2006 Tour de France - Floyd Landis

[Oh8ch]

I am sorry but as soon as the athlete starts attacking the testers and talking like he heard shots from the grassy knoll I loose interest.

Normally I would agree, but the groups associated with this testing do have credibility issues and the points he makes about annonymity carry some weight. The cyclists are not the only ones who cheat in this sport.

I said it the day he won the stage, I am glad as long as he does not fail the test because humans do not perform like that without help.

I would agree here as well, but I have yet to read an account suggesting what substance he could have taken that would have given him that kind of overnight performance boost and not have shown up earlier or had a comparable effect earlier.


As for tibor, if he ever dedicates his life to an extraordinary accomplishment for a decade or so I will look forward to his crashing and burning as well.

 

[Folanator]

Normally I would agree, but the groups associated with this testing do have credibility issues and the points he makes about annonymity carry some weight. The cyclists are not the only ones who cheat in this sport.



I would agree here as well, but I have yet to read an account suggesting what substance he could have taken that would have given him that kind of overnight performance boost and not have shown up earlier or had a comparable effect earlier.


As for tibor, if he ever dedicates his life to an extraordinary accomplishment for a decade or so I will look forward to his crashing and burning as well.

Point 1# the number of athletes that have gone down this road is countless, the number of labs that have cheated I think is much much smaller if any.

Point #2 they put a testosterone patch on his nut sack over night. It accelerates recovery and generally leaves no trace unless you leave it on too long. It is also washed out before testing the following day with copious amounts of water, I am sure you saw how much he drank during the stage.

Point #3 Tibor does do something very well and that is being the king of all douche bags. He cannot wear a patch for recovery because he has no testicles. Wonder if they make a vagina patch?

 

[tibor75]

Point #3 Tibor does do something very well and that is being the king of all douche bags. He cannot wear a patch for recovery because he has no testicles. Wonder if they make a vagina patch?

If you're looking for the opposite of testosterone, I would suggest "estrogen" instead of "vagina"

I can see that basic female anatomy and female reproduction isn't your strong suit. Not surprising.

 

[BB73]

It seemed pretty clear to me that he was talking about the opposite of testicles, not testosterone. Maybe you would have preferred a mention of ovaries?

 

[Folanator]

If you're looking for the opposite of testosterone, I would suggest "estrogen" instead of "vagina"

I can see that basic female anatomy and female reproduction isn't your strong suit. Not surprising.

Thanks, but I can tell who is a cunt when I read it.

 

[Taosman]

I think at this point we can stop the attacks and get back on subject.

The people I have talked to say he probably used a "patch".
But, the question in my mind is, Does wearing a patch for just one day really have such a dramatic effect?
I would think you would need to wear one or get shots for multiple days?

 

[jwinslow]

But, the question in my mind is, Does wearing a patch for just one day really have such a dramatic effect?
I would think you would need to wear one or get shots for multiple days?

that's been covered ad nauseum by talking heads on the radio... you have to take it for a long time to see minimal benefit.

 

[Taosman]

So, it would seem that he would have to be on "the patch" for some time.
Thus making his tests more likely to show changes and test positive.
This will be interesting when it goes to court.


What are anabolic steroids?
Anabolic steroids are synthetic compounds that resemble the natural hormone testosterone. Makers of anabolic steroids change the testosterone molecule slightly to change the balance of androgenic and anabolic effects, which can allow these drugs to build muscle with fewer masculinizing effects.

How are these drugs used?

To treat hypogonadism
Sometimes HIV-positive men develop low testosterone levels which can cause symptoms of fatigue, muscle wasting, low (or no) sex drive, impotence, and loss of facial or body hair. This condition is called hypogonadism. Hormone replacement therapy with synthetic testosterone may help to relieve those symptoms.

HIV-positive women may also develop low testosterone levels and experience symptoms of fatigue, loss of sex drive, and a decreased sense of well-being. Because the androgenic (masculinizing) effects of testosterone and anabolic steroids can be permanent, researchers have been cautious about studying these drugs in women.

To treat weight loss
Anabolic steroids can be used in order to build muscle mass and improve strength and endurance. They can increase the body's own ability to use protein to make muscle. Anabolics work best when combined with a high-protein diet and regular strength training.

