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#1 LSU vs #4 Oklahoma, 4 pm ET on Dec. 28 in Atlanta

Well if my team had a flag planted on the middle of their hometurf after being dominated by an opposing team, I'd probably be bitter too. :lol:
Yeah, that's it. It's not that you can't string consistent thoughts together from post to post. Or that your idiot ramblings boil down to nothing more than "durrrrrr Oklahoma". It's cuz some dumbass tried to plant a flag into turf.
 
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Well, that and not understanding that Ohio State sings the alma mater together with the band after every game, win or lose.
No no, it was clearly an offensive team celebration. Clearly Baker was not making an excuse for one of many of his classless taunts, and clearly he needed a lot of motivation traveling into a hostile environment against a team that flat-out humiliated his squad the previous year by... checking notes... Wildly out playing them in regular football.

OSU definitely did not end the season with a humiliating loss of their own against Clemson and proceed to honor that tradition of singing the alma mater. Film that Baker surely dissected leading into their early September clash a few months later.



It definitely would not have been smarter for baker to say that they won and he had fun, end of story. No, he was wise to bring up the hardship and disrespect that he avenged.
 
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And while we're arguing over which team has faced better defenses, I can still say that OU has faced much better offenses.

We played more top 30 scoring offenses than OU did.
We also played more top 50 scoring offenses than OU did.


Yet OU ranks higher in total defense than LSU and is just about dead-even in total offense. I can sit here and say that 2017-18 Oklahoma scored more points than anybody all season. Does that mean they were able to win a national title, much less a playoff game? Points only matter when you're able to hold the other team to less points than your team. "OH!!!! But LSU ranks higher than y'all in scoring D!!!!!" Yeah and against our one common opponent, OU allowed fewer points than Y'ALL did. We'll just have to find out which team wins the points battle on December 28th won't we?

Did you miss the part where I said half our fanbase wants to fire our DC?
You are puffing out your chest and bragging about ahead of a guy that legit was being discussed as on the hot seat.



Uh, ok. I still don't know why you brought KSU in to play. But ok.

because how many points team A scores against Team B is very rarely an accurate indicator of what Team C will do against Team B.




Well if you had any memory at all, then you'd recall that Bama's defense was the reason they failed to stop Clemson from scoring on their last drive of the 2016 national title game.

Jalen was 13 for 31 (42%) for 131 yards and an amazing 24.9 QBR in that game.
tell me again how awesome he was.

better yet, here are his career numbers in playoff starts

39 for 77 (50.6 %) ; 329 yards (82.25 per game average) ; 3 TDs (less than 1 per game)
131 yards his is career high passing in the playoffs.
Only once has he completed more than 50% of his passes in a playoff game.

oooooh, but he's 3-1 as a starter!!!!!!!!
oh yeah, he really fucking carried those Bama teams.

It wasn't just the defense that defined Bama, it was also the play and performance of their offense which included Jalen, Tua,

Tua had almost as many yards (318 vs 329), and more TDs (4 vs 3) in just the Oklahoma game in last years playoffs than Jalen does in his entire playoff career.

But go ahead and credit Jalen for that success if that's what helps you sleep at night.




Well Jalen is playing with OU's best defense they've taken thus far to the playoff. Although we don't have guys like Quinnen Williams and Minkah Fitzpatrick playing for us, I'd say this defense is good enough to help them win a playoff matchup.

do you seriously want to compare this OU defense to the ones he had carrying him at Bama in '16 & '17?

ok, this will be fun


Scoring Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 24.5 ppg
'17 Alabama - 11.9 ppg
'16 Alabama - 13.0 ppg

Rushing Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 132.08 ypg
'17 Alabama - 94.7 ypg
'16 Alabama - 63.9 ypg

Passing Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 198.5 ypg
'17 Alabama - 165.7 ypg
'16 Alabama - 197.9 ypg

Total Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 330.6 ypg
'17 Alabama - 260.4 ypg
'16 Alabama - 261.8 ypg

Sacks
'19 Oklahoma - 35
'17 Alabama - 40
'16 Alabama - 54

Turnovers Forced
'19 Oklahoma - 11 (7 int ; 4 Fumble Rec)
'17 Alabama - 24 (19 int ; 5 Fumble Rec)
'16 Alabama - 29 (16 int ; 13 Fumble Rec)



Too Long ; Didn't Read version of above:
Oklahoma is dead fucking last in every single statistical category. Most not even remotely close.
 
