WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

[Taosman]

Is any coach nuts enough to punt to this guy?
I sure hope so! :tongue2:

And I'm pretty sure that OU's Antonio Perkins did get 3 in one game. WTF! How stupid is that coach?

 

[coolcobra]

He's kind of right, OSU does have a horrible history against SEC teams (isn't the record like 0-10?), and the teams this year are looking strong, I would pick LSU, UF, and AU to beat OSU if they played.

horrible history notwithstanding, lsu would be j. russell vs. t.smith = no contest.

au would be brandon cox vs. j.smith=no contest.

uf would be toughest of the 3 w/teabow so hard to stop and our run d shaky anyhow. leak would have to play his best, though, and it still might not be enough.

i really think tennessee would be toughest as ainge has come on and they have some really good weapons. however, losing harrell hurts their d

 

[rocketman]

horrible history notwithstanding, lsu would be j. russell vs. t.smith = no contest.

au would be brandon cox vs. j.smith=no contest.

uf would be toughest of the 3 w/teabow so hard to stop and our run d shaky anyhow. leak would have to play his best, though, and it still might not be enough.

i really think tennessee would be toughest as ainge has come on and they have some really good weapons. however, losing harrell hurts their d

But if USC goes undefeated then we won't have to worry about any SEC teams (which I think were pretty overrated after this past weekend) as none of them are undefeated. Anyway, back to Mr. Ginn...

EDIT: Just noticed that was your first post. Welcome to BP!

 

[jwinslow]

OSU Picture Archive

Teddy's record breaking PR TD & a great YAC play (starting with a broken tackle)

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

DDN

Buckeyes' Ginn earns Big Ten honor after setting record

The junior is named special teams player of the week after sixth career punt-return TD.


By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Tuesday, October 17, 2006



COLUMBUS ? Ohio State's Ted Ginn Jr. set a Big Ten record with his sixth career punt-return touchdown Saturday, but he doesn't expect to keep the mark for long.
"Records are made to be broken," he said. "Someone will come along and break it. That's why you just have to have fun while you're here."
The junior from Cleveland had plenty of fun at Michigan State's expense, hauling in a punt and running it back 60 yards for a TD that broke the conference record he shared with Iowa's Tim Dwight (1994-97).
Ginn, who was named Big Ten special teams player of the week Monday, still has seven more games this season to challenge the national mark of eight held by Texas Tech's Wes Walker (2000-03) and Oklahoma's Antonio Perkins (2001-04).
Tressel, players to speak
OSU players and coach Jim Tressel will share how their Christian faith has impacted their lives at a free event for the public at 7 p.m. Oct. 30 at St. John Arena.
Roy Hall, David Patterson, Joel Penton, Stan White Jr. and former Buckeye Craig Krenzel will be among the players speaking at the Main Event, a program sponsored by OSU football Athletes in Action and Central Ohio Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The evening will conclude with a message from Tressel.
"We hope this is something that will touch lives," Tressel said.
James Laurinaitis, Vernon Gholston, Marcus Freeman and other Buckeyes will be in attendance, as will members of the marching band and cheerleading squad.
Doors will open at 6 p.m., and the first 1,000 people to arrive will receive a photo signed by one of the players.
Buckeye bits
? Quarterback Troy Smith has a 20-2 record as a starter, including a 9-1 mark against ranked foes.
? OSU has won 14 consecutive games and has scored at least 24 points in each outing.
? The window-dressing TD that the Spartans scored with 1:17 left during their 38-7 defeat kept the Buckeyes from leading the nation in scoring defense again this week.
Although their average dropped to 9.0, they trail Rutgers (8.3) and LSU (8.6).

 

[osugrad21]

CPD

[FONT=arial,sans-serif]GINN AS A THROWER: Receiver Ted Ginn Jr. is still lamenting his incomplete pass Saturday, when tight end Rory Nicol couldn?t handle his throw off a reverse.

?I think it was a great ball,? Ginn said today. ?For the position I was in, I think I threw a pretty good ball, for scrambling around and throwing the rock. The wind just took it a little bit, and I think our tight end just took his eye off it. If he would have caught it, it was possibly a touchdown.?[/FONT]

 

[Buckskin86]

Ginn Jr.'s career on the fast track
Saturday, October 21, 2006
Bill Livingston
Plain Dealer Columnist
Columbus

- How fast is Ted Ginn Jr?

