2007 tOSU Football Season Discussion (merged)

[shetuck]

Lantern: Buckeye Rhyme

by By Brayden Myers from Ms. Calabrese's 8th grade English class, Memorial Middle School (in Hilliard)

tried to sing it to the melody from "Fight The Team..." it didn't work, but it was fun trying.

greenies to Brayden...

Buckeye Rhyme

By Brayden Myers
Memorial Middle School
Ms. Calabrese's 8th grade English class

A rebuilding year they said at first,
Then Michigan's season took a turn for the worst.
One by one our opponents fell,
How the season would end, it was too early to tell.

Purdue and Penn St. went down easy,
That made folks in Ann Arbor rather queasy.
Next came Wisconsin, we were down by a score,
Then Beanie scored three, and could have had more.

Then came the Illini, and their coach Ron Zook,
This was a game we couldn't afford to
overlook.
Illinois came to play, and Juice was a beast,
All the cheering in the crowd practically ceased.

cont'd...

 

[kippy1040]

I thought for sure this team would grow to its full potential, but to implode like we saw them do is very disturbing. Watching Tressel up in Y-Town all those years winning in convincing style told me he was the man for OhioState. Living here in the south and taking all the abuse from sports radio media is nausiating. They laugh at the BIG 10 and all OhioState people with sarcastic remarks on how slow we are. You all up in Columbus and in other Ohio cities don't have to listen to all the crap that JaxBuck and I hear month after month.

Maybe a coaching staff shake up and less duties for JT would be in order. But the past two years in the real heat of battle is not the Tressel teams
that I thought I would see. There is something really terribly wrong going
down UP in the Bowels of Ohio State fooball. We go 6 years out of 7 yrs
beating the tsun and everybody is Happy?

Then we are awarded 3 years
in a national championship game, just barley winning the one in 2003, then the wheels coming off the wagon 2 years running, just doesn't make any sense to me and what direction Ohio State football is going. And now many OSU faithfull are coming to the Idea of comparing Jim Tressel to John Cooper. For what ever reason that is thrown to the table is beyond me.

The 2008 Ohio State Buckeyes will be a solid football team on PAPER but will they be able to prove thier worth and back it up with a different plan. That I guess
remains to be seen. I feel alittle better now that I got this RANT off my chest. I suppose if I lived back up in Ohio, i would feel different but being a Faithfull Follower of Buckeye Football here in the deep south is pretty hard to take right now. Maybe in a week or two, i will cool off and life will go on once again. AT least I hope so.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Schlabach is pushing Skip Bayless for the title of biggest douche working for ESPiN. He has taken shot after shot at tOSU.

ESPN - What's hot (and not) from bowl season - College Football

"The Vest". Ohio State's Jim Tressel faced serious questions after his team lost badly in the BCS title game for the second year in a row. But give the head Buckeye credit: Tressel faced the masses, flying commercial out of New Orleans the day after his team lost.

 

[shetuck]

I thought for sure this team would grow to its full potential, but to implode like we saw them do is very disturbing.

pretty strong words. too strong, imo... by the looks of things, you'v been on this board a long long time. what's puzzling, with all due respect to that, Kippy, is that one would think you would know better than to post these defeatist and unconstructive ramblings on here...

Watching Tressel up in Y-Town all those years winning in convincing style told me he was the man for OhioState. Living here in the south and taking all the abuse from sports radio media is nausiating. They laugh at the BIG 10 and all OhioState people with sarcastic remarks on how slow we are. You all up in Columbus and in other Ohio cities don't have to listen to all the crap that JaxBuck and I hear month after month.

to quote JT, himself, in his post-game presser:

"if you're not tough enough to handle criticism, then you better get out of this game... If you struggle taking criticism, then you need to not be at Ohio State..."​

Maybe a coaching staff shake up and less duties for JT would be in order. But the past two years in the real heat of battle is not the Tressel teams that I thought I would see.

what Tressel teams, pray tell, did your crystal ball foretell? teams that don't make it to the NC 3 out of 6 years?

There is something really terribly wrong going
down UP in the Bowels of Ohio State fooball. We go 6 years out of 7 yrs
beating the tsun and everybody is Happy?

Again, very very strong words; almost egregious, if you ask me. You might want to reconsider your word choice(s).

Then we are awarded 3 years
in a national championship game, just barley winning the one in 2003, then the wheels coming off the wagon 2 years running, just doesn't make any sense to me and what direction Ohio State football is going. And now many OSU faithfull are coming to the Idea of comparing Jim Tressel to John Cooper. For what ever reason that is thrown to the table is beyond me.