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Well if my team had a flag planted on the middle of their hometurf after being dominated by an opposing team, I'd probably be bitter too. :lol:

Wow

Is that really why you think everyone is on Nutch's side here?

Glenn Dorsey and the boys dominated OSU in the 07 title game far more than OU ever did. And Baker's childish antics are his own. They don't reflect on you at all.

The reason we're on his side is that he's making sense. Your arguments are so fraught with fallacies and contradictions you're either blinded by fandom to the point of meeting Dietrich Bonhoffer's definition of stupidity, or you're a troll. Either way, your only value here thus far is in seeing Nutch play with you like a cat with a special-needs mouse. When that wears thin, so will our patience. Up to now we've been nice.
 
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We played more top 30 scoring offenses than OU did.
We also played more top 50 scoring offenses than OU did.

Yes, I'm aware LSU played more teams in the top 50 in time of possession also. Mighty Georgia Southern was the highest ranked team you faced.


Did you miss the part where I said half our fanbase wants to fire our DC?
You are puffing out your chest and bragging about ahead of a guy that legit was being discussed as on the hot seat.


Don't worry. After you lose the Peach Bowl, maybe their wish will be granted.


because how many points team A scores against Team B is very rarely an accurate indicator of what Team C will do against Team B.


Yet Team C ranks higher in Team A in one category, while Team A ranks higher in another. Team C ranks higher in scoring defense and scoring offense, yet Team A has more playoff experience and a quarterback who has played with another Team A. Hey, I didn't realize two Team A quarterbacks once played for one team A! :lol:



Jalen was 13 for 31 (42%) for 131 yards and an amazing 24.9 QBR in that game.
tell me again how awesome he was.

better yet, here are his career numbers in playoff starts

39 for 77 (50.6 %) ; 329 yards (82.25 per game average) ; 3 TDs (less than 1 per game)
131 yards his is career high passing in the playoffs.
Only once has he completed more than 50% of his passes in a playoff game.

oooooh, but he's 3-1 as a starter!!!!!!!!
oh yeah, he really fucking carried those Bama teams.

And Jalen has taken his game to a whole different level under the tutelage of Lincoln Riley. Point is that while he never really had any stats that "wowed" anybody in his previous playoff experiences, he does have experience nonetheless and won't be intimidated in his return to Atlanta, where he's 5-0 all time.

Tua had almost as many yards (318 vs 329), and more TDs (4 vs 3) in just the Oklahoma game in last years playoffs than Jalen does in his entire playoff career.

But go ahead and credit Jalen for that success if that's what helps you sleep at night.


And go ahead and scoff at OU's defense based on their past if that's what helps you.



do you seriously want to compare this OU defense to the ones he had carrying him at Bama in '16 & '17?

ok, this will be fun


Scoring Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 24.5 ppg
'17 Alabama - 11.9 ppg
'16 Alabama - 13.0 ppg

Rushing Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 132.08 ypg
'17 Alabama - 94.7 ypg
'16 Alabama - 63.9 ypg

Passing Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 198.5 ypg
'17 Alabama - 165.7 ypg
'16 Alabama - 197.9 ypg

Total Defense
'19 Oklahoma - 330.6 ypg
'17 Alabama - 260.4 ypg
'16 Alabama - 261.8 ypg

