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'07 IL QB Bo Flowers (Illinois Verbal)

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OSUBucks22;663079; said:
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He will not be on scholarship wherever he goes, as he will pay his way with baseball money.
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Good to see Flowers was smart with his money. A 5th round pick 5 years ago didn't get a huge bonus (though he may have gotten higher than slot) and I know he wasn't making much of a salary since he didn't break a 40 man roster.

The Cubbies got him in the Farnsworth deal.

Profile from last year lists him at 6-2, 225.
 
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Are you sure? I thought there was a rule that kept things like this, putting people on tennis, academic, wrestling scholarships etc as a way around the 85 man limit. IIRC Weinke was at FSU on baseball money but counted against their limit.
 
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DaytonBuck;663541; said:
Are you sure? I thought there was a rule that kept things like this, putting people on tennis, academic, wrestling scholarships etc as a way around the 85 man limit. IIRC Weinke was at FSU on baseball money but counted against their limit.
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That rule says that if on schollie for one sport and if you play another then the sport with more schollies takes the hit.

I believe it was Miami who was putting kids on track ships and then having them play football...

Since Bo would only being playing football, it would be the same as what guys that walk-on do. They pay their way to go to school, but are able to make the team as a walk-on therefore not counting against the schollie limt.

This is the reason why this is a good situation for us, b/c he is a kid that could be worthy of a schollie, but we don't have to use one to get him, b/c he is going to pay his own way.

In a way he will be a preferred walk-on...
 
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This seems like a great situation for this young man. As far as going on Scholarship, I think it would not be in his best interest. I'm assuming that full college tuition was part of his baseball contract. If he would go on scholarship, and then things didn't work out then he would have to sit out a year. In his situation he could switch schools without having to sit out a year.
 
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DaytonBuck;663569; said:
What's stopping a program from using academic or institutional schollies as a way around the 85 man limit?
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That is a good question and believed it was posed with the Antonio Smith situation. He was on an academic schollie until he received his football schollie. I don't think it was a problem unless the 85 number comes into question, which we have not reached the 85 number so it is no big deal, but I do believe that if he were play and was on the academic schollie he had to be moved to football schollie...
 
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DaytonBuck, the rule is about scholarships. Yes, anyone on any kind of full scholarship must take up a spot on the 85-man limit for football scholarships.

This is not a scholarship situation. He will receive no scholarships. He is paying his own tuition. It is clearly a no-lose situation.

Of course, this brings up other interesting situations which we have not seen addressed. For instance, Joakim Noah at Florida is a scholarship player, but his family is quite wealthy, and does not need the scholarship funds to put him through college. Could he free up a scholly by paying his own way through college, thus allowing his coach to use the scholarship on someone of more meager means? That is the question. Plenty of kids come from wealthy backgrounds to play college sports. Why wouldn't more kids from wealthy families who are top-notch players walk on to the school that they choose (and that wants them, as well), freeing up the staff to offer some other guys?
 
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I was under the impression that if a player was eligible for a scholarship and they played a certain number of plays or minutes they had to be granted one or count against the limit or something. Nebraska used to recruit extra players every year though because they had a law in that state that one kid in every county would be garaunteed an athletics scholarship to any instate school they chose or something like that... let them bank those ships and only use regular schollies for oos kids and more populated counties
 
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BuckeyeSoldier;663591; said:
I was under the impression that if a player was eligible for a scholarship and they played a certain number of plays or minutes they had to be granted one or count against the limit or something. Nebraska used to recruit extra players every year though because they had a law in that state that one kid in every county would be garaunteed an athletics scholarship to any instate school they chose or something like that... let them bank those ships and only use regular schollies for oos kids and more populated counties
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that would have meant every past OSU walk-on would have counted as a schollie and none of them did until they went on schollie.

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DaytonBuck;663569; said:
What's stopping a program from using academic or institutional schollies as a way around the 85 man limit?
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Nothing. That's how Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale, who do not give out "athletic scholarships" field their teams. I knew someone on an academic scholarship at Yale despite maintaining a C+ average (that's low in the grade inflation Ivy schools). Oh, and he was 7 feet tall and was asked to play on their basketball team.
 
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