'12 NH C Nerlens Noel (Kentucky Signee)

[OhioState001]

Cal's looking for his refund.

 

[MaxBuck]

Very sad story. Heard Jeff Goodman interviewed today; Jeff has known Noel for about 6 years and said he's a good kid with outstanding work ethic - it shows when you watch Nerlens play. Hope his ACL heals and that his pro career can get off to a good start in 2013-14.

 

[Mike80]

Cal's looking for his refund.

recruiting violations just don't buy you what they used too....

 

[BayBuck]

Another sports journalist/advocate weighs in on the unfairness of life for kids who are blessed with amazing athletic ability and size:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebas...-all-the-risk-in-nba-one-and-done-rule-021313

Noel?s injury happened in an industry where he?s an unpaid cog in a multibillion-dollar machine. While Noel risked his NBA millions for scholarship money, we fueled the money-making machine of college sports ? spending hundreds of dollars for tickets to see him play, buying his jerseys, consuming the TV commercials during his games, writing and reading stories about him like this one ? Noel himself got a miniscule slice of the pie.
The reaction to Noel?s injury needs to be another call to unlink the top levels of college sports from the fantasy world of amateurism. Let?s stop pretending we actually care about the ?student? part of the elite ?student-athlete.?
Blah, blah, blah.

This is very original stuff by a real up-and-comer.

 

[Brutus1]

It's not like he pulled a Shawn Livingston. Plus, according to Calipari,
He's insured. It's a knee, it will heal. He'll still get drafted top 5 and make millions even if he never plays.

 

[bigdog3300]

Another sports journalist/advocate weighs in on the unfairness of life for kids who are blessed with amazing athletic ability and size:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebas...-all-the-risk-in-nba-one-and-done-rule-021313



This is very original stuff by a real up-and-comer.

I used to agree but I'm finding myself going more and more against that....

It's hard to say they get a "miniscule" slice of the pie...the kids in question have pretty much their selection of where to attend college, get a free education, books/food, and a chance to play in front of crowds in college competition. In short this can save them over $100K, and in the case that they redshirt and stay all 5 years they have an opportunity to complete a graduate degree....not too shabby. And what have they done to "earn" that offer? Perform at a very high level in HS and/or have great "potential." Could they cash in on that if there was no age limit in the NBA? Sure, but what professions don't have qualifications? And it's not like other leagues don't have such similar qualifications.

Now the one area where I can say I'd agree with is if they adopted the MLB model; either go pro or stay at least 3 years in college. But still, how many kids would not get drafted until the 2nd round, get a non-guarenteed contract, get cut and lose any chance of a college scholarship?

It will never be a perfect system but another alternative is to force HS entrants into the draft to NOT hire an agent; leaving them an option to take an NBA contract or they can go to college. I remember Voshon Lenard did this (while a JR in college), got drafted in the 2nd round but decided to return.

 

[BayBuck]

I used to agree but I'm finding myself going more and more against that....

It's hard to say they get a "miniscule" slice of the pie...the kids in question have pretty much their selection of where to attend college, get a free education, books/food, and a chance to play in front of crowds in college competition. In short this can save them over $100K, and in the case that they redshirt and stay all 5 years they have an opportunity to complete a graduate degree....not too shabby. And what have they done to "earn" that offer? Perform at a very high level in HS and/or have great "potential." Could they cash in on that if there was no age limit in the NBA? Sure, but what professions don't have qualifications? And it's not like other leagues don't have such similar qualifications.

Now the one area where I can say I'd agree with is if they adopted the MLB model; either go pro or stay at least 3 years in college. But still, how many kids would not get drafted until the 2nd round, get a non-guarenteed contract, get cut and lose any chance of a college scholarship?

It will never be a perfect system but another alternative is to force HS entrants into the draft to NOT hire an agent; leaving them an option to take an NBA contract or they can go to college. I remember Voshon Lenard did this (while a JR in college), got drafted in the 2nd round but decided to return.

