#18 South Florida 21, #5 West Virginia 13 (Final)

[mooktarr]

Holy shit.....if you want to see the perfect example of a fanbase that can't handle winning (and the losing that eventually comes with it), go over to the WVU scout board.

WVU fans are lunatics.

Link Please.

 

[sandgk]

Link Please.

Fixed it for you.

 

[mooktarr]

One great thing out of this is that the Big east will not be laughing as much about tsun losing.

 

[ScarletBlood31]

One great thing out of this is that the Big east will not be laughing as much about tsun losing.

Couldn't be more wrong.



This game didn't show that the Big East is weak conference, in fact, it showed how much improved they are.

South Florida is the real deal. They already went on the road and beat Auburn, a #17 ranked member of the Holy Conference known as the SEC
( ), and beat West Virginia last year.


West Virginia may have not been overly impressive, but South Florida has a hell of a defense. I think this showed more that USF is ready to take the step up to the next level of recognition, rather than WVA being weak, and the Big East sucking.

I can honestly see either South Florida, or Rutgers (whoever wins the Big East), going on to a BCS bowl and knocking off a powerhouse from another elite conference.

 

[mooktarr]

Couldn't be more wrong.



This game didn't show that the Big East is weak conference, in fact, it showed how much improved they are.

South Florida is the real deal. They already went on the road and beat Auburn, a #17 ranked member of the Holy Conference known as the SEC
( ), and beat West Virginia last year.


West Virginia may have not been overly impressive, but South Florida has a hell of a defense. I think this showed more that USF is ready to take the step up to the next level of recognition, rather than WVA being weak, and the Big East sucking.

I can honestly see either South Florida, or Rutgers (whoever wins the Big East), going on to a BCS bowl and knocking off a powerhouse from another elite conference.

Look at it this way. Up until now the talk of sports world was how tsun lost to ASU and Oregon and how bad the B10 must be. Now they have something else to talk about. WV and SF. Don't delude yourself into thinking that SF is a powerhouse. They won on TO's. They gave up over 400 yards. They coughed up the ball 4 times. Their QB throws into double and triple coverage. That does not make for going undefeated.

 

[Jaxbuck]

One more nail in the Pat White is a good QB coffin: The WVU offense looked about the same to slightly better with the backup QB in. The backup QB looked about as good as White.

Moral to the story, you can't be a legit Heisman caliber QB if your team doesn't skip a beat when you are on the sideline for an entire half.

 

[jwinslow]

One more nail in the Pat White is a good QB coffin: The WVU offense looked about the same to slightly better with the backup QB in. The backup QB looked about as good as White.

Thought the same thing yesterday. I don't think they make that comeback with White, honestly. Give Brown the practice and game reps for a year and a half, and the gap may have been larger.

South Florida is the real deal. They already went on the road and beat Auburn, a #17 ranked member of the Holy Conference known as the SEC
(

), and beat West Virginia last year.

1) That win isn't looking very good anymore. They got embarrassed the next week as well against Miss St.
2) So the SEC is overrated, but USF gets big credit for knocking off them off? #17 was a silly preseason ranking given to them, not earned.

West Virginia may have not been overly impressive, but South Florida has a hell of a defense. I think this showed more that USF is ready to take the step up to the next level of recognition, rather than WVA being weak, and the Big East sucking.

It shows the conference is deeper... but the top of the big east has been greatly exposed.

I can honestly see either South Florida, or Rutgers (whoever wins the Big East), going on to a BCS bowl and knocking off a powerhouse from another elite conference.

I still don't know what Rutgers has done to deserve the national love they're receiving. They may be capable of this, but have not beaten anyone outside of the big east. Their best non-conference win was handing Kansas State their 6th loss of the season.

I need to see a lot more from USF's offense before treating them as a giant killer.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Couldn't be more wrong.



This game didn't show that the Big East is weak conference, in fact, it showed how much improved they are.

South Florida is the real deal. They already went on the road and beat Auburn, a #17 ranked member of the Holy Conference known as the SEC
( ), and beat West Virginia last year.


