acknowledge and factor in the extra team.
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I agree. I think comparing attendance stats is the weakest point an SEC fan can make.
 
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