Sacks
'19 Oklahoma - 35
'17 Alabama - 40
'16 Alabama - 54

Turnovers Forced
'19 Oklahoma - 11 (7 int ; 4 Fumble Rec)
'17 Alabama - 24 (19 int ; 5 Fumble Rec)
'16 Alabama - 29 (16 int ; 13 Fumble Rec)



Too Long ; Didn't Read version of above:
Oklahoma is dead fucking last in every single statistical category. Most not even remotely close.
Wait a minute, did I say this year's OU defense is as good as those Bama teams were? No, I said "this is the best OU defense has taken to the playoff." I also said the words "this defense is good enough to help them win a playoff matchup". Just because I said this defense is good enough to win a playoff game doesn't mean it draws any comparison statwise to a previous team that has, although OU is first in it's conference in total defense much like those said Bama teams.

yeah, that Drew Brees guy is fucking terrible.

Wait a minute, what does Drew Brees have to do with the Browns making the mistake of reaching for Baker with the first overall pick of the 2018 draft? Did they think he would be the next Drew Brees when they drafted him? Well they're in for a rather rude awakening if they did.
 
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Wow

Is that really why you think everyone is on Nutch's side here?

Glenn Dorsey and the boys dominated OSU in the 07 title game far more than OU ever did. And Baker's childish antics are his own. They don't reflect on you at all.

The reason we're on his side is that he's making sense. Your arguments are so fraught with fallacies and contradictions you're either blinded by fandom to the point of meeting Dietrich Bonhoffer's definition of stupidity, or you're a troll. Either way, your only value here thus far is in seeing Nutch play with you like a cat with a special-needs mouse. When that wears thin, so will our patience. Up to now we've been nice.
Why do you assume I think that? And to be honest, some of his arguments have been littered with fallacies and contradictions also if that's the way you see things.

And btw, that quote was about @BuckeyeNation27, not the Nutch guy.
 
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Why do you assume I think that? And to be honest, some of his arguments have been littered with fallacies and contradictions also if that's the way you see things.

I assume you think that because you called us bitter. Why would you do that, if not to explain why we're all piling on the oklahoma guy, as opposed to the lsu guy. Pardon me for spelling out the fucking obvious, but apparently you need it.

And his arguments are based on logic and reason, something you apparently either know nothing about, or cannot comprehend when your emotions are involved.

We find him entertaining, and we think there's a very good chance that his team will win a national championship this year.

We can't say either for you.

None of that has anything to do with Baker Mayfield.
 
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not quoting all your bullshit.

i posted SCORING offense.
putting points on the board.
points is what determines who wins and who loses.

not a single other ridiculous metric you make up matters more toward the outcomes of games than points scored and points allowed.

we faced better offenses than y’all did.
we faced better defenses than y’all did.
we have lost fewer games than y’all did.


has Jalen stepped up his game, or did the level of defense he faced on a weekly basis go to complete shit?



i brought up Drew Brees because you said drafting a 5’ 11” QB with a slow 40 time was a bad idea.

Drew is 5’11”. His 40 time was north of 4.8.

he literally fits the exact (and only) description you gave of a QB that should not have been drafted.

I would say he turned out at least OK.
 
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not quoting all your bullshit.

i posted SCORING offense.
putting points on the board.
points is what determines who wins and who loses.

not a single other ridiculous metric you make up matters more toward the outcomes of games than points scored and points allowed.

we faced better offenses than y’all did.
we faced better defenses than y’all did.
we have lost fewer games than y’all did.


has Jalen stepped up his game, or did the level of defense he faced on a weekly basis go to complete shit?



i brought up Drew Brees because you said drafting a 5’ 11” QB with a slow 40 time was a bad idea.

Drew is 5’11”. His 40 time was north of 4.8.

he literally fits the exact (and only) description you gave of a QB that should not have been drafted.

I would say he turned out at least OK.
I don't know why you brought Drew Brees into the discussion, but the conversation we were having about Baker and the Browns offensive woes had nothing to do with him. Read the posts before you write shit, dumbass.
 
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