West Virginia may have not been overly impressive, but South Florida has a hell of a defense. I think this showed more that USF is ready to take the step up to the next level of recognition, rather than WVA being weak, and the Big East sucking.

I can honestly see either South Florida, or Rutgers (whoever wins the Big East), going on to a BCS bowl and knocking off a powerhouse from another elite conference.

Disagree completely.

USF, UC and Rutgers are all solid but not great teams. UL and WVU are gimmicky one dimensional teams that look good on paper untill they play someone legit.

The BE is better top to bottom than the ACC, thats about it. If their champ goes up against one of the elite teams that somehow missed the NC game (LSU, UF, USC, OU maybe even OSU) they will get drilled.

The UGA sleepwalk vs WVU a few years back was the exception, not the rule.

 

[sandgk]

This game didn't show that the Big East is weak conference, in fact, it showed how much improved they are.

Do you believe they merit having 50% of their conference ranked in the top 25 - a ratio only equaled by the SEC?
I certainly do not - improved they may be, though that is improvement over a previously lowly level.

I can honestly see either South Florida, or Rutgers (whoever wins the Big East), going on to a BCS bowl and knocking off a powerhouse from another elite conference.

Jury is still out on that as far as I am concerned. I think the voters will have serious questions to answer as the season moves forward. Questions like - parity or true excellent improvement in the Big East? As for BCS projections, it is highly likely that the Big East only gets their one bid filled - and probably by a team carrying more than one loss.
So, who might they play in that bowl game? If it is the #2 from the SEC (assuming LSU is in the title game) - that could put them head-to-head with Florida. No matter which team wins the Big East they lose that one hands down.
From the Big Ten, possibly it is the Buckeyes that they face (assuming we don't win out and get the Rose Bowl or equivalent) - I'll lay real money on the Buckeyes in that contest.

If they have to face off against the Big 12 it is likely against either Oklahoma - or possibly Texas - the former they get simply blasted, the latter maybe they can win, if Texas comes in deflated.

So, is your SFU or Rutgers (or a resurgent W. Va. Big East winner) vs elite powerhouse predicated on playing 2nd in line from the Pac-10? Today that projects to be Cal or Oregon. Given what we saw yesterday I'm not sure any of the three could hang with those two.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Lou Holtz was just pontificating about USF being the NKOTB, and mentioned that in 1946 Free Shoes was an all girls school. Mark May told him to watch it regarding shots towards Free Shoes because Lee Corso won't tolerate disparaging remarks. Lou replied, "Aw, i can whip Lee Corso."

 

[jwinslow]

Bump for 31 :p

 

[ScarletBlood31]

Alright, haha, maybe I was a little over excited after the win (dad is a USF alum), but I still believe that USF is playing football at a high level.

I was wrong about Rutgers, they were exposed today. The Big East conference as a whole has made me look a little foolish, but all in all they have good depth and the talent to still knock off top teams from other conferences.

USF's offense is shaky, I will agree. Grothe is a gamer, and has tremendous heart for a sophomore, and can win games for them just off of guts. But he does make a lot of bad decisions, and his gun-slinging mentality can backfire big time on occasion. Their RBs are pretty solid, and Mike Ford is a man for a true freshman. Their WR's drop a lot of passes, but all in all, the talent is there for the offense, they just need to be more consistent.

I know some of you have labeled the Auburn win as not as impressive considering how Auburn had turned out, but after seeing the Tigers knock off Florida in Gainesville tonight, I think USF gets a little more credit for that victory.

In my personal opinion, their defense is rock-solid. George Selvie is turning out to be a freak at DE, Ben Moffit is a great leader and playmaker at LB, and Mike Jenkins will be playing pro football as a DB.

I probably overreached as a whole on the Big East, but the programs are starting to be built for a legitimate conference. IMO they have passed the ACC, and are not close behind the Big 12, especially after seeing Oklahoma and Texas lose today. Lousiville is underachieving big time (and could probably use having a defense suit up for them one of these weeks), Rutgers had a letdown week, and WVA I think is still an explosive team, but lost to a good USF team.

 

[SparkyOSU]

I made much money for real!!!! $100 turned into $340 total on USF Straight up.