• New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.

World's Greatest "

Jump to latest Follow Reply
plum diamonds buckeye planet
Sort by date Sort by votes
They should have the decency to post the t-shirt his kid was wearing

scarletandgrey;1234143; said:
World wildlife foundation?
Click to expand...

Nuh-Tee

dadcondomblkxsmlz0.jpg
 
Upvote 0
I have a question for the attorneys in the room, Gator and whoever else. I've asked this question of other attorneys and police officers and the explanations never made sense to me.

How does one get convicted based on intent, under false pretenses? That is, he "thought he was soliciting sex from a 14 year old girl", but the reality is he was talking to a 35 year old cop named Bob? Seems like a conviction based on that law could be challenged in court under the guise of he didn't solicit a minor at all, he only thought he was doing so. I guess prostitution laws work the same way with undercover cops, but to me this is different because we're prosecuting this guy based on soliciting a "minor" when the fact is the person on the other end wasn't a minor, but simply pretending to be one.

I know a little about contract law and labor law by virtue of my work but this type of law is out of my element. How does this type of charge stand?

(No, I'm not asking for personal reasons, and yes, I know at least one of you smartasses was thinking it) :wink:
 
Upvote 0
Jake;1234226; said:
I have a question for the attorneys in the room, Gator and whoever else. I've asked this question of other attorneys and police officers and the explanations never made sense to me.

How does one get convicted based on intent, under false pretenses? That is, he "thought he was soliciting sex from a 14 year old girl", but the reality is he was talking to a 35 year old cop named Bob? Seems like a conviction based on that law could be challenged in court under the guise of he didn't solicit a minor at all, he only thought he was doing so. I guess prostitution laws work the same way with undercover cops, but to me this is different because we're prosecuting this guy based on soliciting a "minor" when the fact is the person on the other end wasn't a minor, but simply pretending to be one.

I know a little about contract law and labor law by virtue of my work but this type of law is out of my element. How does this type of charge stand?

(No, I'm not asking for personal reasons, and yes, I know at least one of you smartasses was thinking it) :wink:
Click to expand...

If you think I am a hit man and you ask me to kill your wife to get the insurance money, the fact that I am not a hit man, just a guy who looks like the one you were to meet who happened to be at the same coffee shop, the fact I was not a real hit man in no way would mitigate the fact that you were planning to kill your wife and that you took affirmative steps in furtherance of that goal.

Intent plus action taken to achieve that intended goal is enough.
 
Upvote 0
Gatorubet;1234601; said:
If you think I am a hit man and you ask me to kill your wife to get the insurance money, the fact that I am not a hit man, just a guy who looks like the one you were to meet who happened to be at the same coffee shop, the fact I was not a real hit man in no way would mitigate the fact that you were planning to kill your wife and that you took affirmative steps in furtherance of that goal.

Intent plus action taken to achieve that intended goal is enough.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the reply. :)
That seems consistent with the solicitation of prostitution from an under cover cop - you intended to purchase illicit sex with an adult, so it's a crime under the law.

I'm still questioning the "minor" aspect of this type of charge, though, just because the perp was in fact conversing with an adult. There was no minor involved at all. It just seems different to me than a cop posing as a hit man or hooker, but I guess that's why I'm not an attorney...that, and the lack of a law degree. :wink2:
 
Upvote 0
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top