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WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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JXC;1842012; said:
Not a leader, huh? Are you on the sidelines and in the huddle? I mean, if you are, then I appologize. Do you think he's not a leader because Herbie tells you this is so? Is he not a leader because of these suspensions over something done more than a year ago?

There are many different ways to lead. The way Terrelle plays is leadership in itself. He is the type of player that makes the OL want to hold a block for a second longer. He is the type of player that makes the WRs come back to the ball and never give up on a play. He is the type of player that spreads the ball around to everyone, so everybody steps up and stays focused. He is the type of player that makes the RBs want to run harder, because if the QB is running over people, running by people, and throwing stiffarms, then I better be doing it to.

His will to win is evident. That will to win spreads. Yes...Ohio State football is about the team, and not one player. But this particular player is the fuel for what is the offensive engine.

What kind of leader would TP be if he just "played to his strength" as you said...and ran the ball all the time instead of checking down and going through his progressions. Maybe HE would have better stats if he was more selfish. But I don't think it would win us more games.
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I guess my idea of a leader is someone who doesnt put their TEAM at a disadvantage for some tattoo's. Or someone who has a talent at running the football which will open the passing lanes but instead chooses to make it publicy known he's "a passing QB" not a runner. And another example of a leader would be someone who does whatever it takes to win games not fumble with the game on the line against PSU. Not go 3 and out 3 straight drives while wisconsin runs 21 points up. Like i said, TP has shown improvements over the years and I applaud him but he's far from a leader just because he wants to win. He does have an amazing stiff arm but how many times have you seen him not get a first down because he was avoiding contact? And going off what you said, No im not in the huddle with him. But im sure your not either so I guess your opinnion is just as dead as mine right?
 
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Pryor has his flaws, but really?
And another example of a leader would be someone who does whatever it takes to win games not fumble with the game on the line against PSU. Not go 3 and out 3 straight drives while wisconsin runs 21 points up.
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Ridiculous arguments. Calling out his leadership for a fumble or going 3 n out says more about you than him

Krenzel was a great leader and went 3 and out like it was going out of style.
 
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Buckeye2223;1842071; said:
I guess my idea of a leader is someone who doesnt put their TEAM at a disadvantage for some tattoo's. Or someone who has a talent at running the football which will open the passing lanes but instead chooses to make it publicy known he's "a passing QB" not a runner. And another example of a leader would be someone who does whatever it takes to win games not fumble with the game on the line against PSU. Not go 3 and out 3 straight drives while wisconsin runs 21 points up. Like i said, TP has shown improvements over the years and I applaud him but he's far from a leader just because he wants to win. He does have an amazing stiff arm but how many times have you seen him not get a first down because he was avoiding contact? And going off what you said, No im not in the huddle with him. But im sure your not either so I guess your opinnion is just as dead as mine right?
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Jesus I don't even know where to start...

"make it publicly known"? WTF does that mean? Does that mean the defensive coaches at Indiana and Iowa are sitting in a meeting and say "Well, let's see how we can possibly gameplan for Pryor's ability to run out of the pocket...oh shit! That's right, he done declared he was a passing QB on Twitter! Fuck that shit, we're dropping 8 all game!" Er, probably not. Michigan had a running QB...wanna trade their record for ours?

It was 4th and double digits with the game on the line against Iowa and he ran for it...and there wasn't really even a "running lane". I'll take that anytime. All. Fucking. Day. Oh, and he basically single-handedly beat Miami in the second half by running all over the field, and then there was the run against Wisconsin 2 years ago in Madison...but I digress. I guess since he ran out of bounds once against Toledo he is frightened of DBs. My bad. All that, then you bust on him for fumbling after a wicked hit against Penn State...as a FRESHMAN? So which is it?

Dude, I'm no Pryor apologist, and the tat thing pisses me off quite frankly like it does a lot of people, but the next time you get a credit card application in the mail, fill it out, and then charge a clue...
 
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NJ-Buckeye;1841939; said:
If I have any doubts about TPs loyalty... this is a lifetime declaration

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Sometimes man, a tattoo is a stamp of what you've done and where you've been, not always meaning something you are life-long dedicated to. People get tats on a whim, or when they are "in the moment"
 
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Buckeye2223;1842071; said:
I guess my idea of a leader is someone who doesnt put their TEAM at a disadvantage for some tattoo's. Or someone who has a talent at running the football which will open the passing lanes but instead chooses to make it publicy known he's "a passing QB" not a runner. And another example of a leader would be someone who does whatever it takes to win games not fumble with the game on the line against PSU. Not go 3 and out 3 straight drives while wisconsin runs 21 points up. Like i said, TP has shown improvements over the years and I applaud him but he's far from a leader just because he wants to win. He does have an amazing stiff arm but how many times have you seen him not get a first down because he was avoiding contact? And going off what you said, No im not in the huddle with him. But im sure your not either so I guess your opinnion is just as dead as mine right?
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Actually, Ohio State's first 3 drives each started with a first down, a total of 7 first downs on the first 3 possessions, with the third one ending in a FG.

And Pryor was still dealing with an injured leg in that game. And he's 30-4 as a starting QB, but I guess that's not good enough for you.

Perhaps this board isn't the place for you. But you can try again in 14 days.
 
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BB73;1842083; said:
Actually, Ohio State's first 3 drives each started with a first down, a total of 7 first downs on the first 3 possessions, with the third one ending in a FG.

And Pryor was still dealing with an injured leg in that game. And he's 30-4 as a starting QBm but I guess that's not good enough for you.

Perhaps this board isn't the place for you. But you can try again in 14 days.
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DAMMIT I wanted to hear his brilliant response to my post! Fucking elitist pr_ck mods!11!11!!1!!! :pissed:
 
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Bucklion;1842087; said:
DAMMIT I wanted to hear his brilliant response to my post! Fucking elitist pr_ck mods!11!11!!1!!! :pissed:
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Is it OK with you if I ban Jwins for his Krenzel-bashing? Or are you looking to hear something more from him? :sneaky:
 
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[quote='BusNative;184209;2]Dinged before the ban! :banger:

I'm rubyin' like crazy today :biggrin:[/quote]

I'm off to check the guidelines on ding-gloating. You may want to ding yourself while you still can.
 
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WolverineMike;1842060; said:
did anyone think Pryor as a true frosh was better than a QB who had just led his team to a national championship game?
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When TP was inserted as a freshman our offense didn't exactly light it up during that stretch of the season. Sure there we're moments. But the only reason we didnt bog down completely was because of Pryor's legs and having an NFL quality 'Beanie' in the backfield.

Todd was removed mainly due to the Oline's lack of ability to keep him upright (some regression yes) but if they could have kept his jersey clean I'm sure Boeckman would have remained the starter even after the USC debacle.

Keep in mind, it was because of Todd and some last minute heroics that gave us the lead against Texas in the Fiesta that year. Was he perfect? No. But he made his contribution, some key plays and above all else stayed a team player while maintaining a great attitude for not only Terrelle, but as an example to the entire team. For that Todd will always be a great Buckeye.
 
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