OSU_Buckguy
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which high school senior post players do you know of that matta wouldn't be too late wooing... and are good enough?crazybuckfan40;1697392; said:
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crazybuckfan40
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OSU_Buckguy;1697399; said:
That wasn't the point I was making...the point was take the ship and use it on a 4 year guy in the 2011 class...and if the concern is on depth for next season, we have two guys that can fill that role already...
These situations have not shown to work out at all in the past...
The only one that worked out was Hunter and it was early in the process, and still a 4 year guy would of been better because they would of been able to help not only 06,07 but 08 and 09...out of mayes, Jernigan, Hill, Simmons, Kecman, Z, Madsen...Not a very good hit rate.
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OSU_Buckguy
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well, the unfortunate thing about all of this is that matta may be looking for a post player for 2010 because sullinger, apparently, has yet to achieve a qualifying act score. thomas looks to be in the same boat. matta may feel that he has been placed into a corner. i would be nervous, too, if the only two post-oriented players in a recruiting class have yet to receive the stamp of approval from the ncaa clearinghouse.crazybuckfan40;1697411; said:
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BigJim
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crazybuckfan40;1697392; said:
Can't say I disagree with the rest but for the bold...
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/buckeye-alumni/15824-pf-othello-hunter-official-thread.html
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buckeydoptimist
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crazybuckfan40;1697392; said:
I think the concern, and interest, is more geared toward the 2011/2012 season when Lauds will be gone and Sully may be gone as well.
That said, do you really think Zisis and Nikola can provide what Turpin can? How would you gauge that? Neither has shown squat at this level in 2-3 years. Zisis didn't do anything at UAB or here - and looks slow and lumbering and lost ( when you cannot beat Madsen for mins you are not very good ). Nikola put up questionable production at a low level JUCO ( under 4 rebounds a game IIRC ) and has shown nothing here yet to counter that.
I think Turpin has a lot more upside than either of those two: and it does help make that case that his father was so good in college and the NBA. It also helps his cause that he is just adjusting to a lot of growth and being uncoordinated due to it.
I understand wanting HS seniors over JUCO players, but there aren't any HS senior 7 footers to be had out there. Turpin may be the staff's best option for a C in 2011/2012 right now. If Kentucky and Louisville want him, seems like we should too, to me.
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Meyer
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crazybuckfan40;1697392; said:
I'm going to agree with your premise. I think that we shouldn't go after juco's that we know aren't talented enough to contribute. If the kid is good enough then I'm all for it, but just to waste a scholarship for a body is pointless and misguided.
I haven't seen Turpin so I don't know about him.
We need to simply start recruiting a few more big men. It sucks that every good big man we have bails (2/3 unready) but we need to start accounting for that cause it's hurting us.
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crazybuckfan40
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BigJim;1697462; said:
See post two up from yours...
And I understand the whole idea that Turpin could be that guy that swings to our favor...All I am really saying is these late guys have not worked out for us. If we are going for depth then use the guys we already have. If they really think he can play then ok. And if they are being pushed into a corner due to Sully and Thomas not having qualifying test scores then we are in more trouble than we want to think about. Who cares who they bring in :tongue2:
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OSU_Buckguy
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yes, the team will be in trouble if sullinger does not qualify, and, yes, i do care who matta brings in (due to the risk presented by thomas or sully not qualifying). i may be wrong here, but i don't see matta throwing up his arms and surrendering because one or both of his interior recruits won't qualify. my confidence in matta is supported by the fact that he is taking proactive measures.crazybuckfan40;1697603; said:
i absolutely agree that it would be ideal for matta to bank turner's scholarship for a 2011 player. we have seen the issues caused by forced hasty decisions. however, i doubt that matta thinks he's currently in an ideal situation. his star recruit--the player who may determine next season's ceiling--apparently still needs to prove to the ncaa that he's fit for college. we're days from may and there is only one more act test available for the 2010 players. if matta brings in a good (enough) post player, then i can't fault him for doing so.
an aside here...
i expect that sully will be suiting up for the scarlet and gray this year. i expect that he will take the june test and pass--that is, if he hasn't already taken the test and "achieved" at least a 17. however, if sully does not qualify and is shown not to have taken the 4/10 test (same day as the nike hoop summit game), then i will shake my head in disappointment... but not for the reason that most will.
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crazybuckfan40
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BuckTwenty;1697692; said:
I believe he was Obie's recruit, that was why I did not list him.
And Buckguy you know I was being sarcastic when saying who cares... :)
I also believe that Sully and Thomas will both be qualifyed...I was told a month or two back no reason to worry by a couple that would know...
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I am not getting into this fray but there is a proverb having to do with birds that might be very fitting here.
I guess I would be more comfortable if I knew of a 2011 post prospect that we have a really good shot at. I know all about Williams but those schools of North:! tend to bother me.
Also to the poster who called Tisdale lazy or a said that he looked like he has never lifted a weight should read up about metabolizing. I mean Tisdale would put down about 7000 calories per day but the body just not get the job done for him. Plus, I think he was a very good college player.
I guess I would be more comfortable if I knew of a 2011 post prospect that we have a really good shot at. I know all about Williams but those schools of North:! tend to bother me.
Also to the poster who called Tisdale lazy or a said that he looked like he has never lifted a weight should read up about metabolizing. I mean Tisdale would put down about 7000 calories per day but the body just not get the job done for him. Plus, I think he was a very good college player.
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