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Game Thread (2004) Game Three: @ NCState - 9/18/04 (W, 3-0)

Clarity

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<center><table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 width="96%" bgcolor="#000000"> <!-- GAME 3:2004 --> <tr> <td rowspan=4 width="100" align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#464646"> <font face="Verdana" color="#5f5f5f"><font size=6>W/L</font><br> <font size=3>(0-0)</font> </td> <td colspan=5 align="left" bgcolor="#464646"><font face="Verdana" color="#ffffff"> Game 3: September 18, 2004 (3:30pm) - ABC</font> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="50%" align="right" bgcolor="#b90000" valign="top"> <font color="#ffffff" face="Verdana"><b><font size="4">Ohio State</font><br> Buckeyes<br></b></font> </td> <td width="1" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <img src="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/imgops/helmets/Ohio_St.gif" width="80" height="53" alt="Ohio State"> </td> <td width="1" bgcolor="#b90000"> <font size="5" face="Verdana" color="#ffffff"><b>@</b></font> <td width="1" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <img src="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/imgops/helmets/North_Carolina_St.gif" width="80" height="53" alt="North Carolina State"> </td> <td width="50%" valign="top" align="left" bgcolor="#b90000"> <font color="#ffffff" face="Verdana"><b><font size="4">NC State</font><br> Wolfpack<br></b><font size="2"> ACC<br> 2004 (0-0), 2003 (8-5)</font></font> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan=5 align="left" bgcolor="#bababa"><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Buckeyes are 1-0-0 (1.000) against North Carolina State, that win coming in the form of last year's (9/13/03) 3OT win in the Shoe, 44-38. Against the ACC, we are 10-7-0 (0.588), 3 of those losses against Florida State, who are one of the few schools we've played more than once, but have never beaten. NCSU plays in Raleigh, NC on grass in Carter-Finley Stadium, which has a capacity of 51,500.</font> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan=5 align="left" bgcolor="#a5a5a5"><font face="Verdana"><b> <font color="#5f5f5f">Discuss</font> : <a href="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/article.php?a=63">Game Preview</a> : Box Score : Recap : Quotes : Pictures</font></b> </td> </tr> </table><p><b><font size=3 face="Verdana"><a href="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=823"><< game two</a> | <a href="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/?page=schedule_2004">full schedule</a> | <a href="http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825">game four >></a></font></b></center>
 
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The single greatest thing that could happen in this game, aside from an OSU win of course, is another ball bouncing of RW's helmet.

I think NCSU has a good one in that kid, and I don't bear him any ill will (it's not like we're hurting at WR anyway), but that was *way* too funny and perfect last year.

I think this year I'll refer to him as *bonk*.
 
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Clarity said:
The single greatest thing that could happen in this game, aside from an OSU win of course, is another ball bouncing of RW's helmet.

I think NCSU has a good one in that kid, and I don't bear him any ill will (it's not like we're hurting at WR anyway), but that was *way* too funny and perfect last year.

I think this year I'll refer to him as *bonk*.


Oh oh and something creative happening to Morris as well.
 
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While I did like to see "Bonk" look a little silly, I will be far more satisfied watching Morris get abused and look real slow while our D line abuses there backfield. With all the mud flinging that this kid did after he could not get his way, he deserves everything he gets for our men!
 
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anyone planning on coming to this game. i live about an hour away and as long as i am not deployed i am definately going. should be a pretty good game. it will be interesting to see how our Starting QB(probably Zwick) reacts to their first game on the road.
 
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I'm sorry, but "lower abdominal strain" isn't really that specific on a kid like him. Mark an acre!

On a related subject, I think if they one of us drives an ice cream truck past Carter-Finley during the game, that'd be enough to take care of Morris for the rest of the day.:biggrin:
 
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The latest on CJ Hunter.

If he injected ex-wife, who else did he inject?

Jones' camp says 'lies, lies'
Attorneys for the Olympic champion say ex-husband's claims that he injected her with drugs aren't true.



Drug scandal figure C.J. Hunter, leaving N.C. State's football facility, has little to say Friday.
Staff Photo by Chris Seward

By NED BARNETT, Staff Writer

RALEIGH -- Marion Jones' attorneys, scrambling to douse what is now a fire of suspicion threatening her reputation, on Friday denounced her former husband, C.J. Hunter, as a liar for saying she had used performance-enhancing drugs.

