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Would you walk a star player in order to face the cancer kid?

tibor75

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I havne't seen this discussed here. This was the subject of the latest Rick Reilly column and has been getting play in the popular media as well.
To summarize, in a 9/10 year old PONY league, a team was down by 1 with a runner on 3rd and 2 outs in the last inning. The opposing coach made the decision to walk the opposing player's best hitter. So, the next batter came up, the worst hitter on the team who was also a cancer survivor. He struck out. Afterwards, the teams almost fought. People are crying for the poor cancer kid. Blah, blah, blah.

ONe question that hasn't been answered - why the fuck did the coach have the best player hit with the worst player on deck? This would be like a NL manager hitting the pitcher behind Barry Bonds. Fucking moron.

Maybe the cancer kid should have been in a different league if he diddn't want his feelings hurt.

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Is it good baseball strategy or a weak attempt to win?
Posted: Tuesday August 8, 2006 8:29AM; Updated: Friday August 11, 2006 2:52PM

This actually happened. Your job is to decide whether it should have.

In a nine- and 10-year-old PONY league championship game in Bountiful, Utah, the Yankees lead the Red Sox by one run. The Sox are up in the bottom of the last inning, two outs, a runner on third. At the plate is the Sox' best hitter, a kid named Jordan. On deck is the Sox' worst hitter, a kid named Romney. He's a scrawny cancer survivor who has to take human growth hormone and has a shunt in his brain.

So, you're the coach: Do you intentionally walk the star hitter so you can face the kid who can barely swing?

Wait! Before you answer.... This is a league where everybody gets to bat, there's a four-runs-per-inning max, and no stealing until the ball crosses the plate. On the other hand, the stands are packed and it is the title game.

So ... do you pitch to the star or do you lay it all on the kid who's been through hell already?

Yanks coach Bob Farley decided to walk the star.

Parents booed. The umpire, Mike Wright, thought to himself, Low-ball move. In the stands, Romney's eight-year-old sister cried. "They're picking on Romney!" she said. Romney struck out. The Yanks celebrated. The Sox moaned. The two coaching staffs nearly brawled.

And Romney? He sobbed himself to sleep that night. (Boo fucking hoo. :tibor:)

"It made me sick," says Romney's dad, Marlo Oaks. "It's going after the weakest chick in the flock."

Farley and his assistant coach, Shaun Farr, who recommended the walk, say they didn't know Romney was a cancer survivor. "And even if I had," insists Farr, "I'd have done the same thing. It's just good baseball strategy."

Romney's mom, Elaine, thinks Farr knew. "Romney's cancer was in the paper when he met with President Bush," she says. That was thanks to the Make-A-Wish people. "And [Farr] coached Romney in basketball. I tell all his coaches about his condition."

She has to. Because of his radiation treatments, Romney's body may not produce enough of a stress-responding hormone if he is seriously injured, so he has to quickly get a cortisone shot or it could be life-threatening. That's why he wears a helmet even in centerfield. Farr didn't notice?

The sports editor for the local Davis Clipper, Ben De Voe, ripped the Yankees' decision. "Hopefully these coaches enjoy the trophy on their mantle," De Voe wrote, "right next to their dunce caps."

Well, that turned Bountiful into Rancorful. The town was split -- with some people calling for De Voe's firing and describing Farr and Farley as "great men," while others called the coaches "pathetic human beings." They "should be tarred and feathered," one man wrote to De Voe. Blogs and letters pages howled. A state house candidate called it "shameful."

What the Yankees' coaches did was within the rules. But is it right to put winning over compassion? For that matter, does a kid who yearns to be treated like everybody else want compassion?

"What about the boy who is dyslexic -- should he get special treatment?" Blaine and Kris Smith wrote to the Clipper. "The boy who wears glasses -- should he never be struck out? ... NO! They should all play by the rules of the game."

The Yankees' coaches insisted that the Sox coach would've done the same thing. "Not only wouldn't I have," says Sox coach Keith Gulbransen, "I didn't. When their best hitter came up, I pitched to him. I especially wouldn't have done it to Romney."

Farr thinks the Sox coach is a hypocrite. He points out that all coaches put their worst fielder in rightfield and try to steal on the weakest catchers. "Isn't that strategy?" he asks. "Isn't that trying to win? Do we let the kid feel like he's a winner by having the whole league play easy on him? This isn't the Special Olympics. He's not retarded."