"He startles me with his speed every time," said Ohio State center Doug Datish. "You look at him running by himself and you can't believe he's running that fast. It's when he's running with others that you notice it."

Ginn runs with an economy of motion. He does not strain. The speed does not seem to exact a toll on him, as it did on Butch Reynolds, OSU's speed and strength coach in football, who won a silver medal in the 400 meters in the 1988 Olympics.

Reynolds ran with the power of a big man whose force of will would carry him, his face twisted in torment from what he was asking of himself, past others unwilling to pay his price.

Harrison Dillard, an Olympic gold medalist in the 100 meters and 110 hurdles, said Ginn runs the way Jesse Owens did, "like he was sitting in a chair."

"I try to stay relaxed. They say, 'He isn't even running.' You see a lot of guys straining, trying to push it," said Ginn, a standout at Glenville High in Cleveland and a long-shot Heisman Trophy candidate.

Straining runners are in danger of "tying up," the term for the destabilization of their form when they reach a point at which their muscles can no longer perform with the same intensity.

Ginn's stride mechanics leave little to be desired. One footstep follows in the path of another, like a man walking the line to the Downtown Athletic Club.

Reynolds does work with him on his hands. They should be like a karate kid's lethal weapons, cutting through the air like a shark's fin through water.

Reynolds was quoted by television announcers during the Michigan State game as saying Ginn can sustain speeds of 27 mph. That is unlikely. Michael Johnson and Donovan Bailey share the record for top-end speed at 27 mph. That was on a track surface, in singlets, not on grass, in pads.

"I was timed in the 100 [meters] my last year in high school. I ran a 10.5 [seconds]," Ginn said.

No one ever suggested Ginn was the second coming of "Bullet" Bob Hayes, who went through the NFL like a ballistics test after winning the 100 at the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.

Ginn has been out of track since high school. When asked what he would run in the 100 now if he had stayed in the sport, he said, "About 10.3."

A 100 time of 10.3 equates to 21.7 mph. The world record is 9.77. But 10.3 would have made the semifinals of the men's 100 at the 2004 U.S. Olympic Trials, so Ginn is at least in the conversation when it comes to world-class speed.

A high school quarterback, he is still learning at wide receiver.

As a kick returner, he owns the Big Ten touchdown record with six punt returns. He also has a kickoff return for a TD.

"He can feel the tackler," Datish said. "It's a sixth sense. He sees it before it happens."

"I told Gonzo [Anthony Gonzalez] that one of us would take it back at Michigan State," said Ginn, who did. "They were backed up and had to try to kick it long."

He said he likes kickoffs "because you can hit a hole and go" and punts "because you can go if you make a guy miss."

Maybe Ginn lacks the raw speed of some track stars who took a fling at football. But he has the big-game pedigree, the field vision, and the instincts of the great ones. It's not just his speed that kills.

To reach Bill Livingston:

[email protected], 216-999-4672

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[OSUBuckeye4Life]

Ginn's punt return piece on Gameday is about to come on.............

 

[jwinslow]

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Ohio State receiver Ted Ginn Jr. catches a pass against Indiana cornerback Tracy Porter (9) during the first half of a football game at Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio, Saturday, Oct. 21, 2006. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete)

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Ted Ginn Jr. prepares to throw a touchdown pass to Rory Nicol during Saturday's 44-3 win over Indiana. Ohio State is now 8-0 and still ranked No. 1. (Morgan Wonorski, CentralOhio)

 

[Bleed S & G]

rumors on the-ozone forum that TG2 broke his toe.. and now what appears to be surfacing is that he had a broken toe during the game and seemed ok..

also interesting to note that the broken toe is from the shotty turf

^ALL RUMORS AS FAR AS I KNOW.. HAVE SEEN NOTHING OFFICAL BUT JUST A HEADS UP

EDIT: A mod on bucknuts has confirmed this i guess? Supposedly broke his baby toe, will not miss any time..?

 

[Wingate1217]

rumors on the-ozone forum that TG2 broke his toe.. and now what appears to be surfacing is that he had a broken toe during the game and seemed ok..

also interesting to note that the broken toe is from the shotty turf

^ALL RUMORS AS FAR AS I KNOW.. HAVE SEEN NOTHING OFFICAL BUT JUST A HEADS UP

just heard on 1460-The Fan that Teddy left the locker room on Saturday night with a boot on his foot. They stress this was not confirmed.......