Jones' general counsel, Rich Nichols, said Hunter's reported statements that Jones had injected drugs up to the time she competed in the 2000 Olympics were "lies, lies and still more lies."

Hunter reportedly made the allegation to an IRS investigator looking into Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, a California nutritional supplement company. Hunter's statements were leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle and published Friday.

Jones, a five-time Olympic medalist who lives near Chapel Hill, was not available for comment, but Nichols said that "she's not surprised that C.J. would lie about her."

Nichols and Joseph Burton, a former assistant U.S. Attorney who is defending Jones against a potential doping charge, also released a letter from Jones' personal physician, Dr. Richard Ferro of Duke University Medical Center.

The letter said Ferro saw no evidence that Jones had used performance-enhancing drugs since he began caring for her in 2001. However, the lawyers had no information from doctors who treated Jones before 2001, the period when Hunter said he sometimes personally injected Jones with such drugs

Jones and Hunter, an assistant strength and conditioning coach for N.C. State's football program, were divorced in 2002. A former world champion shot-putter, Hunter retired in 2000 after testing positive four times for the steroid nandrolone.

When Hunter's positive tests were disclosed at the Sydney Olympics, Jones attended a news conference to support her tearful husband, who said he was the victim of a contaminated iron supplement.

On Friday, Hunter declined to elaborate on his reported statements implicating Jones.

A News & Observer reporter who met Hunter as he went to his car outside N.C. State's Murphy Football Center asked, "Did you get drugs from BALCO and provide them for Marion Jones?"

When Hunter did not answer, he was asked whether he had "any comment at all."

"Yeah," Hunter said. "You've got to be kidding me."

Though Hunter's leaked statements damaged Jones, they also may complicate his position at NCSU. He has gone from being an athlete accused of doping to a coach who admitted supplying and injecting his ex-wife with drugs.

NCSU AD Lee Fowler could not be reached for comment Friday, but he previously has said he and football coach Chuck Amato were comfortable with Hunter supervising players' strength training.

One prominent faculty member said the athletics department may want to review Hunter's status.

Philip B. Carter, a professor of microbiology and immunology, is past chairman of the NCSU faculty senate and recently served on the school's athletics council.

"I'm sure Lee Fowler or Chuck Amato will want to ask questions and are monitoring this situation," Carter said Friday. "If [Hunter] is admitting being involved with steroids, I'm sure it will raise some red flags with his superiors. They will ask, 'How much of this is true, C.J., and does it involve any of our student-athletes?' "

Jones' attorneys also demanded an investigation into how Hunter's statements to a federal investigator became public. Nichols said the leak was the latest in a series that includes the leaked grand jury testimony of Jones' boyfriend, Tim Montgomery. In that testimony, Montgomery admitted using drugs.

Nichols said the leaks support the agenda of federal prosecutors and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

"This is character assassination of the worst kind where apparently the government and USADA are willing accomplices," he said.

Of the publishing of Hunter's comments, Burton said, "What took place yesterday is one of the worst examples of misconduct I have ever seen."

The IRS and other federal agencies are probing whether BALCO illegally supplied steroids to elite athletes. Company owner Victor Conte Jr. and three other men have been indicted.

USADA is moving to ban athletes who are found to have used BALCO's steroids. Sprinter Kelli White accepted a two-year ban after the agency confronted her with evidence from the BALCO case. It has informed Montgomery, and sprinters Michelle Collins, Chryste Gaines and Alvin Harrison that they are suspected of doping based on BALCO documents.

USADA has taken no action against Jones, who has qualified to compete in the long jump at the Olympics. But the agency has questioned her and may take action if it develops enough evidence that she has used drugs despite never having failed a drug test.

Jill Geer, a spokeswoman for USA Track and Field, the governing body of the sport, said Hunter's statements would have no immediate effect on Jones' Olympic eligibility. Any change would depend on action from USADA or the International Association of Athletics Federations.

"She is eligible just like every other athlete," Geer said. "The only way she would not be eligible is if she's suspended by IAAF or USADA."

Jones problems could affect her being chosen for the 4x100 and 4x400 relay teams, two events she ran in Sydney. U.S. Olympic coaches have indicated they will avoid placing on relay teams athletes who face or appear likely to face doping charges.

