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'05 FL RB Conredge Collins (Pitt signee)

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HH said something on teh BN board to the extent of FSU and UF becoming soft on Collins and I think they have taken themselves out of the running for him. Did Collins mention anythign about NCSt in teh BN article?
 
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BGriffBuckeye said:
HH said something on teh BN board to the extent of FSU and UF becoming soft on Collins and I think they have taken themselves out of the running for him. Did Collins mention anythign about NCSt in teh BN article?
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NCState was mentioned but only in passing, it was more of - CC visited NCState on XX/XX date. I thought I read somewhere that he wasnt thrilled with his visit there but I could be wrong. The other thing to consider is that they have lost alot of their staff this offseason - Holiday[RC], OC and I think their DC. Thats a lot of turnover for that program and I would think ?marks for recruits.

Also, someone mentioned on the BN board that they are hearing Miami might be back in the picture now and telling Collins he can play TB since Gore left for the NFL. I am not sure he fits their true offense but he might take the chance to stay in FL. I thought Miami took 2-3 guys last year plus Antone Smith is pretty a Miami lock this year? I dont see it but its a possibility. Obvisouly, we are waiting for the true FL insider, ahem *HH * ahem to chime in one this one.... :wink2:
 
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Gosh this day gets better and better, Collins and Wells both seem to have cocked and are ready to pull the trigger and join the S&G. Unbelievable. We've all been tentatively expecting Wells for a while, but to be able to spare Wells on short yardage plays with Collins would be fantastic. Could you imagine a month ago thinking that Gwaltney might not even be our best FB option?

And worst case scenario if Gwaltney was dying to come here, he could quickly pull the trigger and jump on board here before Collins gets a chance. I really don't see how we won't land Collins or Gwaltney at this point. Sure its possible, but things are looking quite good.
 
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Kurelic said a few moments ago that Collins informed him today that Miami is definately back in the picture and BK also went as far as to say that Miami is the leader. Take it for what its worth.

IN the last 3 days he's gone from not favoring anyone (NCSt site), to favoring OSU (bucknuts), to favoring Miami (Kurelic). Kind of interesting given that he didnt visit any of those schools during the last 3 days.
 
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The thing is though, the Gore situation could affect Antone Smith's decision as well. Bringing in Smith (this year), Andrew Johnson and Charlie Jones (both last year) to go along with Tyrone Moss (expected starter next year).. I think he will realize our depth chart looks much more favorable for next year and he could possibly turn into a FB there eventually as well. Rivals now, for some reason, has Miami of high interest all of a sudden for him, but Smith's decision (whenever it comes) could sway him back our way). Collins comes up to Columbus next week and it should be a make or break visit. Come on Jimmy T, reel him in, we desperately need Collins in the S&G.
 
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Bgriff nice post

That kid will be moved to FB at Miami. The only reason they have reopened his recruitment is because Gore is gone. Miami is stacked at RB and OSU needs a power back. IMO we have 50% or better chance to land the kid. Get him on campus and see what happens...about three weeks
 
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I really think chances are VERY good he lands here at tOSU. Miami seems to be the only threat, and for aforementioned reasons he seems like he'll struggle to see the field at those schools.

Not only are we a school that stays dedicated to the run, but we also are a ball-control/defensive team that will give him a lot more carries where other teams would be more content to try and put up a few more quick scores thru the air.

I also think he has to like the fact that his main competition are a couple of average (talent and size) backs (Pittman and Haw) and a prep phenom speed back. He really doesn't have any competition for who would take the carries with 1st down and goal from the 2.
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
I really think chances are VERY good he lands here at tOSU. Miami seems to be the only threat, and for aforementioned reasons he seems like he'll struggle to see the field at those schools.

Not only are we a school that stays dedicated to the run, but we also are a ball-control/defensive team that will give him a lot more carries where other teams would be more content to try and put up a few more quick scores thru the air.