Dosage
Testosterone, whether taken orally or by injection into muscle, is metabolized (broken down) very quickly and efficiently by the liver. New testosterone patches can be applied to the skin, allowing the hormone to be released slowly. Manufacturers of anabolic steroids change the testosterone molecule slightly so that their products are metabolized much more slowly, allowing the effects to last longer with less frequent dosing.

The use of anabolic steroids can raise blood levels of testosterone well above a person's normal range. As a result, the body may try to regulate testosterone levels by shutting down its own production of testosterone. In order to prevent this, people usually use anabolics in cycles of a few weeks on and then off.

The dosage and cycle should be decided in consultation with a physician. Short cycles (6-8 weeks) are often the most beneficial, in order to minimize potential side effects and maximize potential benefit. Often the most muscle gain occurs in the first month of the cycle.

Side effects
Many of the unwanted side effects of testosterone and anabolic steroids come from their androgenic properties. These drugs can raise blood levels of testosterone, causing side effects which vary from person to person.

The most common side effects in both men and women include increased facial and body hair, oily skin or acne, male pattern baldness, water retention, joint stiffness, and soreness at the injection site. Lab tests may show increased levels of liver enzymes. A deepened or hoarsened voice, growth of the clitoris, and menstrual irregularities have been reported in women. The masculinizing side effects may be irreversible in women, even with short term use.

At higher doses over longer periods, increased or decreased sex drive, mood swings, aggressive behaviour, persistent painful erections, shrinking testicles, and breast growth have been reported in men. Long term use of high dose anabolics can damage the liver, causing jaundice, hepatitis, bleeding, or, possibly, cancer.

Products

testosterone cypionate (sold as Depo-Testosterone Cypionate)
The effect of Depo-Testosterone Cypionate is sustained longer in the body than anabolic steroids. A single injection of 200-400mg is given once every 2-4 weeks, then a rest period of 4 weeks, followed by another injection once every 2-4 weeks.

transdermal testosterone (the "patch")
Testosterone patches allow a slow, steady release of the hormone into the body. The Testoderm patch is applied daily to a man's shaved scrotum. The newer Androderm patch can be applied daily to the upper arms, back, thighs, or abdomen.

Miller and colleagues conducted a 12-week pilot study of an experimental low-dose testosterone patch for women. Fifty-three HIV-positive women who had lost about 10% of their normal body weight, and whose blood levels of testosterone were below the normal reference range took part in the study. They were randomly assigned to receive either a placebo patch, a patch releasing 150 micrograms of testosterone daily, or a patch releasing 300 micrograms of testosterone daily. Although the patches restored testosterone levels to normal, only the women who had used the 150 microgram patch gained weight. Unfortunately, all of the weight gained was fat, not muscle mass.

 

[Folanator]

OK, lets say it is given that the ratio thing was screwed up by the lab. I think that might even be plausible. I still can not get over the synthetic being present without some giant conspiracy theory against American cyclist. I just have a hard time making that jump.

It seems like it is the same attitude that allows us to think that there is a terrorist waiting to blow up the US at all times. We seem to be so driven by the notion that the entire world is out to get Americans that we let people manipulate these fears. I think that is what Landis is praying on right now. That we think the Europeans are trying to get us at all times. he is just using that to cover his tracks.

 

[Folanator]

End of the road for Phonak
Landis affair final straw for beleaguered Swiss team
By Andrew Hood
VeloNews European correspondent

This report filed August 15, 2006
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Floyd Landis might be able to keep his Tour de France crown if he wins his doping case in arbitration, but his Phonak team won't be around next season even if he does.[/SIZE][/FONT]
<TABLE height=194 width=240 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=240 height=194></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rihs celebrates in Paris with Floyd Landis in what turned out to be the calm before a fatal storm.[/FONT]

</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]photo: AFP[/FONT]