Me? I think what the Yanks did stinks. Strategy is fine against major leaguers, but not against a little kid with a tube in his head. Just good baseball strategy? This isn't the pros. This is: Everybody bats, one-hour games. That means it's about fun. Period.

What the Yankees' coaches did was make it about them, not the kids. It became their medal to pin on their pecs and show off at their barbecues. And if a fragile kid got stomped on the way, well, that's baseball. We see it all over the country -- the overcaffeinated coach who watches too much SportsCenter and needs to win far more than the kids, who will forget about it two Dove bars later.

By the way, the next morning, Romney woke up and decided to do something about what happened to him.

"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
 
If the cancer kid is playing in a normal league, he should be treated like a normal player, which means the common sense rules of baseball apply. If it were a Challenger League game-kids in walkers, Downe Syndrome,etc.-that would be different. Lance Armstrong and Mario Lemieux survived cancer, and their competitors didn't treat them any differently......btw, I've always thought Reilly was a douche......
 
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Coming from a cancer survior, I can tell you that if I signed up thinking I had the ability to compete in such situations then I would take full blame for striking out.

If he had hit the ball and scored it would have been the biggest story out of Utah, but that's the consequence of a game. It was his turn, he struck out, game over.

Plus, the Yanks beat the Sox :wink:
 
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First off, tibs makes a valid point in the lineup about not protecting his best hitter with a solid batter behind him in the lineup. Its just not smart baseball.

After that, any 9 year old kid, cancer survivor or not, is going cry after striking out with the title on the line. Hell, grown men do it.

The fact that they are playing the "cancer survivor card" is somewhat deplorable. What is the message here? Are they saying:

A. my son should be treated differently because of his cancer
B. my son should be treated differently because he's not as good
C. my son should be treated differently only when it favors us.

If the kid can "barely swing the bat" as the article says, why is he playing baseball? Is it to prove he isn't different? That he can hang with other kids who are healthier?

The manager/coach just taught everyone there a life lone lesson. LIFE AINT EASY. And every kid there learned that to win, aim for the weakest link.
 
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I agree scooter.

In fact upon reading the article, you learn 2 things about the kid in relation to this event:
He cried the night after
Then, he resolved to do better.

Which is what ANY kid should do in this situation. In other words, the kid is handling it well, it's the adults who are being fuckheads. Which is usually how little league sports works. :(
 
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I agree scooter.

Hell_Frozen_Over.jpg
 
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It sounds like the kid is a whole lot tougher than his parents or his coach. It's a flippin' Pony league game. The whole town shouldn't be up in arms about it. Reilly is always looking for some cause to get self-righteous about.
 
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Sounds like sound strategy to me. Give your team a chance to line up deep because a play can now be made at 1st or 2nd. The Red Sox coach always had the option to pinch hit for the kid. We don't know the circumstances why the kid was batting behind the star. Perhaps there was an injury and he replaced that kid, or the coach doesn't know sound baseball strategy. Question: If you were the kid would you rather go down swinging or be given an intentional pass (so as not to embarrass the kid) to load the bases? Me give the chance to compete like a normal kid.....
 
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I heard Reilly on the radio with Dan Patrick on Thursday, and the lineup question was brought up; why was the weakest hitter on the team following the best? Reilly pointed out that it was a non-competitive, everyone plays league, about a step up from t-ball. So, all the managers in the league alternate their lineups because they have to get 13 or 14 kids ABs, so they space the good hitters out so they're not carrying dead weight for four innings after the fifth batter.

The cancer kid is taking it well. tib's is right in that it's the adults that are throwing a fit. Reilly did mention on the Dan Patrick show that Lance Armstrong had called him wanting the cancer kids phone number.
 
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I heard Reilly on the radio with Dan Patrick on Thursday, and the lineup question was brought up; why was the weakest hitter on the team following the best? Reilly pointed out that it was a non-competitive, everyone plays league, about a step up from t-ball. So, all the managers in the league alternate their lineups because they have to get 13 or 14 kids ABs, so they space the good hitters out so they're not carrying dead weight for four innings after the fifth batter.

The cancer kid is taking it well. tib's is right in that it's the adults that are throwing a fit. Reilly did mention on the Dan Patrick show that Lance Armstrong had called him wanting the cancer kids phone number.
Even in softball, a U10 league is very competitive. I understand the concept that in an intramural league, everyone has to have sufficient playing time. I coach softball and I get that. But if you have a league with a playoffs and championship, lineups matter
 
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