I also think he has to like the fact that his main competition are a couple of average (talent and size) backs (Pittman and Haw) and a prep phenom speed back. He really doesn't have any competition for who would take the carries with 1st down and goal from the 2.
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I wouldn't downplay Haw and Pittman like that. Although I think Collins and Wells would pass them up on the depth chart relatively quickly, Haw and Pittman aren't chopped liver.
 
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scooter1369 said:
I wouldn't downplay Haw and Pittman like that. Although I think Collins and Wells would pass them up on the depth chart relatively quickly, Haw and Pittman aren't chopped liver.
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Agreed. I'm just trying to look at it from his perspective. It would take tons of film for him to realize Pittman's much of a threat at all, and Haw obviously hasn't played at all being a redshirt.

I think Pittman/Haw will push Wells and may take away some carries from Collins. I just think if I were him I would like my chances of playing opposite a speed back who would be my only big-time threat to PT, and they wouldn't be used in similar plays very often.

Hopefully that clarifies my stance, cuz I definitely am excited to see Pittman get more opportunities next year, and also to see if Haw is as good as many say he is.

On a separate note: does anyone know how much it usually costs to go to the spring game?
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
Agreed. I'm just trying to look at it from his perspective. It would take tons of film for him to realize Pittman's much of a threat at all, and Haw obviously hasn't played at all being a redshirt.

I think Pittman/Haw will push Wells and may take away some carries from Collins. I just think if I were him I would like my chances of playing opposite a speed back who would be my only big-time threat to PT, and they wouldn't be used in similar plays very often.

Hopefully that clarifies my stance, cuz I definitely am excited to see Pittman get more opportunities next year, and also to see if Haw is as good as many say he is.

On a separate note: does anyone know how much it usually costs to go to the spring game?
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$5.00
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
I also think he has to like the fact that his main competition are a couple of average (talent and size) backs (Pittman and Haw) and a prep phenom speed back. He really doesn't have any competition for who would take the carries with 1st down and goal from the 2.
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Uh, why don't we wait until we see how Haw and Pittman do until you annoint any of our 2005 recruits as starting RBs for next season. Pittman was quite good when the OL was performing at least decently. Haw didn't play because JT wanted to redshirt one of the two and since we had Joe and Ross as power backs, Haw got the redshirt. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Haw has...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Uh, why don't we wait until we see how Haw and Pittman do until you annoint any of our 2005 recruits as starting RBs for next season. Pittman was quite good when the OL was performing at least decently. Haw didn't play because JT wanted to redshirt one of the two and since we had Joe and Ross as power backs, Haw got the redshirt. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Haw has...
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I guess I was just trying to look at how I would feel if I were Collins. In terms of short yardage, I would think Collins has an edge here. The difference will be how well Pittman/Haw do next fall. If they can push Wells and not let him surpass them on the ladder, then both of them have a shot at being the back we go to regularly (on 1st, 3rd and short, 3rd and med, etc.) regardless of field position.

I agree with getting upset with me. Not that I've ever been a real bright poster, but I've sure done a good job opening my mouth via my fingers and had to do a lot of backpedaling later.

Anyway, I'm excited to see Wells and perhaps Collins push Pittman and Haw for carries. I wish we had a few more games before Texas to work on our rushing attack, but our defense should carry us through that one (and the lethal WR corps).
 
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I'm really excited by the prospect of having Collins and Wells in the backfield, but I too am not willing to count out Pittman and Haw. This talk sounds alot like the same stuff we hear every year about guys coming in and taking the job from day one.
 
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People tend to forget about Haw because he didn't play this year. Keep in mind that he's got good size (6'1" and 210, and probably has bulked up a few pounds in the weight room), and ran a proton-accelerator 4.21 40 at the Ohio State summer camp prior to his senior season in high school.
 
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My concern at the RB position isn't quality, size or speed. I think we have a couple good backs already in Buckeye uniforms. My main concern is depth. We need a couple warm bodies at the RB position - of course, it won't hurt if they have lightning speed and a bruising style!
 
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