 

[jwinslow]

It is not considered to be a serious injury.

 

[Bleed S & G]

It is not considered to be a serious injury.

at least we got a couple weeks before scUM rolls into town.. serious or not serious

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Not really sure what you can do with a broken toe. One would like to think that we could rest him in the next 3 games if the need arises, so I don't think there is anything to worry about. As long as it is not turf toe which I do not believe that it is.

 

[osugrad21]

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Ginn deserves trip to New York
By JASON LLOYD, Morning Journal Writer
10/24/2006

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LET'S be clear: Ted Ginn is not going to win the Heisman. It's not his fault, he just happens to play on the No. 1 team in the country, where the quarterback is so far ahead of the field, it looks like a 100-meter race between Ginn and Kirk Barton.


The competition for the Heisman this year is really a race for No. 2. And since five players are still required to show up in New York, Ginn deserves to be on that list.

The rest of the preseason favorites are still mentioned in the conversation -- Steve Slaton, Calvin Johnson and Brady Quinn -- and all three have legitimate claims for being part of the five invited.

Slaton averages 150 yards a game for West Virginia, good for fourth in the country, and has a chance to rush for 2,000 yards this year while playing in a Big East Conference that is better than it is perceived.

Quinn struggled miserably against Michigan, but so has every other quarterback this year. He's thrown for more yards than Smith, while his touchdowns and interceptions are comparable.

Johnson is widely considered the best receiver in the country, and playing at Georgia Tech, he doesn't have a Smith or Quinn throwing to him.

Then there is Ginn, who inexplicably has been shut out of the conversation.

Johnson has caught 35 passes for 559 yards and eight touchdowns while playing in an ACC that is worse than the Big East and clearly the weakest of all the BCS conferences this season.

Ginn has caught 41 passes for 589 yards and seven touchdowns. Johnson doesn't return punts, while Ginn is two shy of the national record for punt return touchdowns in a career. He has only one this year, but a Ginn punt return is sort of like a Barry Bonds home run.

In his prime, Bonds received about three pitches a game to hit, yet he still managed to bash home runs. Teams have been kicking away from Ginn all year, then one of the only times he had a real chance at a return, he brought it back 60 yards for a touchdown against Michigan State.

Ginn's touchdown pass to Rory Nicol on Saturday, while it provided laughs and back slaps on the Ohio State sideline, quietly displayed another side of his versatility. He was already the best punt returner in the nation. He already can make any defensive back's eyes widen and throat tighten when he shifts his hips and turns upfield. He already poses fits for defensive coordinators who watch him line up in the backfield.

Now in less than three years, he has produced touchdowns passing, running, receiving, returning kicks and returning punts. That's something few other college players in history can equal.

Before the start of the season, Ohio State said it was promoting two Heisman candidates. And while the school has done its best -- holding a conference call every week with Smith and Ginn, giving both their own Web pages -- the national perception is that Ohio State now has one candidate, and he happens to be the clubhouse leader.

But Ginn has done nothing this year to dissuade the preseason perception he was a legitimate contender.

Part of the problem plaguing him is what the Heisman has become, and really, what it's always been. The Heisman Trophy is for the best quarterback or running back on one of the top teams in the country. Occasionally, it goes to the best receiver, but only if the rest of the field is lacking.

Desmond Howard is the last receiver to win the Heisman Trophy, and it happened 15 years ago (Charles Woodson, of course, is the exception, winning as a cornerback in 1997 over Peyton Manning).

Howard caught 61 passes and scored 19 touchdowns in 1991 for a staggering average of 3.2 touchdowns per catch. But part of what allowed Howard to win was the fact Casey Weldon, Ty Detmer, Steve Emtman and Shane Matthews were the other finalists. Aside from Detmer, whose odds were diminished because he won the year before, no one else on that list could be picked out of a lineup of grocery store baggers and ditch diggers.

Maybe another 100 yards receiving or another punt return touchdown against Minnesota this week will get voters talking again about Ginn. Maybe a historic performance against Michigan could catapult him as high as second, since no one else in the field seems to be a clear No. 2.

In the 70-year history of the award, only once have teammates finished first and second in the voting, in 1945, when Army's Doc Blanchard won it and Glenn Davis finished second.

Ginn isn't used to finishing second in any kind of race. But a runner-up finish in the Heisman, with his childhood friend winning it, would really be a double victory.