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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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As long as he keeps running I dont think adding about 10 pounds(no more than that) should effect him to much. Does anybody know how much he weighs now? I was thinking something like 175. So IMO a good weight for him to be at next year would be about 185 as long as he doesnt lose speed.
 
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VG when he wasn't motioning he was in the slot as well. He will get plenty of tips when he is split out as to how to swim a kid or not get jammed. Of course increased strength and muscle will help big time.



I am sure the coaches and trainers are cognizant of him losing his speed and I am sure that they have a program to accomplish a number of things.
 
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Dante Hall is 5'8 187. I'm SURE he wasn't 187 when he got to college. Clearly he put on some weight and stayed pretty stinkin fast.

Our coaching staff responsible for this sort of thing are about the best in the nation. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

And Ginn is too thin to be taking a season's worth of KR's and lining up on the line at WR. He needs more size to play more in college and definitely for the next level.
 
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Sorry LRABuck, I didn't mean to come out that way. You're question is very valid, especially when you toss in the x-factor of Ginn getting reps at CB!
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Oh, I didn't take it negatively :) The topic was something I'd been wondering about for awhile, and I was curious as to what you folks thought.

After the reassurance from several of you, though, I'm not so worried. It's like when you buy that awesome new car and you're overly-careful with it, you don't want to push it too hard, for fear of damaging it somehow and losing some of that wicked speed. (Or at least that's how I was with my car... don't know if EVERYONE's that paranoid!)

We'll have (hopefully) three more years with Ginn...it's exciting to think about.
 
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Ginn game planning from teams!

Watched the Alamo Bowl again last night. Was impressed at the game planning of Okie State to take Ginn out of the game, even though it was a blowout! Ginn had some yards on receptions and returns, but no return scores. And his one TD was at the QB position! He did have an obvious effect on field position! But, again , few big plays and no return TDs! This is how teams will try to handle Ginn. So his ability as a receiver will be even more important. I would look for less in the return game from him and more as a WR!
 
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Ok you started with this...

Taosman said:
Was impressed at the game planning of Okie State to take Ginn out of the game,
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But then rambled on with this...

Taosman said:
even though it was a blowout! Ginn had some yards on receptions and returns, but no return scores. And his one TD was at the QB position! He did have an obvious effect on field position! But, again , few big plays and no return TDs! This is how teams will try to handle Ginn.
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Ginn was the MVP of the game... caught six passes for 78 yards and rushed for another 51 yards and a touchdown. The Pokes shanked a few punts and kicked away from Teddy, but if you want to consider this approach a solid gameplan to contain him given the final stats, I really hope other teams choose to follow. Your statement about changing field position is huge itself...often that is just as good as a solid return.

No offense but I don't see where you are going here...Ginn will get his return yards and his big plays. Teams cannot afford to kick away from him all year.
 
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Taosman said:
Watched the Alamo Bowl again last night. Was impressed at the game planning of Okie State to take Ginn out of the game, even though it was a blowout! Ginn had some yards on receptions and returns, but no return scores. And his one TD was at the QB position! He did have an obvious effect on field position! But, again , few big plays and no return TDs! This is how teams will try to handle Ginn. So his ability as a receiver will be even more important. I would look for less in the return game from him and more as a WR!
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Other than punting out of bounds, what basic strategies did you see Okie State use to shut Ginn down? Obviously TGII doesn't return every punt for a TD. Since Okie only gave him a couple to field, I think it is hard to suggest that they made him a non-factor in the punting game. If they found a game plan that could stop him, they wouldn't have been kicking to the stands.

51 yards rushing and 78 yards receiving is pretty impressive considering he played QB for part of the game. If another team ever finds a TRUE gameplan to stop Ginn, rest assured it will eat up enough defenders to open up a WORLD of opportunities for everyone else.
 
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Taosman said:
Watched the Alamo Bowl again last night. Was impressed at the game planning of Okie State to take Ginn out of the game, even though it was a blowout! Ginn had some yards on receptions and returns, but no return scores. And his one TD was at the QB position! He did have an obvious effect on field position! But, again , few big plays and no return TDs! This is how teams will try to handle Ginn. So his ability as a receiver will be even more important. I would look for less in the return game from him and more as a WR!
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Ok we have awards we hand out for good post, but after reading this one I think we should have a Dunce Cap that a post like this would receive and the poster would have to endure it until the next "dunce" comes along.
 
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I think the "game planning" he is hinting at might benefit the team a lot next season because opponents will need to be less aggressive on defense.
I expect to see:
* a lot of zone looks from the front 7 with LBs and DEs dropping into the alleys to stop the quick passes
* Less attacking upfield to defend against the reverse
* a spy devoted to TG when he is in the "Shotginn" position

A TG reverse pass to the other TG or SH would be 6 points because they won't be caught from behind and the DB can't afford not to come up in run support.

OSU is widely regarded as a Top-5 team so teams will be scheming for them all summer ... Northwestern's offense was unstoppable for 1 season, then the defenses caught on.

If the team breaks camp with 1/2 of the weapons that they are supposed to have, stopping Teddy will be the least of the opposing DC's concerns.

Now I have to go to the XBox and test the theory .....
 
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