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Team owner Andy Rihs announced Tuesday that Phonak will fold at the end of the 2006 season after its new title sponsor pulled out of the deal in the wake of Landis doping scandal.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Rihs said the Landis case was the final straw in his growing frustration over doping controversies that have dogged the team for more than two seasons.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]"As a passionate cycling fan, I am bitterly disappointed that the sport of cycling has apparently become a synonym for doping," Rihs said in a statement during a press conference Tuesday morning in Zürich. "I truly regret this development and it has brought me to the decision of disbanding the Phonak team at the end of 2006."[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The troubled Swiss team - stung by a string of doping controversies that include the 2004 blood doping cases of Tyler Hamilton and Santi Pérez - will continue racing through the 2006 season, but riders and staff have been told they should search for new jobs.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]"We will never enter a team in the Tour de France again," team manager John Lelangue said in a press conference. "What Landis does is up to him."[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Rihs said new title sponsor iShares - the San Francisco-based online investment service owned by Barclay's - balked on its commitment to take over as a team sponsor for the 2007-09 seasons after Landis tested positive for irregular levels of testosterone in urine samples taken after winning the Tour's 17th stage.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Rihs said he has since worked "day and night" to try to find a new sponsor, but the uncertainty of the team's ProTour license, set for renewal at the end of this season, also hastened his decision to end the team's seven-year run.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]"Three weeks ago, we were the winners of the Tour de France, we were overjoyed, the sponsors were queuing up to join us ... and then suddenly this blow," Rihs said. "Today I see myself forced to do something I have never done in my whole life as a businessman: I have given up."[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Landis, 30, has vehemently denied he cheated to win the Tour, but he could become the first Tour victor to have his title stripped for doping charges. The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has opened disciplinary procedures against him after he failed post-stage urine tests en route to winning into Morzine.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Dogged by doping
The Landis scandal proved one too many for Rihs, an amiable Swiss entrepreneur whose passion for cycling prompted him to spend millions of dollars to attract cycling's top stars to his team. Rihs started the team in 1999 under the Phonak banner, the hearing aid company he owns.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Some criticized Rihs for being too soft on his riders and staff and for turning a blind eye to early doping allegations.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Following the disastrous 2004 season - when former world champion Oscar Carmenzind tested positive for EPO and Olympic time trial champion Hamilton and Vuelta runner-up Pérez both tested positive for illegal blood transfusions - Rihs fired the team's manager and sport director in an effort to clean house.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]In 2005, Rihs brought in former Tour de France official John Lelangue as manager and experienced Spanish director Juan Fernández, who helped steer Festina through troubled waters following the synonymous doping scandal in 1998.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The team also instituted strict, internal testing to augment UCI doping controls and even fired Spanish rider Santos González, who was sitting in the top 10 in the final week of the Vuelta, for returning irregular readings in team-conducted blood tests.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Phonak only earned its entrée into the 20-team ProTour league following a lengthy legal appeal.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]But troubles continued in 2006, first with Swiss rider Sascha Urweider, who was fired in February and banned by the Swiss Olympic federation for two years after he also tested positive for excess testosterone.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Giro runner-up José Enrique Gutiérrez and Santiago Botero were both dropped from the team in early June after their names appeared in media reports linking them to the ongoing "Operación Puerto" doping investigation in Spain.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Landis lands in trouble
That didn't dim the team's optimism and Landis entered the 2006 Tour as a dark horse outsider to succeed Lance Armstrong's seven-year run in the yellow jersey.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The ex-mountain biker grabbed the lead in the Pyrénées, but his team confounded traditional tactics and let Spanish rider Oscar Pereiro ride nearly 30 minutes ahead in a transition stage into Montélimar to gain the maillot jaune.[/SIZE][/FONT]
<TABLE height=195 width=200 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=200 height=195></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Landis lost time on Stage 16, but he didn't lose hope.[/FONT]

</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]photo: AFP[/FONT]

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Despite heavy criticism, Phonak's tactic seemed to work when Landis regained the lead on the climbing stage up Alpe d'Huez. The next day, however, Landis struggled on Stage 16, a difficult day that finished atop La Toussuire. Landis lost nearly 10 minutes on the final climb and plummeted from first to 11th in the overall standings. It was one of the most dramatic collapses ever experienced by a rider in the yellow jersey.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Most pundits wrote him off, but the next day Landis rode miraculously in the final, five-climb stage across the Alps to win an epic solo ride to Morzine. Landis found himself back in contention with an effort that many called the most dramatic comeback in the Tour's history.[/SIZE][/FONT]
<TABLE height=304 width=240 align=right><TBODY><TR><TD width=240 height=304></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Landis rode one of the most remarkable stages in Tour history. Was it too remarkable?[/FONT]

</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]photo: AFP[/FONT]