(Staff writers J.P. Giglio, Chip Alexander, Robbi Pickeral and Luciana Chavez contributed to this report.)


Staff writer Ned Barnett can be reached at 829-4555 or [email protected]
Staff writers J.P. Giglio, Chip Alexander, Robbi Pickeral and Luciana Chavez contributed to this report.
 
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"You have to think about it," Hall said. "The quarterback, all he has to do is deliver the ball. I'm not saying we won't miss [Rivers], but we won't be slowing down. We won't miss a beat because we have playmakers."

Gee Tramain, is that all the QB needs to do - deliver the ball. Piece of cake.

Published: Jul 26, 2004
Modified: Jul 26, 2004 7:14 AM
Quarterback queries kick off ACC
Pack, Cavs, Terps must replace leaders

By J.P. GIGLIO, Staff Writer

GREENSBORO -- Charlie Whitehurst sipped ice water and batted around questions from a group of reporters standing four deep around the Clemson quarterback's chair.

Whitehurst got the star treatment on Sunday at the ACC Kickoff, a question-and-answer session with the league's top players on a day thoroughly dominated by expansion talk.

If players weren't chatting about Miami, they were talking about Virginia Tech. Last year was the "Year of the Quarterback," for the ACC with N.C. State's Philip Rivers and Virginia's Matt Schaub fielding questions from everyone but Joan Rivers.

This year, even with eight of 11 starters back, the quarterbacks slid to the background.

"It's going to be a lot different," said Maryland senior guard C.J. Brooks, who was talking about his team and the loss of two-year starter Scott McBrien, but he could've said the same for N.C. State or Virginia.

"We're going to have to fill that void somehow with a younger quarterback. We're going to have to do a lot to help them out on the field."

Replacing quarterbacks is as much a part of college football as Keith Jackson and marching bands, but as a league, the ACC lost two of its all-time best in Rivers and Schaub, and a third in McBrien, who went 21-6 as a starter.

None of those three teams has named a starter for the 2004 season. N.C. State will choose between junior Jay Davis and redshirt freshman Marcus Stone. Maryland seems to be leaning toward using sophomore Joel Statham but has three freshmen who could win the job.

At Virginia, coach Al Groh is deciding between a talented quarterback-turned-receiver-turned-quarterback in Marques Hagans, a sophomore transfer in Christian Olsen or sophomore Anthony Martinez.

According to N.C. State's Tramain Hall, a junior receiver, the Wolfpack's new quarterback, who has to follow in the footsteps of the ACC career leading passer, will have plenty of help.

"You have to think about it," Hall said. "The quarterback, all he has to do is deliver the ball. I'm not saying we won't miss [Rivers], but we won't be slowing down. We won't miss a beat because we have playmakers."

Rivers, Schaub and McBrien made plays in 2003. The trio finished 1-2-3 atop the league's passer-ratings.

"There's definitely pretty good ones leaving," said Whitehurst, who threw for 3,561 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2003. "It's still rich with talent. I think we can reload."

With Whitehurst, Florida State's Chris Rix, Miami's Brock Berlin, Virginia Tech's Bryan Randall, Georgia Tech's Reggie Ball and North Carolina's Darian Durant, the league won't lack talent at the quarterback position.

"I think it's a better group," said Durant, the Tar Heels' career leader in passing yards and touchdown passes. "We're deeper as a group."

The group could ultimately be defined by the performance of Rix and Berlin, the high-profile names on the league's high-profile teams.

But with Rix and Berlin, come as many questions as their considerable talent.

Berlin took the brunt of the blame for the Hurricanes' 3-2 regular-season finish. He began the year as a Heisman hopeful, but his numbers never matched the hype, finishing with 17 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.

He was benched in a 31-7 loss at Virginia Tech and booed in a 10-6 home loss to Tennessee.

"That's the way it is at Miami," said Berlin, who transferred from Florida. "There are high expectations, and if you don't live up to them, that's going to happen. A lot of things went wrong at the end of the season."

Rix has his own band of naysayers -- despite amassing 7,525 career passing yards and 60 touchdowns -- at times including his own coach and teammates. Rix has been criticized for his lack of leadership.

"He's being more hands-on with the team," senior receiver Craphonso Thorpe said. "He's becoming more of a team player."


Staff writer J.P. Giglio can be reached at 829-8938 or [email protected]

ACC Luncheon
 
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