Plus they can always go play a year in Europe.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Another sports journalist/advocate weighs in on the unfairness of life for kids who are blessed with amazing athletic ability and size

Unfairness? Give me a fucking break. 99.9% of college students would kill to have the chance to get a full ride to a college degree -- not just tuition, but books, fees, housing, food, the whole enchilada -- just for playing a fucking game.

Not directed at you BayBuck, but the author.

 

[BayBuck]

Unfairness? Give me a [censored]ing break. 99.9% of college students would kill to have the chance to get a full ride to a college degree -- not just tuition, but books, fees, housing, food, the whole enchilada -- just for playing a [censored]ing game.

WTF man? Give me a break, you elitist pr ick, putting words in my mouth, don't shoot the messenger or something, why don't you try reading before you fly off the handle at me?!

Not directed at you BayBuck, but the author.

Oh. My bad.

 

[CentralMOBuck]

It will never be a perfect system but another alternative is to force HS entrants into the draft to NOT hire an agent; leaving them an option to take an NBA contract or they can go to college. I remember Voshon Lenard did this (while a JR in college), got drafted in the 2nd round but decided to return.

Baseball does this right? Why can't the other sports?

 

[jlb1705]

Changed the picture of the injury on the previous page to a link. Some people are sensitive about that sort of thing.

 

[bigdog3300]

Baseball does this right? Why can't the other sports?

That's what I stated above, but gave an altnerative option (because I can't imagine the NBA bowing down to copy the MLB on a move like this).

And personally I think it's the best option; let the kids enter the draft if they want but don't hire an agent, see what they get offered and go from there. Either accept and play with a guaranteed contract or reject and go to school. It's similar to MLB but different in that it can be done in any year and forces HS kids (or college) to forego having an agent so they retain eligibility. Agents are the root of all evil in the world...

 

[LitlBuck]

I am thinking that this injury might adversely affect some kids who are straddling the fence about whether they should enter the draft or not. Some kids might look at this and say what is this what happened to me if I came back for my sophomore year so there might declare for the draft even if they know they are not going to be first-round selections. They could go over to Europe and make a nice living but if they suffer an injury like Noel all that gets put on hold for a year.

On another topic, I wonder how much that insurance policy costs that Noel has and who paid for it. Also, it would be interesting to know how many college players have that type of policy. Maybe colleges or the NCAA should look into purchasing that type of policy and maybe kids would be more opt to stay for another year or two.

 

[BayBuck]

On another topic, I wonder how much that insurance policy costs that Noel has and who paid for it. Also, it would be interesting to know how many college players have that type of policy. Maybe colleges or the NCAA should look into purchasing that type of policy and maybe kids would be more opt to stay for another year or two.

Some info from a Yahoo article on Jadeveon Clowney:

The maximum amount of insurance benefit that any player can get under the NCAA policy is $5 million, according to Chris Radford, an NCAA media relations official. "This insurance program is in place to protect against a career-ending injury, but should not be confused with a 'loss of value' policy, which the NCAA does not offer," Radford said. As first reported by FOXSports.com, Clowney is currently working on securing that much coverage.

To the credit of the NCAA, it has set up a program where a player can get a low-coast loan for the premium and pay it later. Typically, a $5 million policy will cost anywhere from $45,000 to $65,000, Salgado said. The premium is, like most insurance policies, dependent on a number of factors, including what position the player plays.
"The NCAA grades the athletes at anywhere from $1 million, $2 million, $3 million, $4 million, all the way up to $5 million and then lets the player go to a lender for the loan," said insurance broker Rich Salgado of Coastal Advisors LLC. "The player never actually gets the money, it's paid straight from the lender to the insurance company, so it's a very simple, tight system and it's a very, very good rate for the player. We would all be fortunate to borrow money at those rates."

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Oh. My bad.