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Post-stage urine samples, however, later revealed an irregular testosterone/epitestosterone ratio. Epitestosterone, a seemingly benign hormone, is generally produced by the body at the same rate as testosterone. Normally, an adult male would have a ratio of 1:1. Landis showed a T/E ratio of 11:1, well above the 4:1 allowed under international anti-doping rules. Later analysis, using a carbon isotope ratio test, suggested that the testosterone was from an external source.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Landis would later make up the differences in the final time trial and ride into Paris triumphant as only the third American to win the Tour.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Three days later, the UCI released a statement saying a Tour rider had come back with an "adverse analytical finding." Thirty-six hours later, Landis was revealed to be the rider in question and was eventually fired after his counter-analysis came back positive.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Landis, meanwhile, continues to insist that he didn't cheat and has hired high-profile lawyers on both sides of the Atlantic to prepare his defense. <HR width="29%"><SMALL>This message was posted on Phonak's web site Tuesday morning ...

Team owner Andy Rihs withdraws from pro cycling. After carefully examining all the alternatives, he will disband the Phonak Cycling Team at the end of the year. The deciding factor in this decision is the doping case of team captain Floyd Landis.
"As a passionate cyclist, I am bitterly disappointed that the sport of cycling apparently has become a synonym for doping. I truly regret this development and it has brought me to the decision of disbanding the Phonak Cycling Team per the end of 2006," Andy Rihs explains the reason for his decision. He has done everything possible to avoid any doping cases in his team and had even introduced the strictest controls internally of all ProTour teams. Nevertheless, the fatal solo initiative of one rider could not be avoided. "For this reason, today I see myself forced to do something I have never done in my whole life as a businessman: I have given up!"
Rihs said and emphasized that this decision has been very difficult for him.
"I am particularly sorry for our young promising Swiss riders who share no guilt in this development, as well as for the competent staff members."
The team offered numerous young as well as experienced Swiss and international riders the opportunity of participating in the sport of cycling at its highest level over the last seven years.
"I deeply regret that I can no longer do this in the future."
Together with the team management, Rihs intensively looked for alternatives over the last several days. However, after careful consideration and examination of all possibilities, it has become clear that successor solutions for the Phonak Cycling Team are not possible - for financial reasons and also due to the uncertainty with regard to the renewal of the ProTour licence that expires at the end of this year. Rihs came to an agreement with the new global title sponsor iShares regarding an early termination of the title sponsorship contract. The team will continue to participate in all the races scheduled for the remainder of 2006. The riders will thus have the opportunity of presenting themselves as valid candidates for other teams. Also, Rihs will support - wherever possible - the employees, in particular the young Swiss riders, in their searches for new jobs.
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[Folanator]

An Open Letter to the Phonak Professional Cycling Team

Dear Andy, John, my teammates and staff:
When I joined the Phonak Cycling team, it was our ultimate goal to win the Tour de France. On Sunday, July 23rd, 2006, we achieved that goal.
With the dedication and support of the entire team and staff, we overcame impossible odds to make the 2006 Tour de France one of the most exciting races in its history. When the race arrived in Paris on the final day, we had the Yellow Jersey.
Winning the tour with Phonak makes me very proud. Andy, you have assembled an excellent organization, staff and team. You never wavered in your commitment to the team and your athletes despite the struggles you've faced in the past. It makes me happy to have won the Tour with and for Phonak. You deserved to be on the podium with me.
While the recent allegations against me hurt us all, I respect the fact that the Phonak team must follow its own rules and charter under these circumstances. I just wish that all the parties involved would do the same. Despite this, I will not relent on my pursuit of the truth. I will not shy away from this fight.
Most of all, I understand that this situation impacts families and friends other than my own. It affects the businesses and sponsors that support cycling as well as the sport itself. It is for this reason that I am determined to show that I followed the rules and won fairly and cleanly. There is a greater integrity at stake here than just my own.
I thank you all for your support and courage as I embark on this journey to restore my name, the team's name and the image of cycling.
Thanks, Floyd Landis
2006 Tour de France Champion

 

[Folanator]

Cyclist Landis' father-in-law commits suicide

Eeesh. When it rains it pours. Tough time for the Landis family these days. :(

By Debbi Farr Baker
UNION-TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS TEAM