3 losses in two years. yeah, that's the sound of wheels coming off the wagon. your delusional band-wagon, that is.

just out of curiosity, what direction would you like Ohio State football to go towards?

anyone who compares JT to Coop is: 1. by definition, not one of the "faithful"; 2. doesn't understand JT; 3. didn't live thourgh the Coop-era. what's beyond me, is why you would even bring up the notion that the "faithfull" are bringing that up!

The 2008 Ohio State Buckeyes will be a solid football team on PAPER but will they be able to prove thier worth and back it up with a different plan. That I guess remains to be seen. I feel alittle better now that I got this RANT off my chest. I suppose if I lived back up in Ohio, i would feel different but being a Faithfull Follower of Buckeye Football here in the deep south is pretty hard to take right now.

prove their worth to who? you? i'm sure they'd be so tremendously humbled if you'd give them a chance to make it up to you next year. you are, after all, the single solitary fan that they use to measure their self-worth and athletic achievement. what a load... :moo:

Maybe in a week or two, i will cool off and life will go on once again. AT least I hope so.

Maybe what you should have done, instead, is hold off on posting your thoughts until you've come out the other side of your deep and dark meltdown tunnel, and then made a post Kiper Jr...

 

[buckeyesin07]

Schlabach is pushing Skip Bayless for the title of biggest douche working for ESPiN. He has taken shot after shot at tOSU.

Wait a second here--that discussion cannot end without reference to Mark May.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Wait a second here--that discussion cannot end without reference to Mark May.

I can't list all the douches that work for ESPiN. It would take too long.

 

[RugbyBuck]

Ain't it great to be hated by the masses? When I was at tOSU we weren't nationally relevant and nobody on the radio down in SEC cuntry ever talked about us one way or the other. Now, we are the very best PROGRAM in the country. I truly don't think it's even close. Admittedly, there is some bias, but that goes out the window when one talks about his kids, hypothetical or not, and if I had a son who was a blue-chip football talent, I wouldn't want him playing for anyone other than Tressel.

The SEC'ers just really don't know what they're talking about. They've never seen the 'Shoe or the campus or gone to The Game. I know, I was one of them at one point. Sanford Stadium at UGA was the best I'd ever seen and the "Whurl's Biggest Dadgum Cocktale Potty" was the ultimate rivalry game. This changed the first time I saw Ohio Stadium and then experienced a game day. Since then, Geiger and Company have completely upgraded EVERYTHING in every sport.

All the haters out there can just drone on incessantly. I'd just respond like my ten year old daughter: "Whatever". They just don't matter. They don't and won't know what it's like to pick up a buckeye from the AA grove and bring it back to a two year old that you're not sure will live to ever see a game at the 'Shoe. Fuck them. They couldn't possibly understand why I'm crying banging this out at a Starbucks in Atlanta (actually, I can't either), but I'm goddamn sure that Tressel would.

Folks, it means something different to all of us, but we all understand it and they don't.

 

[osugrad21]

Wow.

1968.

2002.

Long damn time.

We've become spoiled if we truly think 6 out of 7 over TSUN and 5 major bowl games is a sign of "something really terribly wrong going
down UP in the Bowels of Ohio State fooball."

I'm disappointed as you all are, but seriously...10 years ago, the losses cost us conference championsips and we didn't even consider a bowl win.

...and NOW we have severe issues?

I saw this question posted on another board and thought it was a great position:

If Tressel is at tOSU for 7 more years and retires,and he goes 6-1 against TSUN and plays in 3 BCS Championships (winning one and losing two), how would you rate his career?

2/6 NCs, 12/14 vs. TSUN, a number of B10 titles...

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Not to get to far off the thread topic which is JT....but I have to comment....

I remember the days when we could not beat Michigan let alone win a bowl. JT in just 7 years has us at the top of college football. I don't see any issues. Some of you need to relax.

We also have lacked the ability to overcome deficits.

We were down to Washington and Wisconsin this year and somehow got the W....not sure about your comment.

know most people discounted the fighting that went on at half time (and pre game before last years NCG), but anyone who's played a team sport knows fighting is a sign that somethings wrong within the team. If one of your leaders states the lockerroom looked like a bar fight at halftime, someone needs to step up and take charge and make a change.

