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Every fanbase has a vocal, lunatic fringe. Recruiting is just a creepy business that gives them a disproportionate voice. Only thing to do about that on forums is have active moderators who are quick to muzzle such things, like they do here.

Scuttlebutt is that Long and Branch are staying, and Crable is leaving (financial problems). I'll believe it on Branch when I see it, but then Watson stayed an extra year when he clearly should've left early, so who knows. I expect our DL will be strong as we had excellent depth this year...

Just for the record, I think those conspiracy theories are retarded, as do most Michigan fans. Remember, the kinds of folk who follow recruiting (especially those for pay for info) tend to be the lunatic fringe of a fanbase. Present company excluded, of course. :wink2:

Again, that was not the intent, although I understand why you saw it that way. That was not silly at all - I was illustrating how unlikely it is that Notre Dame makes the national championship game. Please point me to where I said that I expected that to happen. So you agree with me. :D...

*sigh* A throwaway comment at the end is all you seize on? While I do see now how that can be perceived as whining, it was not intended as such. Please focus on the remainder of my post; I'd rather discuss the probabilities of various championship matchups, not pointless flaming.

I don't see Notre Dame jumping Michigan, period. Despite the media's love affair with them, our blowout was sufficiently high profile to keep us above them in the polls, and they can't jump us in the computers. Their only shot is if OSU loses in a blowout. As for Rutgers, they've got almost...

I don't think English will go to MSU, but that's more because he knows he'll be on the short list for Michigan's job when Carr retires. If he doesn't think he'll have a real shot at Michigan's job, well, a major head coaching job is a major head coaching job, and he'd make 7 figures or near to...

Well, Mariucci's agent said that he doesn't want the job. Gene Chizik's name is appearing, too. I think Davis, Chizik, Tenuta, or English would all be good hires for state. Here's a list from the RCMB: * Charlie Baggett - Miami Dolphins, assistant head coach * Gene Chizik -...

I'll be surprised if it's not Mariucci. Other names not mentioned yet I've seen thrown around are Butch Davis, Brian Kelly (CMU head coach), and Jon Tenuta (GT DC). I also read an amusing rumor concerning Nick Saban, but those are just dreams of Spartans remembering 2000.

The computers see our schedule as stronger. To the computers, a weak Big 12 makes our Notre Dame win more impressive than Texas, and Wisconsin gives us a boost, too. Though, the only place it really matters is when considering a possible championship game rematch. Some of the formulae are...

The sane fans were disappointed that we lost Saine, Washington, and Herron. Blame Scout, especially scumbag Josh Turel, for promoting any sour grapes.

Scout (GBW) 10/27 Clemons has committed to Michigan.

The computers don't like Texas at all, and I don't blame them - the Big 12 is weak this year. I also don't see a one loss Texas jumping a one loss OSU, and against a one loss Michigan, the voters would have to choose between rematches anyway. You're right about Cal; I was assuming they lose to...

I'm interested in the possibility of a UM-OSU rematch in the National Championship Game. If WVA, Louisville, and USC all fall and The Game is a close one, which 1 loss team is going to jump the loser? I know pollsters hate late season losses, but I'd have to think a 1 loss Michigan would...

This is a quote from spartantailgate.com in the topic "Biggest choke in MSUFB history" and really sums up the MSU program under JLS:

Nice retort. It's somewhat amusing that, even drunk, I'm significantly more lucid that a Domer. You just be proud that Notre Dame would be a middle of the road Big 10 team. It's just too bad that ND doesn't play Iowa so they could duplicate what Michigan did. Oh yeah, Brady Quinn for Heisman!

That's cute. I'm a student of MSU and an alumnus of U of M, so blow me. I hope you enjoyed the asskicking Michigan gave Quinn last week. BRADY QUINN FOR HEISMAN Congradulations, you pulled off a miracle victory against a tier 2 Big 10 team. Notre Dame: Returning to glory since 1980.

Bhahahhah. Thank god that: I'm drunk. I'm not primarily a MSU fan. That debacle was CLASSIC MSU.

Nice recovery. :D This might be the one Wolverine highlight reel that you guys will enjoy: Brady Quinn for Heisman (Youtube)

It'd be great, but we've still each got to beat MSU and Iowa. Stanton just sliced through the Pitt defense after the 1st quarter, and a team with a good offense just needs a little luck to beat anyone. Penn State doesn't look great, but they're going to be out for blood against Michigan, and...