1:46 p.m. August 16, 2006

<!-- BODYTEXT -->SAN DIEGO – David Witt, the 57-year-old father-in-law of embattled Tour de France winner Floyd Landis has died, authorities said Wednesday.
Witt was found dead in his car Tuesday afternoon in a North Park parking garage, according to his friends.
An investigator with the San Diego County Medical Examiner's office confirmed Witt's death but said the cause was still under investigation.
San Diego police reported that a man had committed suicide Tuesday afternoon in a parking garage in North Park. The man was found at 3:14 p.m. and was taken to Mercy Hospital where he was pronounced dead, said San Diego police Detective Gary Hassen.
Witt and his wife Rose own Hawthorn's restaurant in North Park on 29th Street and University Avenue, where Landis memorabilia, including two of his jerseys and several magazine covers, adorn the walls.
Andres Banuelos, a chef for Witt for more than 18 years, confirmed Witt's death.
“He was very nice, a very happy man,” Banuelos said. “I really don't know what happened. It surprised me. I'm shocked.”
Witt and Landis first became friends when they used the same cycling coach and became roommates in 1998 shortly after Landis moved to San Diego.
The two later became related after Witt introduced Landis to his girlfriend Rose's daughter from a previous marriage, Amber Basile. The two couples married, and the former roommates were best men in each other's weddings.
In July, Witt and his wife went to France to watch Landis' victory at the ceremonial finish of the Tour de France on the Champs-Elysees. Landis, who lives in Murrieta, has since tested positive for testosterone and his Tour victory is in jeopardy.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Lapse may jeopardize case against Landis

The doping case against Floyd Landis from last year's Tour de France may be in trouble.
The Los Angeles Times first reported Friday the French laboratory that handled the test results may have allowed improper access to Landis' urine samples, citing records that had been turned over to the cyclist's defense team. Similar previous lapses in protocol have resulted in the dismissal of doping cases against athletes.
According to the report, two technicians who analyzed the "A" sample on Landis were involved in tests on the second "B" sample, which is used to confirm the first test. International lab standards do not allow the same technicians to work on both tests to prevent them from attempting to validate their original findings.


Landis told ESPN.com he was buoyed by the release of evidence that the same French lab technicians were involved in analysis of both his A and B samples. The apparent procedural violation is similar to one committed at the same lab that resulted in last year's decision by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to drop doping charges against Spanish cyclist Inigo Landaluze, who, like Landis, was alleged to have used testosterone.
But Landis said he's not optimistic about being cleared to compete anytime soon.

Entire article: http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=2776315

 

[BB73]

Landis admits to doping in his career, including during the 2006 Tour in which he finished first and was later stripped of the title.

He accuses Armstrong and others of doping, ensuring that the story will get a lot of attention.

Landis admits doping, accuses Lance

Nearly four years after he began waging a costly, draining, and ultimately losing battle to discredit his positive test for synthetic testosterone at the 2006 Tour de France, Floyd Landis told ESPN.com on Wednesday that he used performance-enhancing drugs for most of his career as a professional road cyclist, including the race whose title he briefly held.

In a lengthy telephone interview from California, Landis detailed extensive, consistent use of the red blood cell booster erythropoietin (commonly known as EPO), testosterone, human growth hormone and frequent blood transfusions, along with female hormones and a one-time experiment with insulin, during the years he rode for the U.S. Postal Service and Switzerland-based Phonak team.

In clips from an interview with ESPN.com's Bonnie D. Ford, cyclist Floyd Landis talks about why he wanted to clear his conscience about his doping past.

Landis confirmed he sent e-mails to cycling and anti-doping officials over the past few weeks, implicating dozens of other athletes, including seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong; team management and owners; and officials of the sport's national and international governing bodies. ESPN.com is in the process of seeking comment from those individuals. Armstrong has long been dogged by accusations that he used performance-enhancing drugs, but no anti-doping authority has ever confirmed that he tested positive.

Armstrong, who is currently competing in the Tour of California, told reporters Thursday: "I have nothing to hide," and "history speaks for itself here."

"It's his word versus ours ... we like our word, we like our credibility," Armstrong said.

Landis also accused American riders Levi Leipheimer and Dave Zabriskie and Armstrong's longtime coach, Johan Bruyneel, of involvement in doping.

The World Anti-Doping Agency said in a statement Thursday that they would open an investigation into Landis' allegations.

"WADA is aware of the serious allegations made by Mr Landis. We are very interested in learning more about this matter and we will liaise with the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) and any other authorities with appropriate jurisdiction to get to the heart of the issues raised. WADA looks forward to these further investigations and enquiries by those responsible."

International Cycling Union (UCI) president Pat McQuaid said Landis' allegations were "scandalous and mischievous."

Cont'd ...

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Floyd who?