Do not believe everything you read in a newspaper. Everyone who has played an organized sport has experienced adversity and sometimes young players do not handle it very well. Tempers flared but it was not a big as protrayed. Far from a lack of discipline from the team.

Going 11-1 is awesome and I'm not going to complain about that EVER.

We are actually 11-2

Freeman lost some stock because he was invisible during the NCG.

Hard to be a factor with our struggles on the defensive line....just an opinion.

 

[daveeb]

Wow.

1968.

2002.

Long damn time.

We've become spoiled if we truly think 6 out of 7 over TSUN and 5 major bowl games is a sign of "something really terribly wrong going
down UP in the Bowels of Ohio State fooball."

I'm disappointed as you all are, but seriously...10 years ago, the losses cost us conference championsips and we didn't even consider a bowl win.

...and NOW we have severe issues?

I saw this question posted on another board and thought it was a great position:

If Tressel is at tOSU for 7 more years and retires,and he goes 6-1 against TSUN and plays in 3 BCS Championships (winning one and losing two), how would you rate his career?

Second only to Woody.

 

[osugrad21]

There was no fight at halftime...players took exception to Ray Small's lack of effort on the INT and told him about it.

No punches, no shoving...

USC/Oklahoma...each lost their last NC games, no?

I would also note that Oklahoma was blown out of the water in one of those...and USC lost 2 years ago due to what was called some "questionable" coaching...in hindsight of course which is usually the case when one ponders the choices of a coach.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Then we are awarded 3 years in a national championship game, just barley winning the one in 2003, then the wheels coming off the wagon 2 years running, just doesn't make any sense to me and what direction Ohio State football is going.

Um, maybe you need to get a grip, or something.

The number of teams during the Tressel era that have played in more BCS championship games than Ohio State: 0
The number of teams during the Tressel era that have played in as many BCS championship games as Ohio State: 0
The number of teams during the Tressel era that have played in less BCS championship games than Ohio State: 118
The number of teams during the Tressel era that have more BCS titles than Ohio State: 1 (LSU)
The number of teams during the Tressel era that have as many BCS titles as Ohio State: 4 (Miami, Southern Cal, Texas, Florida)
The number of teams during the Tressel era that have less BCS titles than Ohio State: 113 (Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, etc.)

Is there something wrong with that "direction"?

One thing I do not understand about this board is the disregard and blasting that goes on when someone critiques a player of coach on here.... We are here to post opinions and get different points of view, rather than blasting members, why not just offer why you feel differently.

It's funny how all of the pot-stirrers complain about the lack of comity on BP....

We lose games not due to lack of talent (something I could accept), but because we lack discipline and the right schemes.

99% of all losses, in all sports, at all levels, are due to lack of talent.

But there comes a time when you have to decide what you want to be, a USC/Oklahoma or a Michigan. Are we content on just winning the Big Ten, or do we expect to be in the NCG and win it.

Ohio State is 1 for 3 in BCS title games. Funny thing is, so is Oklahoma. And USC is 1 for 2. Michigan is 0 for 0. So why is Ohio State more like Michigan than USC or Oklahoma?

I will say one thing, I think we tend to have a big problem with guys leaving early, and it hurts us.

Like it or not, college football players are in training for the NFL. They leave when they are ready ... and they make millions of dollars playing the game that they love. And they should pass up that golden opportunity to stay at Ohio State to sing Carmen Ohio after the game? That's the reality of college football today, so get used to it.

 

[Buckin' A]

Wow...I'm amazed at some of the comments.

Instead of criticizing the music, why don't you just be happy to be dancing...

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

After experiencing the Cooper years......for me.....the Tressel era is like a dream come true.......I have to believe that some of the posts in this thread and others on BP are from posters who never experienced Cooper and his annual "choke" against Michigan.

Instead of focusing on 41-14 and 38-24....focus on the overall product on and off the field.....I also like the numbers 6-1 vs Michigan and 4 Big Ten Championships.

 

[Bleed S & G]

I thought for sure this team would grow to its full potential, but to implode like we saw them do is very disturbing.

we were picked to finish 3rd in the big 10, i think its safe to say we hit our full potential this season.. we didn't bring our A game to NOLA and LSU did. Dosen't cheapen a great season in my eyes, nor does it diminish kicking the shit out of scUM.

The 2008 Ohio State Buckeyes will be a solid football team on PAPER but will they be able to prove thier worth and back it up with a different plan. That I guess remains to be seen.

I guess it does remain to be seen, since they have yet to begin summer workouts.. jeesh